Erik Rutan in the studio

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I do think that kind of riffing becomes a muddy, indistinguishable mess when using 7 strings, and that much gain. His riffing is awesome but I think it could sound so much clearer. He's got a nice collection of cabs though that's for sure also he's using 25 watt speakers.
 
It's Interesting to me that he switched to Fishman but at the same time That's a CC Thing.
 
ive had a greenback in my recording 4x12 for years now that for reasons unknown ive never recorded anything with, was just thinking the other day i really gotta spend some time with that speaker, think im gonna mic it up now
 


I do think that kind of riffing becomes a muddy, indistinguishable mess when using 7 strings, and that much gain. His riffing is awesome but I think it could sound so much clearer. He's got a nice collection of cabs though that's for sure also he's using 25 watt speakers.

I love the corpse tones
 
I always knew it was a recto, but didn’t know it was going through that greenback cab. Makes a lot of sense now.


I was thinking the same thing, I’ve watched a lot of his vids over the years and never heard him talk about greenbacks
 
I was thinking the same thing, I’ve watched a lot of his vids over the years and never heard him talk about greenbacks
After watching that video I had to test it… plugged my rev E into my st rock with an old greenback ir and sure as shit, there it was.
 
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I don't think he lo pass filters any of the guitars in the CC recordings. It all has that wall of static high end mess to it, and is very recto sounding. I guess they use duals and triple recto's live and in the studio?? They did one recording with a Mark V, and I think that one had the best clarity to it. I wonder what that album is called? I want to listen to it again.
 
After watching that video I had to test it… plugged my rev E into my st rock with an old greenback ir and sure as shit, there it was.
A big part of that sound is boosting the shit out of those amps and using EMG's I think? They used to use Metal Zones with the level cranked and the drive at 0.
 
I always knew it was a recto, but didn’t know it was going through that greenback cab. Makes a lot of sense now.
But he also uses that OS recto cab with V30's. He probably blends them??
 
I don't think he lo pass filters any of the guitars in the CC recordings. It all has that wall of static high end mess to it, and is very recto sounding. I guess they use duals and triple recto's live and in the studio?? They did one recording with a Mark V, and I think that one had the best clarity to it. I wonder what that album is called? I want to listen to it again.
CC have had far clearer guitar tones and overall production on albums without Rutan producing.
 
A big part of that sound is boosting the shit out of those amps and using EMG's I think? They used to use Metal Zones with the level cranked and the drive at 0.
Yeah, I know that was a live thing. In the studio rutan is pretty big on using his maxon boosts, I know that for a fact.
But he also uses that OS recto cab with V30's. He probably blends them??
I’m not so sure about that anymore after hearing the greenback comment. Greenbacks have a pretty inherent sound, the second I heard that comment I was like yep… that’s the sound on the last several albums. Tone is darker than the earlier stuff. kill, bloodthirst, wretched spawn are very clearly a V30.

I know for a fact pretty much every cannibal album that rutan has been involved in uses two heads. The main tone is always a recto. One of which you mentioned blended with a mark V. The last two both blended with rutans Marshall that he used forever on all the hate eternal stuff.
 
CC have had far clearer guitar tones and overall production on albums without Rutan producing.
True that. Skeletal domain IMO is the best mixed cannibal corpse album to date. Mark lewis did that. Unfortunately, I didn’t dig a ton of the songs on it. Although rutan is clearly not on mark lewis’ level in terms of production and mixing, he does get excellence out of the guys in cannibal corpse and pushes them with their songwriting. He’s helped with a ton of arrangements over the years, which is why he’s a member now.
 
Yeah, I know that was a live thing. In the studio rutan is pretty big on using his maxon boosts, I know that for a fact.

I’m not so sure about that anymore after hearing the greenback comment. Greenbacks have a pretty inherent sound, the second I heard that comment I was like yep… that’s the sound on the last several albums. Tone is darker than the earlier stuff. kill, bloodthirst, wretched spawn are very clearly a V30.

I know for a fact pretty much every cannibal album that rutan has been involved in uses two heads. The main tone is always a recto. One of which you mentioned blended with a mark V. The last two both blended with rutans Marshall that he used forever on all the hate eternal stuff.
Kill was tracked with Pat's old Marshall JCM800 cab(s) w/G12-65s. Wretched and Gore Obsessed were V30s yes, as per Neil Kernon on the old Ultimate Metal forum. Not sure about Bloodthirst (their best tone, album, production, everything IMO) but Pat was still using those 65 loaded Marshall cabs on the Bloodthirst tour. I've looked but been unable to find any Colin Richardson interviews about the production work on Bloodthirst.
 
Yeah, I know that was a live thing. In the studio rutan is pretty big on using his maxon boosts, I know that for a fact.

I’m not so sure about that anymore after hearing the greenback comment. Greenbacks have a pretty inherent sound, the second I heard that comment I was like yep… that’s the sound on the last several albums. Tone is darker than the earlier stuff. kill, bloodthirst, wretched spawn are very clearly a V30.

I know for a fact pretty much every cannibal album that rutan has been involved in uses two heads. The main tone is always a recto. One of which you mentioned blended with a mark V. The last two both blended with rutans Marshall that he used forever on all the hate eternal stuff.
Not the last CC record, but the one before it (Violence Unimagined) has TONS of high end noise/harmonics to it, sounds like they didn't lo-pass it. Makes me think V30's or maybe even T-75's are involved.
 
I've heard Rutan complain before in a vid about Cannibal Corpse' lack of clarity and definition. Makes me think it's more a tonal thing than a mixing problem. Or maybe that's just the way the band members want the records mixed?? With all that extra noise in the guitar tone, and that enormous amount of gain.

Anyone know the name of the record recorded with the Mark V?
 
I've heard Rutan complain before in a vid about Cannibal Corpse' lack of clarity and definition. Makes me think it's more a tonal thing than a mixing problem. Or maybe that's just the way the band members want the records mixed?? With all that extra noise in the guitar tone, and that enormous amount of gain.

Anyone know the name of the record recorded with the Mark V?
Torture. Recto/MK 5 blend. I thought that was one of their mushier tones. At least until Red Before Black. That album was a huge step down in the everything department.
 
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