Federal Judge smack DOGE in the ass GTFO of US Treasury and delete all downloaded content ASAP.

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The~Kid said:
Yeah I mean to be honest it shouldn't be an issue if it's implemented in 2025..... it is 2025 but yeah there is that argument that it kind of limits some ability to vote and have their vote heard.


ImO in either case both folks who hold those different points of views have equitable concerns about voting and well nothing is perfect unfortunately and maybe compromises could be reached or more can be done to keep folks mind at ease about possible voter fraud.


In either case here without voter fraud or voter ID being an issue Trump won, the election went smoothly and well in that sense either side could be content in knowing the system works and well it isn't perfect but it's our system and it should never be taken for granted..... People before us died and stuggled for our right to vote and the freedom to vote and it should never be taken for granted.


One can go to Arlington Cemetary or any memorial and see as far as the eye could see at the tombstones that voting is a sacred right and it should never be taken for granted.



I totally believe and share the same sentiment that voting is probably one of the most sacred rights of a citizen and it shouldn't be taken for granted or misused in any case.
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the whole issue of people not being able to get an ID is BS. I grew up with several black friends from impoverished neighborhoods, and it's insulting to ask if they could get an ID. Or use computers as my governor pointed out. I myself am a minority from a poor background, and it's a strawman IME.
 
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The~Kid said:
Yeah I mean to be honest it shouldn't be an issue if it's implemented in 2025..... it is 2025 but yeah there is that argument that it kind of limits some ability to vote and have their vote heard.


ImO in either case both folks who hold those different points of views have equitable concerns about voting and well nothing is perfect unfortunately and maybe compromises could be reached or more can be done to keep folks mind at ease about possible voter fraud.


In either case here without voter fraud or voter ID being an issue Trump won, the election went smoothly and well in that sense either side could be content in knowing the system works and well it isn't perfect but it's our system and it should never be taken for granted..... People before us died and stuggled for our right to vote and the freedom to vote and it should never be taken for granted.


One can go to Arlington Cemetary or any memorial and see as far as the eye could see at the tombstones that voting is a sacred right and it should never be taken for granted.



I totally believe and share the same sentiment that voting is probably one of the most sacred rights of a citizen and it shouldn't be taken for granted or misused in any case.
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If voting is so sacred and important, would you be for some sort of qualifications or limits required in order to vote? Such as you are a tax payer or own land or have a family, do not receive your pay from taxes, something to that effect?
 
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If voting is so sacred and important, would you be for some sort of qualifications or limits required in order to vote? Such as you are a tax payer or own land or have a family, do not receive your pay from taxes, something to that effect?
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Qualifications and limits make sense within practical a common sense framework.



Not sure if I would say these qualify as common sense or practical but in general it seems like a good practice to have some such standards and standards seem to be in place people just have differences on what is enough or isn't enough.
 
Yeah I really don't get all the BS with DOGE.


Hey all the "experts" and Technocrats in schools and bureaucracy aren't being allowed to do the dumb ass shit they have been doing for years and that is run inefficient, low productive or below efficient extensions of the government that simply haven't been doing their jobs to the best they can or could for years if not decades now.



Pretty much they have been lazy, useless, and producing below standard results with zero answer or accountability to anyone.......



I see nothing wrong with what DOGE is doing and it's something that should have happened on some level long long ago because it just makes common sense. All the "experts" and Technocrats actually have to do a good job and elevate the average persons standard of life and if what they do that for that purpose doesnt do that...... then what the hell are they doing and why the hell are they doing it.


Just take a look at the Department of Education for one and many other facets of government where the "experts" and Technocrats have taken over with lower than average results. The DOE is a prime example of why DOGE even exist, because the way the government has been run and is running is pretty fucking retarded to say the least and a lot of the way these institutions habe been ran are not doing the best or run as best as they could be to improve the standard of life of the average American.




If these institutions aren't doing the best they can to improve standards of living for the average American maybe that's a problem and it makes common sense that they either be reformed or dismantled all together for something that meets the call of todays day and age and the average American and their standard of life.
 
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This doesnt mean that the age of the Technocrat is over or does this mean an end to them either in the 21st century....... they are still needed and always will be......


But the 20th Century version of them and the model of how they ran things is over.......


Elon Musk must represents the modern day Technocrat and is establishing a model for Technocrats in the 21st century. It's a new Era in that sense and a new type of Technocrat.
 
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I mean it's getting pretty ridiculous....... on the other side of the grass to say the least....


Everyday the sky is falling..... the world is imploding..... the sun is setting backwards..... um just all these insane things are happening like imagine something out of a nightmare Wonka invented......


Will there ever be a day the sky isn't turning Polka Dot colored, isn't falling or where everything has to stop to "save the world" or not sure what the hell...... will America know a day the world isn't coming to an end every day for the next 4 years?!?!?!



Meanwhile the average American who can't contemplate half the woke BS the far far left is occupied with still lives a lower standard of life thanks to the last 4 years of complacency with the status quo and pretending everything was great for everyone on average when it wasn't.
 
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I mean not all the last 4 years were a complete waste under the Biden administration being honest.......One thing I will give him credit for is investing in AI and chips being made in America again. Two things will probably decide the next 100 years and beyond or have many don't realize IMO.


1 was the race to develop the Covid19 vaccine, the country that developed it first or as a result of their efforts, in this case America stands a better chance of reamaining the worlds hegemon. That happend under the Trump administration by winning the race to the vaccine ironically.


2 and the final race as of now is the country that develops the best AI stands to remain hegemon for the next 100 years and beyond. Which In a way Biden has done by bringing the manufacturing of computer chips back to America and facilitated Americas current position as the leader of AI in the world.



In that sense both President Trump and Biden played their roles in both these instances and well it's kind of something lost in all the political tribal babble but if you step back and look at it from that perspective it's pretty interesting what's going on in the world today all the politics aside.
 
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