Clean and Dirty in one module??

[Fallout Labs]

is it possible?

i love the twin side of my t/d, but rarely switch to the deluxe side. i have the erect which is awesome for the modern tone (sooo glad I didn't sell my mod50)

*** added *** i don't want a t/erect.. i'm thinking medium gain on the deluxe side.

 

[aeroic]

is it possible?

i love the twin side of my t/d, but rarely switch to the deluxe side. i have the erect which is awesome for the modern tone (sooo glad I didn't sell my mod50)

The only one that really does that is the BMAN. I've had the TD, the DLX, and the BMAN. Throw a Jan Philips 5751 in V1 of the BMAN, and you'll get a higher headroom clean tone, but still get that mid-gain Plexiish vibe on ChB.

You can't do a T on ChA and an Erect on ChB though. Not enough room on the circuit board, since ChA and ChB share some of the circuit.

Eric

 

[Fallout Labs]

You can't do a T on ChA and an Erect on ChB though. Not enough room on the circuit board, since ChA and ChB share some of the circuit.

Eric

i'm not looking for that much gain.. i want to keep the erect the way it is.

 

[guitarslinger]

is it possible?

i love the twin side of my t/d, but rarely switch to the deluxe side. i have the erect which is awesome for the modern tone (sooo glad I didn't sell my mod50)

The only one that really does that is the BMAN.
Eric

The SL and VX can do pretty damn high gain on CH B, (especially the VX)

 

[aeroic]

is it possible?

i love the twin side of my t/d, but rarely switch to the deluxe side. i have the erect which is awesome for the modern tone (sooo glad I didn't sell my mod50)

The only one that really does that is the BMAN.
Eric

The SL and VX can do pretty damn high gain on CH B, (especially the VX)

Agreed on the VX for sure. Especially with a JP 5751 in V1, ChA's clean tone is really good. The SL, if you use your guitar's volume it gets pretty clean, but not BMAN or T/D clean though.

Eric

 

[guitarslinger]

The SL, if you use your guitar's volume it gets pretty clean, but not BMAN or T/D clean though.

Eric

Gotta disagree.

SL chA sounds as loud and clean as the VX chA with the gain and master set similarly, to my ears at least. I didn't even think the Bman was that much cleaner than the SL or VX.

Of course, the T/D is cleaner than everything.

 

[rockridge98]

is it possible?

i love the twin side of my t/d, but rarely switch to the deluxe side. i have the erect which is awesome for the modern tone (sooo glad I didn't sell my mod50)

+1 for BMAN. You can easily adjust it for clean on A and quite dirty on B.
As long as I am not looking for a super modern tone I could probably do a whole set with a BMAN.
SL is not quite as good for on the clean side, but as other people have suggested, you
could probably do it with the right choice of preamp tubes.

 

[Anonymous]

BMAN is my workhorse. Hands down the benchmark for my system. The VX is truly impressive. Not all that clean but a great 'tweener module.

 

[Zaphod B]

Can you get a decent pushed sound from the Deluxe side of the T/D?

 

[Fallout Labs]

Can you get a decent pushed sound from the Deluxe side of the T/D?

my problem is I don't dig the tone on the deluxe side at all.. i sent jeff a msg about making it into a t/v module awhile back before namm, guess it got lost in the namm bucket..

 

[RockStarNick]

The reason this is not possible is because each module, even though it's 2 channels, is basically 2 gain/tone variations on the same circuit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there's not 2 entirely different circuit boards in there...

For the most part, Egnater makes 2 types of circuit boards in the modules: an american tube one, and a brit tube one. Tonestack before gain, and gain before tonestack, respectively.

The COD and T/D share the same circuit board, where the tonestack comes before the gain stage. Everything else uses a circuit where the tonestack comes AFTER the first gain stage. Including the Erect.

In order to have something like a T/Erect, it would have to be a total custom job with 2 seperate circuit boards altogether. And probably couldn't share tubes, which means it couldn't fit into a mod50 slot...

Correct me if I'm wrong though.

 

[Zaphod B]

Can you get a decent pushed sound from the Deluxe side of the T/D?

my problem is I don't dig the tone on the deluxe side at all.. i sent jeff a msg about making it into a t/v module awhile back before namm, guess it got lost in the namm bucket..

What is it that you don't like about the Deluxe side?

 

[Fallout Labs]

Can you get a decent pushed sound from the Deluxe side of the T/D?

my problem is I don't dig the tone on the deluxe side at all.. i sent jeff a msg about making it into a t/v module awhile back before namm, guess it got lost in the namm bucket..

What is it that you don't like about the Deluxe side?

i don't dig the tone. the way i love the twin side the deluxe sid has too much bass..

 

[muudrock]

+1 on the VX, SL and BMAN. All three are good at the clean/dirty in one module. Truth be told, I haven't even put the T/D in the head for a few months. I go between the VX and SL for the clean on CH A and dirty on CH B. I just dig the tones. The SL is a very good clean sound, at least in my rig. Gain set @ 9:00 with JP 5751 in the V1 and TS 7a in V2. Move over to CH B with gain @ 2-3:00 and a good AC or BB pedal and I'm good to go for alot of stuff.
I have been preferring the VX lately though. CHA clean with mahogany set neck guitar and CHB w/ the AC booster is pure magic.

 

[EWSEthan]

I agree that BMan is the best for what you are describing. To be honest, I could not get the Vx or SL to be clean enough on channel A. They just dont have enough headroom for me. I dont really consider those "clean" modules.

 

[aeroic]

I agree that BMan is the best for what you are describing. To be honest, I could not get the Vx or SL to be clean enough on channel A. They just dont have enough headroom for me. I dont really consider those "clean" modules.

But have you tried then with a JP 5751!!!!

Eric

 

[EWSEthan]

Somehow I KNEW you were going to come back with that!!! No.

 

[aeroic]

Somehow I KNEW you were going to come back with that!!! No.

I just couldn't resist!

Really does make the module more usable for clean...C'mon muudrock...let's hit Matt w/ the one-two punch

 

[rockridge98]

i don't dig the tone. the way i love the twin side the deluxe sid has too much bass..

A number of people have had this kind of comment about the T/D - when the
bass is right on the T side, the D side is too flubby. I remember a year ago or so,
Jeff was saying that they were working on a rev of the T/D to address it.

Jeff, did this rev ever happen, and if so, can older T/Ds be upgraded.
Thanks!

 

[muudrock]

Somehow I KNEW you were going to come back with that!!! No.

I just couldn't resist!

Really does make the module more usable for clean...C'mon muudrock...let's hit Matt w/ the one-two punch

I've got your back Eric! It is true. The 5751 is the ticket.

Matt, I've never had trouble getting channel A on either the VX or SL to be my clean channel. Might be pickups. I don't generally run the high output pickups these days.