Diezel d-moll shipping yet ?

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I should really add: I am starting to love this amp already! Probably was too sleep-deprived yesterday... today I switched it on, turned it up a little more and BAM I "clicked" with it! Nailbombs, Aftermaths and 59/09 all sounded great! Damn it is moving a lot of lows if you let it.
Wtf is wrong with you people!!?
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Sorry man, not trying to GAS-tease but I really can't record here right now... and I am too scared the gear police will instantly confiscate the amp upon seeing/hearing my fail! :D
 
kahawe":1hnlhxk1 said:
I should really add: I am starting to love this amp already! Probably was too sleep-deprived yesterday... today I switched it on, turned it up a little more and BAM I "clicked" with it! Nailbombs, Aftermaths and 59/09 all sounded great! Damn it is moving a lot of lows if you let it.
Wtf is wrong with you people!!?
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Sorry man, not trying to GAS-tease but I really can't record here right now... and I am too scared the gear police will instantly confiscate the amp upon seeing/hearing my fail! :D
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Thanks for informing us, hope to hear more from you as you fully get connected wit the d-moll :rock:
 
kahawe":15jccjmi said:
I could only play at bedroom levels yesterday, I will try taking it to my practice space asap.

First impressions: looks and feels great and damn HEAVY, peeking through the grille I see the same HUGE transformers the other Diezels have and all the other details are the same too. So just like the Einstein, from looking at it alone you can tell this is not a cheap amp but very solid quality and I am really wondering even more how they do it at that price when compared to the other amps...? Seriously, how? Anyone?

Now, how does it sound! For whatever a written description is worth here especially after such a short time, you should know my ears are pointing to the vh4 as my "north"; ran both through a bogner 2x12 with v30s. Cleans are more lively/chime-y/"glassy" so I guess much closer to Schmidt/Hagen, no icepicks but very punchy and very transparent; the mid cut adds a nice touch too! Overall cleans are great and different from the vh4, much less "hifi" (what some people dis-like as "sterile"). Ch2 goes from low gain to evil in-your-face-chugga and is quite aggressive there; also fast and punchy and cleans up well. I expect you can use this as a one-channel-silver-bullet! Ch3 felt very mid-focused, tons of gain - I will have to experiment with that channel more, not enough time.

Most importantly first impression verdict: coming from the vh4, this is not a "lunchbox-vh4" but quite a different and new beast, Diezel through and through and feels more modern in tone. Hagen/Herb? I would say overall it feels brighter with more "sizzle" on top, the overall character is definitely audible in the Messe videos on youtube! Very honest and open, different playing-feel than vh4 and the eq on the dmoll is very sensitive, so yea this is definitely a versatile amp and you can do a lot with the eq, your guitar's tone and volume and your fingers/picks. Each channel on the vh4 makes you pretty much instantly feel at-home and lazy to touch anything when playing alone with all knobs around noon, on the dmoll you somehow WANT to tweak and experiment and turn knobs and see what happens! Or maybe I have gotten too lazy going through 1-2-3-4 and was looking for the equivalent to "2" :lol: :LOL:

I will definitely have to try it at regular playing volumes though because at bedroom-levels the brighter character feels "thinner" compared to the vh4 at the same level, and therefore this is not not a good comparison at all, so more later.
Overall the vh4 feels like more evil and growl (lower-mids?) and dmoll is more aggressive, has comparatively more sizzle in your face. I guess that's where the "modern" comes from, fat lows and molten sizzle to cut through anything! :rock:
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Thanks for the review. Need the D-Moll less high end ? ..... that´s not a big deal.
But think about, you are playing through V30´s at low level.

