ERECT ROCKS! long.. (comparison to a real recto and eg5)

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Edit: Recto = mesa boogie dual rectifier ; Erect = egnater erect module

Yo everyone, I got an Erect in the mail today and took a little break to fire it up.

:rock: Is all I can say! This and my McCarty together sound huuuuuge.

I used to actually own a recto before I got the egnater. It may not be exactly the same, but I'm not saying that as a negative! The recto had some good tunes in there, but could get really buzzy if you weren't careful or didn't turn it up till your ears bled. The egnater took away that swarm of bees :thumbsup: The recto is also known for it's big bass sounds, but I felt like I was always walking the between big bass and woofy (big bass while playing regular, a bit woofy on the palm mutes). The egnator sounds really big (I have the bass boost on 1), but I never for once thought it was loose or woofy. Lastly, the recto mid knob changed the feel of the amp more than the sound, at least for me. Mids down it was spongier, and mids up it was stiffer; it always felt like I had to get to the mids in a round about kind of way. Erect trumps the recto hands down in terms of dialing it in. I've spent forever dialing in my recto, and would constantly tweak it. I put the module in, set it all to 12, backed off the treble just a tad, and found what I was looking for! I remember when i had the recto I had a pick in one hand and the other was on the control knob. Only thing I changed today was playing around with the range of gain. There are some really cool and usable tones even with the gain down really low. This module also feels really great to play. This and the Vox may be my be the most fun for me to play.

That's not to say the recto sucked. I actually really liked the amp when I had it, and when it was on it was on. The amp has it's ups and downs, but the second we started our set I was loving it. As a disclaimer this wasn't a side by side comparison either, but I did own the recto for a while. From what I remember, the recto did sound slightly more aggressive and pissed off; that may just be the more nasally nature of the recto though. The recto i think also was a great live amp, maybe because the buzziness disappeared with the cymbals and it cut through well.

As far as comparing it to the eg5: I've actually really warmed up a lot more to the eg5. The eg5 hands down has more gain. But for my style, the recto has more of the type of gain I want. I'd say the Erect has more of that thump I was looking for, and the eg5 has more top end and maybe is more focused. I'll update more on my erect vs. eg5 though because I think I have a bad tube in there because it gets more floor noise on the eg5 now. Anyways, I found the erect to be thicker, but it is still not loose! For now I personally like the erect more, but I still like the eg5 too. I'd say the eg5 is more cutting and upper mid emphasis, way more gain, with the erect being a more modern sound (has more low mids) and the eg5 being more classic high gain on steroids. I'd say the eg5 may be more aggressive than both the erect and maybe even the recto, but it's aggressive in a different way. I could see them working really well together actually.

This module rocks, and the egnater crew took care of all the little pet peeves I had with the original recto. The Erect sounds much more like the rectos I've heard on good records, the sounds I was trying to get, rather than what most rectos will sound like in front of you (which is a cool sound too). The mesa is slightly more aggressive, but I don't miss it, especially considering how many other sweet tones I can easily get out of my mod. It's not 100% the same but an equally effective substitute and has it's own thing going on. Oh and lastly, it can sound good at way more reasonable volumes than the mesa. It may be a few months before I try it live with a band, but this module sounds pretty full and has mids, so I think it'll sound great with a band too.

Man it sure is hard to talk about sound...i did my best but thoughts or questions welcome. I don't hear too much rave about this module, but I think it kicks.

I ran it through my mod50, with mullard el34s in the powertubes. It had stock sovtek preamp tubes. I haven't even tried 5881 or 6l6s with the amp which I've heard sound great though them, because it already sound so great just the way it is.

I thought with the egnater it would solve my gas problems, but that just gave way for MOD gas. Then they all sound so good, it gets you thinking "what if I could run more than one at a time...stereo?!".. so damnit I have GAS again, but for more egnater stuff :lol: :LOL:
 
The Erect is my favourite module, it just suits my musical style so well! I can't get a bad sound out of it :D

It also loves being driven hard by my ceramic warpig!
 
Thanks for the review!

