Does anybody else feel no desire to mod Eggy mods?

[Doubleneck]

Isn't modding amps how Bruce got into this business a long time ago? And isn't the reason why he started the Modular series was because people asked him to mod his IE-4 for them to get the tone they were looking for?[/quote]

I agree with with Eric 100% on this.

The reason we all read this forum and have purchased Egnater amps is because we are all looking for something better. Egnater Amps & Module's are greatly improved modded versions of the amps we all love, and if someone wants to tweak a certain module head etc.. so be it.

I've read many times on this forum from one individual or another, wish it it was brighter, wish it was tighter, wish it had more distortion etc...

If someone can improve on a certain Egnater base sound or idea and incorporate into making them a better musician than all the better!

All the guys at Egnater have always been welcome to suggestions and improvements on their designs and thats why I use Egnater!

 

[MarcoR]

I’m glad you mention the mod Eric; I find myself going back and forth between the SL2 and 3/4 every week! I love the SL2 cut and grind but the 3/4 is just my lead tone.

The mod is so simple that why not mess with it? And I can relate to “Taking the blanket off” with the 3/4 which is usually why I end up going back to the SL2.

The cap and new tubes should be here on Monday. There’s a good chance the new tubes will be all I need to get it to where I want. If I do change the cap, I will socket it and try a few values and see for myself.

And yes, I too wish there would be a module building class! I think my E’rect would be a good candidate for some experimenting. (hmm that sounded weird…)

 

[jkdsteve]

COD needs moar gain for my slop...but heck, a pedal can (mostyl) solve that

I am totally mystified why anyone would mess with an EG3/4 though....want bite? Get an SL2.....case solved!

Hear what you are saying...but if I went that route (to madness)..I'd need two EG3/4 modules....

Well, I am sorry I pissed you all off w/ me changing my modules. I'll just keep those types of changes to myself from now on, not to ensue another onslaught of pissed off people around here for someone choosing to change Bruce's "holy grail" of tone. Sorry for not jumping on the EG3/4 bandwagon and loving it right out of the box. Guess that does make me a "mad man."

Sorry..I think I missed a smiley....might have put this thread off track.

I had over 20 mods at one point (stock, bought modded and self modded)..tone chasing drives me crazy .. no desire to start changing Egnaters in general..if I did..think I'd go mad....but it's all

Thanks for the tip....

 

[broknstuff]

I don't feel the need to mod egnater modules, but am not bothered by people doing it. I'm so happy with my tone I'm not thinking "hm this could be improved if..". The only module so far I didn't bond with was the eg5, I could see modding that, but instead I sold it and got an erect and it was what I was looking for, so problem solved for me. If someone who is more handy with a soldering iron and likes tweaking gets a result they are looking for with some simple changes, then more power to them! Even if it's not for me, I'm glad that they share their experiences because others may be in a similar positions as they are or were.

 

[Anonymous]

We'll see after I get the M4 next week!

Personally, I think that's what the Randall mods will be for in my case. As far as I'm concerned you bought it so you can do whatever the hell you want with it!

In my case, I'm sure I will be happy with it stock for a very long time. Modding the amp for me is very late in the order of operations. That being said, it seems to me that the mission statement for Egnater is for you to sound like YOU. From what I've been hearing folks are saying if you had 3 M4's side-by-side they would all sound slightly different. That to me is very appealing.

I think what everyone here needs is a little...

 

[jmgman69]

I think what everyone here needs is a little...

for some weird reason,that doesn't look right

 

[guitarslinger]

Sorry, I'm the new Jerry McGuire.

I just hope when these modded (or de-modded) modules start circulating, I get full disclosure that some of the parts weren't soldered by Terry, Bruce, or Jeff.

 

[Fallout Labs]

Sorry, I'm the new Jerry McGuire.

I just hope when these modded (or de-modded) modules start circulating, I get full disclosure that some of the parts weren't soldered by Terry, Bruce, or Jeff.

i agree with you 100% on that.. i think if the egnater guys wanted to do something this route, a new pcb would be printed with something burned on the pcb stating its a modded module.

 

[Valtiel]

Sorry, I'm the new Jerry McGuire.

I just hope when these modded (or de-modded) modules start circulating, I get full disclosure that some of the parts weren't soldered by Terry, Bruce, or Jeff.

