Curious about Diezel.....

[Ventura]

I actually LIKED the Music shmidt video!!

Raw tones....
got me a feel for what the amp was about.

Ya man, I did too - but it doesn't capture the 3D as much as other recordings. Then again, nothing can capture what's happening in the room when you've got a VH4 lit up

 

[Mailman1971]

I actually LIKED the Music shmidt video!!

Raw tones....
got me a feel for what the amp was about.

Ya man, I did too - but it doesn't capture the 3D as much as other recordings. Then again, nothing can capture what's happening in the room when you've got a VH4 lit up

Amen Brutha!! To me? The perfect amp...just kills in all aspects.
Got some money stashed away for another one...

 

[Kruegmeister]

My Original Music is Modern Rock.
The Covers we Play are anything from Three Days Grace, Three Doors Down, Aerosmith, Theory of a Deadman, ZZ Top, etc....
The D-Moll that I use works well in this Genre. Running into a Diezel 4x12 Front Load Cabinet with Celestion V30s and G12K100s in an X-Pattern.
I find the Clean Channel to be a Fender style tone. Gain about 1/2 way and a Tube Screamer gives me Bluesy Licks. Perfect David Gilmour Tone as well.
Channel 2 is Great for Heavy Riffing and Responds to the Volume Pot Well. Roll the Pot back and it will get Classic Rock on ya.
Channel 3 can be used for Heavy Riffing or Soloing.
The Mid Cut and Multiple Master Volumes give 12 Possible Scenarios, I have my Midi Pedal setup with 10
1 Ch1 Clean, 2 Ch3 Master2 MidCut , 3 Ch3 Master2, 4 Ch2, 5 Ch2
6 Ch1 Clean MidCut, 7 Ch2 Master2 MidCut, 8 Ch2 Master2, 9 Ch3 MidCut, 10 Ch3
1 and 6 are 2 Clean Tones that can go Classic Rock or Blues with Combinations of Tube Screamer and an Xotic EP Boost Pedal that I use out front.
2 and 7 are Solo Tones with Master 2 and Midcut Engaged. 2 is Ch3, 7 is Ch2
3 and 8 are Solo Tones with Master 2 and No Midcut. 3 is Ch3, 8 is Ch2
4 and 9 are Rhythm Tones running Master 1 and Midcut. 4 is Ch2 and 9 is Ch3
5 and 10 are Rhythm Tones Running Master 1 no Midcut. 5 is Ch2 and 9 is Ch3

This Setup is super Flexible using only a Wah, TubeScreamer, Xotic EP Boost before the Amp and a MXR Carbon Copy in the Serial FX Loop.
I was coming from and AxeFX2 then a EVH 5150 III 50w into the Same Cab I have now.

 

[jcm800x4]

I'm looking at the Einstein. It seems to fit more of what I do. So somewhere around $2k would be a decent price?

 

[JimmyBlind]

I'm looking at the Einstein. It seems to fit more of what I do. So somewhere around $2k would be a decent price?

I've seen Einsteins on ebay over here for £900 & struggling to make a sale.

The Einstein sounds great, but I believe there's a reason why it was discontinued. For me, it was the Einsteins functionality. The 3 best modes of the amp are limited to one channel & one EQ & were non-switchable out the box. The lead channel, for me, was the least versatile mode of the amp. Diezel can mod the amp, which is great, but it'd probably have to go to Germany.

Although the D-moll is voiced a little differently to the Einstein (it's darker), I'd dig a little deeper & save up for one of those. The price point for the D-Moll is great for an amp of that quality & functionality. Diezel have ironed out pretty much everything that I would criticize about the Einstein.

 

[Ventura]

^^^^^^ Careful.

The Einy's a great, great amp in its own right.

The MIDI and footswitching was something that was lacking, but sonically, the Einy's delivered to many for many.

Peace,
Mo

 

[jcm800x4]

^^^^^^ Careful.

The Einy's a great, great amp in its own right.

The MIDI and footswitching was something that was lacking, but sonically, the Einy's delivered to many for many.

Peace,
Mo

The midi capabilities mean nothing to me. I've performed hundreds of gigs for many many years with a single channel Marshall, a 4x12, a les Paul and a couple of pedals. If it cleans up well with the guitar volume, its reliable and the tone is sweet.....that's ll that matters.

 

[Ventura]

^^^^^^ Careful.

The Einy's a great, great amp in its own right.

The MIDI and footswitching was something that was lacking, but sonically, the Einy's delivered to many for many.

Peace,
Mo

The midi capabilities mean nothing to me. I've performed hundreds of gigs for many many years with a single channel Marshall, a 4x12, a les Paul and a couple of pedals. If it cleans up well with the guitar volume, its reliable and the tone is sweet.....that's ll that matters.

You'' be happy with the Einy

 

[ProgFree]

^^^^^^ Careful.

The Einy's a great, great amp in its own right.

The MIDI and footswitching was something that was lacking, but sonically, the Einy's delivered to many for many.

Peace,
Mo

The midi capabilities mean nothing to me. I've performed hundreds of gigs for many many years with a single channel Marshall, a 4x12, a les Paul and a couple of pedals. If it cleans up well with the guitar volume, its reliable and the tone is sweet.....that's ll that matters.

You'' be happy with the Einy

+1

The Einstein is the Diezel for you.

 

[Faxanadu]

Just to share with you, my single channel mode on D-moll is Ch2:

- Cleans: Neck pick-up coil-splited with volume down, Master volume 2 (higher volume), mid-cut off.
- Crunch: Bridge pick-up coil-splited with volume at the middle, Master volume 2, mid-cut off.
- Mega: Bridge pick-up full volume, Master volume 1, mid-cut on.
- Lead: Both pick-ups full volume, Master volume 1, mid-cut off.