Are there enough mids for soloing? I like using the same module for rhythm and lead and just boost volume for lead. The EG5 is more for the guys who like major gain so I was thinking of trading for the E-Rec. Problem is I love EG5 channel A but not B.

Is it compressed at all? That is what I hate about EG5 channel B - too compressed and I can't get gain past 10:00! I like a more open and natural tone.

Thanks!
 
Does anyone have clips of the Erect? I'm interested in this module when it comes time for me to order a M4. If it could give me the tone on Candlebox's first record (which I believe was recorded using a pre-500 early Recto) then I'm totally game! That's one of my favorite high gain/Mesa-ish tones!
 
The Erect is less compressed than the eg5. For my style of playing I found the erect to have a wider range of usable gain. I don't get past 9 or 10 either on the eg5, and actually sometimes stick to like around 8 or just barely on. With the Erect you can set it on like 10 and it'll still react a bit depending on how hard you hit it; not that it's going to go from dirty to clean with the gain at 10 or 11 just on touch, but it feels like it compresses more when you hit it harder (in a good way). It feels more natural/familiar to me in terms of how it gives and reacts. You can EQ each module for a similar sound, but the feel is different, with the Eg5 is a bit stiffer, compressed. You can set the gain really low on the erect and get that "low gain amp trying to do mid gain" kind of thing which I like too.

As for solos, this thing definitely sounds better on single note stuff than the mesa did. The mesa would sound good for power chords and then on the same setting single note stuff sounded really weird. What kind of lead tones are you going for richie? I love the SL2 B channel for solo tone. I was mainly playing rhythm/power chord kind of stuff when I got it, but the little I dweedled around it sounded good to me. It'd say it may be a little less forgiving, or maybe I was particularly sloppy yesterday lol. Although it's clear enough I could see adding reverb or delay or whatever other tools I'll use to cover up my slop and it still be clear ;)

John C. I think has some erect clips over in the stickied clips thread. I'm not familiar with candlebox's stuff, and I've never played a pre500 recto, but judging from the youtube videos (which aren't great quality..) I think this module will get you there (with the real rectos maybe being slightly more aggressive). I just heard that song "change", sounds kickin.
 
Oh keep in mind I was playing it with my PRS McCarty with stock pickups, which is a low output, vintage style pup that's kind of dark/rounded high end in general. That's probably what I'm noticing as "less aggressive" lol, so take that with a grain of salt. It's still my favorite combination, they sound GREAT together.

I'll try it with my single cut trem at some other point, which has higher output pups, but doesn't sound as thick as the McCarty. I only plugged in the sct for a second but I was itching to play the mccarty that day (I have 11s on the mccarty but still have 9s on the sct, and I play with a rather heavy hand..). Maybe within the week I'll try it with the SCT if I get some free time.The SCT loooove the vox module, and this mccary loves the erect. :rock:
 
richedie":2l6uwc3n said:
Thanks for the review!

Are there enough mids for soloing? I like using the same module for rhythm and lead and just boost volume for lead. The EG5 is more for the guys who like major gain so I was thinking of trading for the E-Rec. Problem is I love EG5 channel A but not B.

Is it compressed at all? That is what I hate about EG5 channel B - too compressed and I can't get gain past 10:00! I like a more open and natural tone.

Thanks!
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Aren't the EG5 A & B channels identical?
 
EG5 A and B are VERY different - way more gain on channel B and way more compressed...not as much midrange nor as open.

Broknstuff...

I like channel A of the EG5 and that makes it tough to sell or trade but I can't make use of channel B at all thus far. :( I like thick, singing lead tones - the SL2 and EG3/4 come to mind. :yes: The EG5 is stiffer, clinical, more Soldano-ish which is not my thing. I am more a Marshall guy and I love a lot of Mesa tones but never got the lead tone out of them I like. I like to be able to dial in a thick rhythm and then just boost volume for lead, can't do that with scooped/compressed tones.

Lots of guys like the EG5 for 80s metal and hard rock, Ozzy to Van Halen, but I find the SL2 is as good or better for that. After all, many of those guys used Marshalls!. Marshalls and Mesas are widely used so I think that is why the tones are so....in my head. ;)

If only I could get EG5 channel B sounding better, I'd be on board. Maybe I'll end up getting the E-Rec and selling whichever does me better.
 