Best,
Peter
 
No, for me it really is great the way it is and I am looking forward to finally turning it up properly! :rock: I think the overall "brighter" character is going to cut especially well in a band context and it gives the dmoll a great character and different from the vh4.
All good here and thanks so much to you and Peter, keep rocking our world! :)
 
Raf_666":21dxubed said:
btw have you played an einstein before ?
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Hey Raf! I just played the dog very shortly, I think if you like the dog you will also like the dmoll - maybe even more since it has those nicer cleans and on the other hand also more modern high-gain too. Definitely play one!
 
kahawe":3nzuc3ie said:
OK, so I played it both at home and at practice space levels! Damn this thing is LOUD!!!

First impressions: looks and feels great and damn HEAVY, peeking through the grille I see the same HUGE transformers the other Diezels have and all the other details are the same too. (Oh yea, no tuner out :P) So just from looking at it alone you can tell this is definitely not a cheap amp but very, very solid quality and I am really wondering even more how they do it at that price when compared to their other amps...? Seriously, how? Anyone?

Now, how does it sound! For whatever a written description is worth here especially after such a short time, you should know my ears are pointing to the vh4 as my "north"; ran both through a bogner 2x12 with v30s. (don't tell papa... ;))

Ch1: Cleans are more lively/chime-y/"glassy" so I guess much closer to Schmidt/Hagen, no icepicks but very punchy and very transparent with great overtones when you turn the gain up a little, you know just a bit of "glass" and subtle "purr"; the mid cut adds a nice touch here too! It really has a LOT of attack and punch and "clack" when you hit the strings!
Overall cleans are really great, very beautiful and different from the vh4, much less "hifi" and more like what most people would probably see as beautiful (if not "romantic") cleans!

Then you turn the gain up more and you get the absolutely nicest low-gain/overdrive sound, keeps the attack-punch with much more "purrrrr" just at the right frequencies! This is seriously good and of course you can go right back to clean with your guitar volume, I think I just made my low-gain overdrive pedals obsolete.


Ch2 is very Diezel-mega-crunch-y with a unique, new character. Goes from low gain to evil in-your-face-chugga and is quite aggressive there but with lots of "meat", a very healthy tone and palm-mutes just make the ground shake... as much lows as you could ever want or need; also fast and punchy and cleans up really well - as in summoning-the-demons-from-hell back to some crunch and overdrive and pretty much down to clean-ish Jazz if your guitar and pickups allow for that. I expect you can use this as your one-channel-silver-bullet!
You know how some amps get kinda ugly thin and fizzy when you turn your guitar volume down far enough? Not the dmoll! You really get good tones across the whole range of your guitar volume pot!!! Time to seriously think about investing in good pots with treble-bleed-caps!


Ch3 is thicker/meatier, much more mid-focused; you instantly hear this when switching from 2 to 3. I think this really makes sense since 2 and 3 share an EQ and the more mids will help you stand out more for solos for example, so yea, Ch3 is a lead channel but you can also play thick riffs and chords. Engaging the midcut here is also great and makes for an interesting option.


Most importantly first impression verdict: coming from the vh4, this is not a "lunchbox-vh4" but quite a different and new beast, Diezel through and through and feels more modern in tone but it also offers fantastic, gorgeous cleans and overdrive. Like Schmidt/Hagen cleans and "purrring" overdrive with all the mega-crunch and modern high-gain you could want and somewhat less harsh in-your-face Hagen-treble.
I would say overall it feels brighter with more "sizzle" and "purr" on top, the overall character is definitely audible in the Messe videos on youtube! Very honest and open and the eq on the dmoll is very sensitive, so this is definitely a versatile amp and you can do a lot with the eq, your guitar's tone and volume and your fingers/picks. Each individual channel really is very versatile, I don't think you will miss anything. Very "healthy" tones everywhere.

Overall the vh4 feels like more growl (lower-mids?) and dmoll is more aggressive, has comparatively more sizzle in your face but the good kind of "sizzle", it's not too much and not harsh. I guess that's where the "modern" comes from.
Playing the dmoll also feels different from the vh4; I would say the vh4 is much more controlled and analytical, the dmoll has more of the Herbert feeling, more "it plays itself", somewhere between the two.