Seems hard to believe I know, but it's really feasible.
I have to find a way to make a good vid soon...

 

[Ventura]

Sorry...I had to upload this

 

[21_guitars]

I really don't understand this thread, if you want a Marshall tone buy a Marshall amp. All of the Diezel amps have there own thing going on. I am hoping to get one soon, but not expecting Marshall tones. There are a bunch of clips on utube to give you an idea.

Good luck!

 

[jcm800x4]

I really don't understand this thread, if you want a Marshall tone buy a Marshall amp. All of the Diezel amps have there own thing going on. I am hoping to get one soon, but not expecting Marshall tones. There are a bunch of clips on utube to give you an idea.

Good luck!

Thanks for your input. Clips sound like clips. They all sound the same to me. I simply ask if these things will do more than heavy or death metal because that seems to be the reputation. I'm looking for something different but still in the same vein as what I know. So I asked a few questions. And, for the most part, got some good answers. Not so sure yours helpd much.

 

[jcm800x4]

Just to share with you, my single channel mode on D-moll is Ch2:

- Cleans: Neck pick-up coil-splited with volume down, Master volume 2 (higher volume), mid-cut off.
- Crunch: Bridge pick-up coil-splited with volume at the middle, Master volume 2, mid-cut off.
- Mega: Bridge pick-up full volume, Master volume 1, mid-cut on.
- Lead: Both pick-ups full volume, Master volume 1, mid-cut off.

Seems hard to believe I know, but it's really feasible.
I have to find a way to make a good vid soon...

Thanks man. This is what I'm looking for. Someone who uses one these amps like I would.

 

[Faxanadu]

You're welcome dude, my pleasure.

Just want to add that a part of using ch2 as a single channel amp, you can add ch1 and ch3 to your sound, and you get more sound possibilities than you need.
I use the FS7-HE footswitch and it is really easy to use.
Versatility of D-moll, versatility of your guitar, and variations in your playing style, you get endless diversity...

Concerning Marshall sound, this was the standard of the last century in terms of guitar sound, I can understand why people compare everything to it, it is normal IMHO.
D-moll can get very close to marshall sound, but it can do so much more, that you forget about what you were looking for, and discover a new world of sound.

To me, Diezel amps and customer service seem to be the new standard of guitar sound in the 21st century. My opinion as a very young Diezel user.
Maybe in 30 years my kids will compare every new amp brand to their Daddy's Diezel amp, who knows.

 

[jcm800x4]

You're welcome dude, my pleasure.

Just want to add that a part of using ch2 as a single channel amp, you can add ch1 and ch3 to your sound, and you get more sound possibilities than you need.
I use the FS7-HE footswitch and it is really easy to use.
Versatility of D-moll, versatility of your guitar, and variations in your playing style, you get endless diversity...

Concerning Marshall sound, this was the standard of the last century in terms of guitar sound, I can understand why people compare everything to it, it is normal IMHO.
D-moll can get very close to marshall sound, but it can do so much more, that you forget about what you were looking for, and discover a new world of sound.

To me, Diezel amps and customer service seem to be the new standard of guitar sound in the 21st century. My opinion as a very young Diezel user.
Maybe in 30 years my kids will compare every new amp brand to their Daddy's Diezel amp, who knows.

I hear ya! I guess when I say Marshall......it's not just the tone really.....it's the way the amp responds to guitar volume and my fingers.....how hard or soft I play. A lot, in fact most over the top gain amps have no feeling to me. Yes, the compressed tones are easy to play but they feel sterile and non expressive if that makes sense. I came over hear because , like most, I'm always chasing something. Not sure what it is really but I'm after IT. I've heard good things about Diezel but wanted to get some opinions before I dropped a ton of cash. And really, there's very few if any in stores to check out. I've owned a BE100, SLO, 101B, all the 5150's, Fargen, Landry, Mesa modded this and modded that etc. Im currently using a wizard mc50 that I REALLY dig but I can feel the itch for something else yet again! thanks for the input. I'm starting a search for an Einstein . Hope the word Marshall didn't get too many panties waded up.

 

[kahawe]

I really don't understand this thread, if you want a Marshall tone buy a Marshall amp. All of the Diezel amps have there own thing going on

I just HAD to chime in... before we all act like someone shit in our shoes when the "M" word was used, let's not forget both Bogner and Diezel started out modding Ms and eventually built their own amps and while they got their own thing going on, you can never fully deny your "heritage" and if the musical north and south pole are M and F, then the D is clearly closer to one of them.

 

[Ventura]

I really don't understand this thread, if you want a Marshall tone buy a Marshall amp. All of the Diezel amps have there own thing going on

I just HAD to chime in... before we all act like someone shit in our shoes when the "M" word was used, let's not forget both Bogner and Diezel started out modding Ms and eventually built their own amps and while they got their own thing going on, you can never fully deny your "heritage" and if the musical north and south pole are M and F, then the D is clearly closer to one of them.

Truth. But outside of Soldano, there really only is an F and M ain't there??

Diezel sounds like Diezel, thank fkn goodness

Unc'Mo

 

[kahawe]

I guess the F and M just work as opposite "poles" because the majority of people get either, maybe both, but it's quite frustratingly rare to see anyone venture out of the FenderMarshallGibson bubble... too tried and true and omni-present.
Even better that you got some shops doing their own thing, like Diezel!! o7