Yeah if you can spring for it it's always best to compare them back to back and then chose which one is best for you. The erect sounds full, not really scooped, the way I have it set. I like the marshall lead tones too, which like I said SL2 B channel, but I think this one can get a good mesa style lead out of this. I don't have it super saturated saturated, but I can try it out later and report back.

I think I may set my channel A to be "lower gain" for some clearer kind of stuff, and then channel B to be a higher gain power chord ready rhythm. I realized while playing around that some songs I was playing along too had less gain than I had though, so I'm using that for channel A. Then Channel B is my higher gain setting and I can use both sometimes as a way to make a chorus or bridge jump out more.
 
Thanks,

The way I use my mods is channel A for lower gain songs and channel B for heavier gain songs. I use a transparent boost in the loop for leads, no EQ changes.
 
broknstuff":354zfjqw said:
Yeah if you can spring for it it's always best to compare them back to back and then chose which one is best for you. The erect sounds full, not really scooped, the way I have it set.
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I honestly found hat the E'Rect had such great sounding, full mids that I could dial back the mid control quite a ways and still not get into that 'sounding like a distant transistor radio noise' .. it was awesome for that, though if it were possible..I'd like a mid control for ch A and B..instead I used an SD-1 as a boost.
 
I love it too.

The secret with the Erect is HOT pickups.

It was the only instance where I actually liked EMG's. :lol: :LOL:
 
guitarslinger":udk7lwi5 said:
I love it too.

The secret with the Erect is HOT pickups.

It was the only instance where I actually liked EMG's. :lol: :LOL:
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richedie":1sij4rar said:
updates on testing?
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I've been busier than I've thought. I take a break here and there and check out some forums/email, because it's way to late for me to fire up the rig. Looks like it might be a few weeks till I can put in some decent time...Either way my erect is not going anywhere, I LOVE how it sounds and feels with my McCarty. It has the right hint of "give" when you dig in at moderate high gain but is still clear, it's the right balance for me. I'm REALLY happy with this module.
 
Just got the E-Rect to test......The E-rect rocks, I love it! My EG-5 is in danger of going away. LOL. Just not my thing, but love, love the E-Rect. Feels like the older, dual recs with better midrange and so full!
 
I thought you'd like it richie! So last night i had the house to myself and wanted to relieve some stress. Love it with my singelcut trem too. The mccarty is a darker/thicker guitar with different style pickups, but what I found really great about the mod50 was that instead of going and tweaking each mod I just tweaked the density and presence control. I was kind of wondering what i'd do live if I switched guitars like this, but now I know it's not a problem.

What I think is really great about the modules is that they not only sound different, but they play and react differently too. I think one of the bigger differences between the eg5 and erect is also the feel of them, so I can see players being much more at home with one or the others. So even if each module isn't my holy grain, it's great that each module is still a benchmark tone and that we can mix and match :thumbsup:
 
broknstuff":cn36kujl said:
I thought you'd like it richie! So last night i had the house to myself and wanted to relieve some stress. Love it with my singelcut trem too. The mccarty is a darker/thicker guitar with different style pickups, but what I found really great about the mod50 was that instead of going and tweaking each mod I just tweaked the density and presence control. I was kind of wondering what i'd do live if I switched guitars like this, but now I know it's not a problem.

What I think is really great about the modules is that they not only sound different, but they play and react differently too. I think one of the bigger differences between the eg5 and erect is also the feel of them, so I can see players being much more at home with one or the others. So even if each module isn't my holy grain, it's great that each module is still a benchmark tone and that we can mix and match :thumbsup:
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Amen Eggie Brother :D
 
I am sending my EG-5 back for the E-rect. Biggest problem Ihad with the EG-5 was still too thin to my ears no matter what I did. Only thing I liked was how tight it was....but not enough for me to keep it. The E-Rect kills it for a full tone but the lead tone needs some help. I am hoping a boost pedal up front will help.
 
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