OK let me wrap this wall of text up for you.
tl;dr: Look, these lines all sound like I am trying to sell you a used car or something... When it comes down to it, much like the Joker, I am a man of simple tastes and instead of gasoline it's Diezel on my list... I don't want 1 million knobs and silly switches on my amp, they make me feel stupid for not knowing when to use them since usually they all don't do much anyway. I want a few great channels that match each other well enough in volume without taking days to dial the damn thing in. I want simple, reliable loops without 5 volume pots per loop. Really, you can call me ignorant if you want, but I just want to plug in and have fun playing after a shitty day. I feed the amp good pickups and from there I want to be able to use the guitar's volume and tone and my fingers to do the rest... so I can focus on noodling anything from jazz and blues and rock to metal. The dmoll delivers that in a versatile, handy package and when comparing the EU prices to the competition in that range here, this really is a no-brainer. If you like the Diezel tone then do yourself a favor, get one! In the long run this is cheaper than upgrading 2 or 3 times and you will have a lot of fun playing it and I am sure you won't miss anything.
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THANK YOU !
 
kahawe":3fityj7a said:
OK, so I played it both at home and at practice space levels! Damn this thing is LOUD!!!

First impressions: looks and feels great and damn HEAVY, peeking through the grille I see the same HUGE transformers the other Diezels have and all the other details are the same too. (Oh yea, no tuner out :P) So just from looking at it alone you can tell this is definitely not a cheap amp but very, very solid quality and I am really wondering even more how they do it at that price when compared to their other amps...? Seriously, how? Anyone?

Now, how does it sound! For whatever a written description is worth here especially after such a short time, you should know my ears are pointing to the vh4 as my "north"; ran both through a bogner 2x12 with v30s. (don't tell papa... ;))

Ch1: Cleans are more lively/chime-y/"glassy" so I guess much closer to Schmidt/Hagen, no icepicks but very punchy and very transparent with great overtones when you turn the gain up a little, you know just a bit of "glass" and subtle "purr"; the mid cut adds a nice touch here too! It really has a LOT of attack and punch and "clack" when you hit the strings!
Overall cleans are really great, very beautiful and different from the vh4, much less "hifi" and more like what most people would probably see as beautiful (if not "romantic") cleans!

Then you turn the gain up more and you get the absolutely nicest low-gain/overdrive sound, keeps the attack-punch with much more "purrrrr" just at the right frequencies! This is seriously good and of course you can go right back to clean with your guitar volume, I think I just made my low-gain overdrive pedals obsolete.


Ch2 is very Diezel-mega-crunch-y with a unique, new character. Goes from low gain to evil in-your-face-chugga and is quite aggressive there but with lots of "meat", a very healthy tone and palm-mutes just make the ground shake... as much lows as you could ever want or need; also fast and punchy and cleans up really well - as in summoning-the-demons-from-hell back to some crunch and overdrive and pretty much down to clean-ish Jazz if your guitar and pickups allow for that. I expect you can use this as your one-channel-silver-bullet!
You know how some amps get kinda ugly thin and fizzy when you turn your guitar volume down far enough? Not the dmoll! You really get good tones across the whole range of your guitar volume pot!!! Time to seriously think about investing in good pots with treble-bleed-caps!


Ch3 is thicker/meatier, much more mid-focused; you instantly hear this when switching from 2 to 3. I think this really makes sense since 2 and 3 share an EQ and the more mids will help you stand out more for solos for example, so yea, Ch3 is a lead channel but you can also play thick riffs and chords. Engaging the midcut here is also great and makes for an interesting option.


Most importantly first impression verdict: coming from the vh4, this is not a "lunchbox-vh4" but quite a different and new beast, Diezel through and through and feels more modern in tone but it also offers fantastic, gorgeous cleans and overdrive. Like Schmidt/Hagen cleans and "purrring" overdrive with all the mega-crunch and modern high-gain you could want and somewhat less harsh in-your-face Hagen-treble.
I would say overall it feels brighter with more "sizzle" and "purr" on top, the overall character is definitely audible in the Messe videos on youtube! Very honest and open and the eq on the dmoll is very sensitive, so this is definitely a versatile amp and you can do a lot with the eq, your guitar's tone and volume and your fingers/picks. Each individual channel really is very versatile, I don't think you will miss anything. Very "healthy" tones everywhere.

