Eminence DV-77/V30 blend?

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Hey guys,

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on two 16 ohm DV-77 speakers to pair with the V30s in my 2016 Bogner 412ST.

Any good experience with the DV-77 and V30?

Eventually I want to save up and grab the Omega VM12-65 to blend.

I was gonna go with Mesa MC-90s to pair with my V30s but I'm really tempted to get the new DV-77s.

Thanks!
 
Lengthy reply, sorry!

I ordered my Omega 4x12 and received it mid/end of last year with the V12M-65 / DV-77 combo ( 65s on bottom / 77s on top )
Within 30 mins of playing on it through the amps, I could tell I did not care for the DV-77s at all. I flipped the cab upside down and was enjoying the 65s but when I'd step back, I immediately didn't care for the combo. It was dark, not real tight but not loose either, lower mid based and wasn't my thing. I've since removed the DV-77s and replaced them with Redbacks on top and am liking it more but still not where I want it to be.

People seem to compare the DV-77s to V30s and they're completely opposite to my ears and if anything, the V12M-65s are more similar to a V30 but without the shrill. I have been curious what the DV-77s would sound like with V30s but I still think they're too opposite and would end up somewhere in the middle range like the 65/77 did.

Now V30s and Creambacks, that's what I want to try next I think.
 
JHowell13 said:
Lengthy reply, sorry!

I ordered my Omega 4x12 and received it mid/end of last year with the V12M-65 / DV-77 combo ( 65s on bottom / 77s on top )
Within 30 mins of playing on it through the amps, I could tell I did not care for the DV-77s at all. I flipped the cab upside down and was enjoying the 65s but when I'd step back, I immediately didn't care for the combo. It was dark, not real tight but not loose either, lower mid based and wasn't my thing. I've since removed the DV-77s and replaced them with Redbacks on top and am liking it more but still not where I want it to be.

People seem to compare the DV-77s to V30s and they're completely opposite to my ears and if anything, the V12M-65s are more similar to a V30 but without the shrill. I have been curious what the DV-77s would sound like with V30s but I still think they're too opposite and would end up somewhere in the middle range like the 65/77 did.

Now V30s and Creambacks, that's what I want to try next I think.
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I think your ears are broken 😉😆
 
Lol...

You preferred the Redbacks over the DV-77. Jarrod of Tome Wars said he preferred the DV-77 over the Redbacks. All of this is so subjective.
H is also back to mostly just using V30s.

I talked to Eminence and apparently many people say the DV-77 is what they want a V30 to be.

The CV-75 is supposed to be what the original V30s were like and the Governor is their general V30 type speaker - yet for certain warm and darker.

I was recommended DV-77/Governor or CV-75, followed by VM12-65.

I could also just stick to my Redback/Mesa V30 in my Splawn and K100 or MC90/V30 in my Bogner.
 
JHowell, what didn't you like about the DV77?
Eminence says the lows are huge and tight, like a better Swamp Thang?
 
PSGuitar said:
JHowell, what didn't you like about the DV77?
Eminence says the lows are huge and tight, like a better Swamp Thang?
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The lows were big but I didn't feel that combo was real tight and it was darker than I prefer. I didn't get a chance to play the DV77 on it's own though. My go to is a K100, which to my ears is fairly neutral but not in a bad way. The thing too is Mick has always used K100s prior to moving to the DV77. So I initially thought the DV77s would be similar to the K100 but again, I didn't get to try them on their own.
 
PSGuitar said:
Hey guys,

I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on two 16 ohm DV-77 speakers to pair with the V30s in my 2016 Bogner 412ST.

Any good experience with the DV-77 and V30?

Eventually I want to save up and grab the Omega VM12-65 to blend.

I was gonna go with Mesa MC-90s to pair with my V30s but I'm really tempted to get the new DV-77s.

Thanks!
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I have a Marshall 1960a 4x12 loaded with the Marshall 16ohm V30s and DV77s. After hearing them together, I've never desired one without the other.
 
Not a fan of the DV-77 either. As with most things really, I bought them based on all the internet hype and I don't get the V30 references. Its more T75 K100-ish to my ears. I pulled them out after a solid week of trying to force myself to like them. Wasn't a terrible speaker but just wasn't what I was led to believe what they were. My V30's paired better with my K100's. YMMV.
 
Purity said:
Not a fan of the DV-77 either. As with most things really, I bought them based on all the internet hype and I don't get the V30 references. Its more T75 K100-ish to my ears. I pulled them out after a solid week of trying to force myself to like them. Wasn't a terrible speaker but just wasn't what I was led to believe what they were. My V30's paired better with my K100's. YMMV.
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Good to know! Thanks!

I have two V30s in the Bogner and two K100s were my first thought and choice to blend.

My other thought was CL80 or Mesa MC-90.

Ever tried the Mesa C90? I was gonna do those or the K100s with my V30s.
 
Krull said:
I replaced my k100's with the dv77's in my front loaded x pattern cab with v30s and I prefer the dv77's. Speakers aren't broken in yet but still complements the v30s well I think. If you are a metal player I think you would like them.
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What do you prefer over the K-100s?
 
Thanka man.
I like variety. My one 412 is V30/Redback.
This Bogner will be V30/K100.
I hear some claims of the K100 having harsh highs but I don't hear that.
 
