Digitech 2101

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A friend gave me a digitech 2101 to sell for him..
Anyone here have any experience with one of these??
Looks like a pretty cool unit.
Is there somewhere to download patches for these?
thanks for any help.
 
I think they were superseded by the GSP1101, but have more complex and advanced effect algorithms. I think they even had a preamp valve to warm up the amp models.
 
I used a 2120 for a few years. They do have a tube pre-amp. If you use the tube high gain settings, it gets pretty noisey. The effect section on the 2101 is not as flexible as the 2112 or 2120, but still much cooler than anything they are currently making.
 
chunktone":2y511t6f said:
I used a 2120 for a few years. They do have a tube pre-amp. If you use the tube high gain settings, it gets pretty noisey. The effect section on the 2101 is not as flexible as the 2112 or 2120, but still much cooler than anything they are currently making.
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Did you ever do any recording with it?
Looks like I can just plug direct int an interface and into my mac..
 
The 2101 is a pretty cool unit. Recording direct can produce some really cool tones. It has two tubes for the tube preamp section and the FX are really good.
The 2101 is in my opinion a much better unit than the 2112 or the 2120. The problem was the algorithms were complicated to setup and it was over most folks heads. If it has the Second SDisc option then it will do seamless patch changes that work flawlessly.

Go here for some presets. The dude put up a couple of mine called Mark's Big Solo...take off some of the chorus or pitch detune...lol, it was a long time ago.

http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/gsp210 ... 1/patches/

Mark
 
I had a 2120 for ten years. The low voltage gain from the tubes sucked but the effects were awesome. Never played the 2101.
 
Mark Day":140cb4h6 said:
The 2101 is a pretty cool unit. Recording direct can produce some really cool tones. It has two tubes for the tube preamp section and the FX are really good.
The 2101 is in my opinion a much better unit than the 2112 or the 2120. The problem was the algorithms were complicated to setup and it was over most folks heads. If it has the Second SDisc option then it will do seamless patch changes that work flawlessly.

Go here for some presets. The dude put up a couple of mine called Mark's Big Solo...take off some of the chorus or pitch detune...lol, it was a long time ago.

http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/gsp210 ... 1/patches/

Mark
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Thanks Mark,
How would I know if it has the second disc option?
 
base341":2uzonm04 said:
Mark Day":2uzonm04 said:
The 2101 is a pretty cool unit. Recording direct can produce some really cool tones. It has two tubes for the tube preamp section and the FX are really good.
The 2101 is in my opinion a much better unit than the 2112 or the 2120. The problem was the algorithms were complicated to setup and it was over most folks heads. If it has the Second SDisc option then it will do seamless patch changes that work flawlessly.

Go here for some presets. The dude put up a couple of mine called Mark's Big Solo...take off some of the chorus or pitch detune...lol, it was a long time ago.

http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/gsp210 ... 1/patches/

Mark
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Thanks Mark,
How would I know if it has the second disc option?
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Q: How can I find out if I have a PPC-210 card installed in my GSP 2101 (Artist, LE, Pro)?
A: Execute these steps:
- dial program 101 (Lead On Me)
- Press the "Utility" button
- Press the "Next" button TWICE(!)
- If the display shows "Seamless Program 101" you have a PPC210 installed in you unit!
- If the display shows "Global EQ" you have no PPC210 installed in you unit!


Mark
 
Thanks again Mark,
Anyone know where I can download the manual..
Digitech site has the 1101 but nothing this old..
 
chunktone":377udj85 said:
I used a 2120 for a few years. They do have a tube pre-amp. If you use the tube high gain settings, it gets pretty noisey. The effect section on the 2101 is not as flexible as the 2112 or 2120, but still much cooler than anything they are currently making.
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sorry bro, i gotta disagree on this, in a nice way though! i used one extensively (actually 2) for about 12 years.

the effects editing on the 2101 blew away the 2112 and the 2120.... google the comparison and see that the main issue with the 2101 was that people hated that it was pretty much infinitely editable, and you could build insanely complex algorithims in it (esp with 2 ppc cards and the 3.01 version upgrade). people wanted more plug and play units from digitech, and that's ultimately what the 2112 and the 2120 ended up being.

i've played the 2112 and 2120 too... didn't LOVE them, though they were great units too at the time, and there were things i liked that they offered that i wished the 2101 had (like the edit knobs, instead of buttons) but, the 2101 just offered SO MUCH more tweakability and buildability...it was basically the axe fx of its day with no modeling (that coming from a friend that has an axe and had a 2101). the whole 21xx series was fantastic though.