Overall the vh4 feels like more growl (lower-mids?) and dmoll is more aggressive, has comparatively more sizzle in your face but the good kind of "sizzle", it's not too much and not harsh. I guess that's where the "modern" comes from.
Playing the dmoll also feels different from the vh4; I would say the vh4 is much more controlled and analytical, the dmoll has more of the Herbert feeling, more "it plays itself", somewhere between the two.



OK let me wrap this wall of text up for you.
tl;dr: Look, these lines all sound like I am trying to sell you a used car or something... When it comes down to it, much like the Joker, I am a man of simple tastes and instead of gasoline it's Diezel on my list... I don't want 1 million knobs and silly switches on my amp, they make me feel stupid for not knowing when to use them since usually they all don't do much anyway. I want a few great channels that match each other well enough in volume without taking days to dial the damn thing in. I want simple, reliable loops without 5 volume pots per loop. Really, you can call me ignorant if you want, but I just want to plug in and have fun playing after a shitty day. I feed the amp good pickups and from there I want to be able to use the guitar's volume and tone and my fingers to do the rest... so I can focus on noodling anything from jazz and blues and rock to metal. The dmoll delivers that in a versatile, handy package and when comparing the EU prices to the competition in that range here, this really is a no-brainer. If you like the Diezel tone then do yourself a favor, get one! In the long run this is cheaper than upgrading 2 or 3 times and you will have a lot of fun playing it and I am sure you won't miss anything.
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Nice review man! Vielen Dank!
 
kahawe":1ik2f5mx said:
OK guys, I updated the original post since I finally got to take her out on the ranch! Thanks again to Papa and Stapferpit!
My dmoll is definitely staying, I am as happy as can be! :rock:

Sorry, still no chance to record *coughcough* Anyone in Frankfurt with a studio or is Ola touring around here somewhere???
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Set iPhone camera to video
Prop it up against a beer can
Aim toward the cab
Press Record
Strike a few chords
Change channels
Repeat
Post clip
 
Please don't mind my terrible playing and no structure and all that, I pointed an apogee MiC hooked up to an ipad at the box from a couple feet away, hit record and tried to noodle a bit whatever came to mind. No editing, no level matching, all EQs pretty much around noon, guitar straight into the amp.
I did not once switch channel during each clip, it is all just rolling back the guitar volume and different picking, especially for Ch2 and Ch3 - I mainly wanted to show the versatility and go to the possible extremes due to the amp being so very dynamic and responsive.

For Ch1 you hear 59/09 pickups, for Ch2 and Ch3 it is aftermaths. I think the clean sound turned out ok, quite close to what you actually hear when playing. 2 and 3 sound much better, clearer and punchier, heavier in real; the recording turned out a bit muffled since I did not touch the eq and AMs are darker and what not.
 
Thanks for posting that. Obviously not the ideal recording set up, but I think you can tell that amp is bad ass.

What was the cab and the volume level?
 
the rearloaded v30 2x12 from above.
master was set 9-ish and that was already LOUD :D
 
Listened to each clip. Thank you for posting these :salute:

Uncle Mo
 
:rock: :rock: :rock:
Thanks for letting the amp do the talking, and it has an evil voice and that mid cut option is great, makes me wish Peter would put mid cut options on a VH4 now
 
No hard feelings but I hope the amp doesn't actually sound like this.
Regardless of the price tag I really hope it's a true Diezel.
Thanks for posting.
 
Huh. I thought it sounded vicious in those clips. Obviously not a professional recording, but seems to me you can tell the character of the amp is awesome. Responded well to the volume knob and sounded like a big, angry Diezel.
 
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