Im seeing this...

But all im hearing is this....

 

[muudrock]

My amp is called a "MOD" 50 and it uses "MOD"ules.

I say do what ya want. Just please inform the next person of what you did should you sell it off. It would be a shame for some one to screw up a module and pawn it off to some unknowing eg-head....Not that anyone on this forum would do that.

I for one, tore into most of my Randall modules, but I have some background working on PCBs. For someone not skilled with a soldering iron, the results may not be so good. I soldered in the aformentioned sockets for trying different resistor and capacitor values in the tonestack and gain circuits. When I found what I liked, I soldered it in and was done, or put it back to stock if that is what worked.
I thoroughly enjoyed poking around in the modules--great learning experience into the workings of the preamp section of an amplifier.

That being said, I am happy with the Egnater modules as is. They sound great, and I sound like me and that inspires me to play!

 

[MkIV]

Why not mod a module if it could get you from good to great! I have modded most of the other tube amps I have so I would have no problem having an Egnater module modified as well if it would get me closer to my "dream sound"...

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

Man sorry I made the TOL statement! We do truly feel that our amp should be yours! If the modifications are done with our blessings we don't have a problem. The fear is someone destroys the module with their modifications and then sells them and it looks like our work. Again this is why we are hesitant to do a module class. The seminar amps don't sell very well when they are made by customers. But if Teri, me or Bruce make it then it brings top dollar.
I am all for messing around as long as you ask the girl first!

 

[EWSEthan]

I think you should be able to mod all you want. You did pay for the module and you should make it sound however you want. But I agree that if you intend to sell it, there should be full disclosure. But thats the same with ANY amp.

 

[Fallout Labs]

Man sorry I made the TOL statement! We do truly feel that our amp should be yours! If the modifications are done with our blessings we don't have a problem. The fear is someone destroys the module with their modifications and then sells them and it looks like our work. Again this is why we are hesitant to do a module class. The seminar amps don't sell very well when they are made by customers. But if Teri, me or Bruce make it then it brings top dollar.
I am all for messing around as long as you ask the girl first!

if thats the case, is it possible to get the Circuit diagrams for modules?

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

Man sorry I made the TOL statement! We do truly feel that our amp should be yours! If the modifications are done with our blessings we don't have a problem. The fear is someone destroys the module with their modifications and then sells them and it looks like our work. Again this is why we are hesitant to do a module class. The seminar amps don't sell very well when they are made by customers. But if Teri, me or Bruce make it then it brings top dollar.
I am all for messing around as long as you ask the girl first!

if thats the case, is it possible to get the Circuit diagrams for modules?

Yes but getting them from Bruce is like pulling teeth. I will do my best to get anything you want PM me or email me at jeff@egnater.com

 

[bbp]

Yes but getting them from Bruce is like pulling teeth.

I've found that a baseball bat is a great toll for both removing teeth and motivating people. Maybe you should try that?

 

[Jeff Hilligan]

Yes but getting them from Bruce is like pulling teeth.

I've found that a baseball bat is a great toll for both removing teeth and motivating people. Maybe you should try that?

Not that he doesnt want to...its just a matter of time, time he doesn't have!

 

[stratotone]

Jeff probably figured I was going to jump in on this. I've modded a ton of Randall modules for folks. Recently I started signing the tube cages (and the chassis under the PCB) because so many people on the MTS board started doing their own mods based on mine. Some are really clean, some look like a guy pissed solder on a pcb and threw parts on it from across the room. I take the PCBs off the carrier, solder on the back side, etc. Some modders just do stuff from the top of the board, which is a heck of a lot faster, but I prefer doing it as 'stock' as possible.

One of the few modules I refused to mod was an Egnater Vox - I told the guy to leave it alone, it was perfect as is. I also turn down a lot of mod work, because some people have greater expectations for a mod than I am going to promise. You can do a lot by changing some parts in the signal path though, even changing just parts and not values makes a difference.

The Egnater stuff is a better product IMHO, but the Randall gear is hard to beat for a 'bang for your buck', and there are a lot of guitarists out there who enjoy the Randall modules stock. All of the Egnater designed stuff I have played or owned, including my TOL100 I had awhile back, were awesome amps.

Pete