PSGuitar said:
Thanka man.
I like variety. My one 412 is V30/Redback.
This Bogner will be V30/K100.
I hear some claims of the K100 having harsh highs but I don't hear that.
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K100’s have much smoother highs than T75, which is why I prefer it much more paired with the already somewhat harsh natured V30. They have a HiFi sound with huge and tight lows and everything else on the spectrum is well balanced. Not as scooped as T75’s. Btw, this combo of speakers is what I currently have loaded in an OS Mesa 412.

As to your question about C90’s, yes I played through one but it was in a Thiele cab. I liked it quite a bit but never thought of trying them in a 412 cab.
 
Coffee cabs whom I like, recommends V30/K100 or V30/Redback.

Im thinking of trying a C-90 in one of my semi open back 212 cabs.

Mesa told me the C90 has too much low end for a closed back which is an odd thought since I've used K100, Redbacks, etc...in closed cabs.

When I listen to clips, the K100 sounds nasal compared to the DV-77.
 
So, here is a demo of Redbacks, K-100s, DV-77s and VM-1265s.

I really love Redbacks as I have tons of those, plus also love K100s.

 
I don't think that video demonstrates it well enough, but the thing about the DV77 is it seems to get lost in a mix on its own. It's missing the upper mid characteristics found on most speakers. Imo, it's a speaker that you mix with others, and it is excellent for that. It will thicken up a tone very nicely without adding any harshness.
 
Most of my friends who went with DV-77's ended up pulling them out very soon after. I think Jarrod is a skilled guitarist but I take his opinions with a grain of salt.

I ordered a 4x12 from KSR with creambacks and either dv77 or redbacks. I just told Kyle to put in whichever he recommends as he had both at the time I ordered and when I got the cab with redbacks and creambacks. I'm glad that's what I ended up with as I absolutely love them. I do wish I still a cab with v30's though just for variety.
 
Clint - which Creamback? H or M?
I am tempted to try that in my 412.
Currently is Redback/Mesa V30.

Even Jarrod is back to using V30s and sometimes the K100s.

Maybe I'll just grab a few K100s to mix with my V30s and skip Eminence.

Although the Governors had my interest.

So my one 412 will be Redback/V30(Mesa) and the other will be V30/K100.

I tried Redback/Creamback H75 didn't do it for me. I ended up with Redback/CL80 in a 212.
Creamback H75 to me had a hole in the mids but I like the Creamback M65 but wonder how it would be with the Redback.

Other 212 is Redback/K100.
 
JHowell13 said:
Lengthy reply, sorry!

I ordered my Omega 4x12 and received it mid/end of last year with the V12M-65 / DV-77 combo ( 65s on bottom / 77s on top )
Within 30 mins of playing on it through the amps, I could tell I did not care for the DV-77s at all. I flipped the cab upside down and was enjoying the 65s but when I'd step back, I immediately didn't care for the combo. It was dark, not real tight but not loose either, lower mid based and wasn't my thing. I've since removed the DV-77s and replaced them with Redbacks on top and am liking it more but still not where I want it to be.

People seem to compare the DV-77s to V30s and they're completely opposite to my ears and if anything, the V12M-65s are more similar to a V30 but without the shrill. I have been curious what the DV-77s would sound like with V30s but I still think they're too opposite and would end up somewhere in the middle range like the 65/77 did.

Now V30s and Creambacks, that's what I want to try next I think.
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What did you mean when you said they would end up sounding too opposite? Too opposite to blend?
I find speaker that are oppsote, blend well. Just like how I use the Redback and V30 blend.

What did you mean about the V30/DV77 ending up in the middle range like the 65/77? What's the middle range?
 
PSGuitar said:
What did you mean when you said they would end up sounding too opposite? Too opposite to blend?
I find speaker that are oppsote, blend well. Just like how I use the Redback and V30 blend.

What did you mean about the V30/DV77 ending up in the middle range like the 65/77? What's the middle range?
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I just meant that people related the DV-77 to the V30 when they're complete opposite sounding to my ears. The V12M-65 is more V30 like if I had to pick a comparison. That's all.

I might have meant mid range or something. To me the 65/77 paired flattens each other out but in a bad way. Those speakers on their own sound good but paired, I was not a fan at all.
 
Yes innit sure how people got that comparison. Strange.

Even Eminence will tell you the VM12-65 is more like a V30, along with the C-75 which is their take on an original V30 and the Governor is their standard V30 type speaker.

The DV-77 seems more like a mix of a Redbacks and K-100, to my ears. Lol.
I could be way off!

Eminence suggest DV-77/Governor.

That said, I know guys who love the DV77/V30 and since I already have V30s in my Bogner, I am thinking of getting DV-77s or maybe Fane F-70s. They were recommended.
Also the Redback/Creamback I bet is great Coffe Cabs does that mix in their 212 cabs.

I know guys say 8 ohm speakers are darker or warmer, fuller, but not sure I'd hear a difference and since I can only replace two speakers at a time in my Bogner, I have to stick with 16 ohm speakers.

Are two 8 ohm speakers, the same as running two 16 ohm speakers at 8ohms, in terms of what the final sound is like?
 
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