JoshuaLogan":3rxr7dk8 said:
ajharris1215":3rxr7dk8 said:
nbarts":3rxr7dk8 said:
What made you prefer it over bogner cabs? How much emperor 2x12 runs for?
splawn makes an oversized 2x12. you should check it out.
emperor will build anything you want. mostly rearloaded, but i'm sure they could build a frontloaded. the company is basically 2 stoner guys that have impressive carpentry skills. you have to contact them for a quote, but i promise they're cheaper than bogner, diezel, even marshall. so is splawn for the moment. but as demand rises, this may not last.
emperor cabs are very popular right now with underground doom/metal bands. i prefer them because they don't cut any corners. all material is selected birch, including the baffle board. some cabs use pine for this. and fucking dovetail joints. i've never seen this before on any cab. dovetail is a very difficult joint to achieve. takes a lot of skill. emperors are the highest quality cabs i've ever found.
and to me, the cabs are basically transparent. they seem to produce the sound of your guitar, amp and speakers very naturally. gk100s in an emperor sound incredibly good with the vh4.
Could you compare the Emperor 6x12 to the Bogner 4x12 for me, please? I have the Bogner 4x12 and have been really, really curious about getting one of those Emperor 6x12's because they look so nice, but I don't know if I would like the sound of it better or not. Is it darker or brighter than the Bogner 4x12? More loose or more tight? Do you have V30's in your 6x12 or other speakers? What kind of music do you play? I'm guesing stoner rock/doom stuff by the type of gear you have... I'm not into loose and bassy though, so I hope that's not what they're like. But you're one of the only people I've seen who's owned both, so I'm really curious about your opinion. I've also played an Orange 4x12 if you can compare it to that...
I think the price is about $1100 or $1200 for the 6x12 shipped, so I'm not really sure if I want to do it or not....
EDIT: Also, for that padded cover you mentioned... does it cover the front of the cab or does it just go around the front/back? I mean, can you leave it on so it covers all but the front of the cab when playing live?
though i sometimes enjoy it, and despite being from south louisiana, i
do not play doom/stoner rock. i do however like TONE. real tone that is warm, tight, true and clear.
its hard to explain, but i play rather progressive/experimental, time-shifting, instrumental, hyper-riff oriented metal that requires a
very tight low end with warm powerful mids and flawless clarity. i can't express how tight i need my low end to be. its the basis of a vast majority of our riffs and tone... check the myspace link for a sample. however, only one song is from the new album (the great caldera), emperors were not acquired/used, and it was recorded before we integrated full time bass rigs into our overall guitar sound (which, incidentally, i highly reccommend - i use a polyphonic octave generator and a 3-way amp switcher. imagine playing guitar as usual but having an incredibly heavy bass tone behind everything you do... its beyond simply playing guitar, and is just awesome).
i think you'd be
much happier with the emperor 6x12 over a single bogner or orange 4x12. compared to almost any 4x12, the sound from a 6x12 is much more dynamic and full. IMHO, emperor's 6x12s not only sound better than the bogner 4x12s, but are superior to them in every way from design to construction/materials to overall quality, etc., etc...
i have mine loaded with 3 vintage 30s and 3 gk100s in a staggered pattern (awesome comination). the cab remains tight and true to the tone pushed through it. i would say its slightly darker than a bogner 4x12, but brighter than the orange. i have 2 bogner 4x12s and i find them to be very "forward projecting" cabs. the oranges are like this as well. the emperor 6x12 does a much better job of spreading the sound while producing more low end and much sweeter mids. the low end is probably a touch looser than the bogner 4x12, but not by much. actually, so little that its hardly worth mentioning.
i think the real effect that will come from an emperor 4x12 relies on the amp you're running through it. the cabs produce a nice, sweet, warm and
natural tone that stays
very tight with both my vh4 and '74 sunn model T. i've heard them with other amps (ecstacy 101b, bad cat, orange or120, green/matamp, etc.) and they always sounded good. as i mentioned before, emperor cabs seem to transparently produce the sound of the amp, and as with any good cabinet, tweaking a few knobs will bring you to where you want to be.
emperor sells thier cabs with thick padded slip covers... they slip on from the top and you have to remove them to play. they're mostly for transportation.