i go back and forth of grabbing another one for 200 on ebay....and just using it for effects and a backup.
yeah, sounds gay, but, i got great sounds out of it and would own another if given the right deal.

it had 2 preamp tubes in it too, and you could change them out with different results. i ended up using groove tubes in it.

just out of curiousity, when you power it up, what version does it say? do you know if it has 2 ppc210 cards in it?
 
yeti":ot61yzll said:
chunktone":ot61yzll said:
I used a 2120 for a few years. They do have a tube pre-amp. If you use the tube high gain settings, it gets pretty noisey. The effect section on the 2101 is not as flexible as the 2112 or 2120, but still much cooler than anything they are currently making.
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sorry bro, i gotta disagree on this, in a nice way though! i used one extensively (actually 2) for about 12 years.

the effects editing on the 2101 blew away the 2112 and the 2120.... google the comparison and see that the main issue with the 2101 was that people hated that it was pretty much infinitely editable, and you could build insanely complex algorithims in it (esp with 2 ppc cards and the 3.01 version upgrade). people wanted more plug and play units from digitech, and that's ultimately what the 2112 and the 2120 ended up being.

i've played the 2112 and 2120 too... didn't LOVE them, though they were great units too at the time, and there were things i liked that they offered that i wished the 2101 had (like the edit knobs, instead of buttons) but, the 2101 just offered SO MUCH more tweakability and buildability...it was basically the axe fx of its day with no modeling (that coming from a friend that has an axe and had a 2101). the whole 21xx series was fantastic though.

i go back and forth of grabbing another one for 200 on ebay....and just using it for effects and a backup.
yeah, sounds gay, but, i got great sounds out of it and would own another if given the right deal.

it had 2 preamp tubes in it too, and you could change them out with different results. i ended up using groove tubes in it.

just out of curiousity, when you power it up, what version does it say? do you know if it has 2 ppc210 cards in it?
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It says 2101 artist
3.00.00.a when I power it up..
Looks like it doesn't have ppc210 cards in it.
My buddy bought it new in 94 and I don't think he's done anything to it.
Should I replace the tubes?
Is it easy to do?
I just played with it for a couple of hours and it was a blast.
I think I going to buy this, Looks like it will be easy to record with..
 
good news, thats the latest and final version = 3.00.00 a

if it says artist on the front of the unit (not just on the led screen) then it has 2 sdisc ppc210 cards, or, it should, as the artist version came with it, but maybe not, a good page to read (if you're going to keep it) is http://www.tube-tester.com/sites/gsp210 ... pgrade.htm

also, you can tell real easily if you have a 2nd sdisc...your delays and reverb will spillover from program to program...and when you change programs (without going into much detail) say, from preset 1 to 2, it shouldn't drop out at all..it should be instantaneous.
 
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i just bought a 2101 in mint condition for 40.00 bucks at the flea market
loving it and tweeking it hard!
 
controlled_voltage":2nb35t31 said:
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i just bought a 2101 in mint condition for 40.00 bucks at the flea market
loving it and tweeking it hard!
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WOW

that's a STEAL of a steal.

i got one recently for 150, with a carpeted crappy rack, but it also has the control one...those alone sell for 80 bux on ebay.

i haven't messed with mine too much though. i have a bunch of stuff for it on my computer, but just havent had time.
 
The FX on the 2101 are awesome. I know when A Perfect Circle recorded their first album they used a 2101 or a 2112 for a ton of their fx. I still plan on buying one someday simply crazy sounds.
 
like i said, you can edit til your heart's delight building algorithms....

i REALLY wish though they'd have put the wah and whammy pre distortion instead of post on the 2101 units. there are other small issues that i have with some of the layout, BUT....all in all, i know those units pretty well, and, like any piece of gear, whether it's an 80$ v-amp, or a 3k amp...in the right hands, you can achieve a lot. better gear makes it easier.
digitech 2101 units are STILL great pieces of gear, if you know how to use them

and like i said, there isn't any modeling. there's the different preamps, and you go from there....and i like that you can flavor it yourself.

of course, the drawback for some is it's digital, and i would guess that the tubes are starved voltage...but they still sound good.

all in all, 40 for one is a hella great deal.
 
the tubes in these actually ARENT starved...but not quite full on....around 190 i think when i measured my plates.

necro bump!
 
There's good, bad, and ugly about them, but I still use mine for some clean stuff and layering/effects when I'm recording.
 
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