This pair has been in a semi open back 2-12 cab. Normally use two 2-12’s for gigs. Other cab has the WGS Classic Lead copies..With the Wizard head 2 is as loud as I get and they are ok. Hard to find speakers that hold up in a 2-12. Wonder how the ET90’s would be, almost went with those. Not a big fan of those CL copies. Strange voicing.
Have you tried them at decent stage volume?
They sound really good with a Marshall type circuit; my Mesas like them too but for me they go great with a brighter Marshall.
I agree. I hated the recent made ‘65’s I had. Really dark and muffled sounding. Haven’t tried the vintage ‘65’s, but had ‘80’s vented T75’s, which I’ve been told sound similar, just a bit brighter (1777 cones on them I believe it was) and those were also a bit dark sounding. They sounded nice to me, even used successfully in one of friend’s re-amps, but paled vs the pre-rola GB’s I got later on (no surprise I suppose) in terms of actual quality of tone. I also use those speakers (GB & V30’s) for a good majority these days
Did you have a 412 with the 65s? I’ve had a couple combos with them, they aren’t the best in an open back scenario. But in a 412 with some volume they do come alive. And while similar to the vented 75s the 65s are easily better sounding to me anyway. Sold off my T75s.
Yes they were in my Kerry Wright 412 (stock speakers in it I believe), which is a closed back, rear loaded 412, I believe somewhat Marshall influenced cab. I played it plenty loud and still too dark and just wasn’t great. Almost all the countless swaps I’ve done since in that cab sounded much brighter
They do sound like a higher powered GB; when pushed anyway. Mine are the Marshall labeled 3120s and when I play my 72 loud, it’s through the 72 Pulsonic cab and the 79 with 65s.
Cool if I can find a 3210 at a good price I’ll give it a shot and compare isolated vs both my 25 & 20 pre-rola. Very exposed differences in those types of comparisons. The vented 75’s I had imo a GB-ish voicing, just not as good tone vs the pre-rola’s, but wasn’t as far behind imo vs the ‘70’s Creambacks 25’s I used to have when compared
If you can find them, they made some 65s with aluminum dust caps like JBLs, and also with these weird ‘wizzer’ cones. I think they are talked about on the Bygone Tones site. Bizarre
G12-65 are cursed for me. I bought that 'wizzer' cones at first attemp to reach them. I think its called 'twin cone'. Oh god, sold them almost for free. Second pair was some re-cones with no rubbing cones, sounded dull. 3rd trial was succesful, all original 4x12 from mid 80's. Sounded good but it was not quite a match with Friedman Smallbox I had at time. I heard few of them thru the years. I use G12-65 for home 1x12, one of the best low volume speaker. Heritage version is great because of consistency, sound great too, not so dull, not so bright as some revisions mentioned before.
I’ve had 2 JCM 800 cabs with the G12 80s and what I remember is they are a bit more neutral sounding compared to a 65 cab. Deeper lows and good mids, highs but less mids than a 65. They weren’t that far off though. Lows were tighter too.
I had two WGS ET65's loaded into a 4x12 with two Scumback M65 Pulsonic clone greenbacks and the WGS mixed well with the Scumbacks. I didn't t hate the WGS by any means at all they were very complimentary of one another.
I have never heard a full 4x12 cabinet with the Heritage G1265 but the 8 ohm one in my 1x2 combo amp screams nice mids and a somewhat rolled off top end but almost perfect for any Marshall style amp IMHO and possibly an SLO where you want a greenback vibe but with power handling capability I don't think one can go wrong with the Heritage G1265.