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i used to download.

then i started writing/composing/mixing my own stuff.

then i uninstalled my limewire program, following my adware, spyware, anti-virus, mal-ware..

and decided on purchasing every song ill ever own on CD. 320kbps quality. fuck internet quality and all the virus bullshit. as a musician i have way more respect for an excellent production piece on CD.
 
psychodave":3ilif9z3 said:
Audioholic":3ilif9z3 said:
Hate to be the bad guy, but getting music for free is stealing no matter what this generation things or feels about it. Music is my life and my bread and butter, and I have gained much more appreciation to helping support artists and what not. Lets not let music lose any more value then it already has.

sorry for the rant.


I agree to a point. 99% of the music I download I already bought via cassette tape ( i had 100's)....which are either broken or worn out. I already paid once for the music... ;)

I used to use that argument myself. However, it's flawed and if this were true, when my car gets broken or worn out, I would feel entitled to steal another one.

When I pay for a ticket and see a movie at the theater, later I don't get to walk out of Blockbuster with a free copy of the DVD--claiming I already paid for it a while ago. Or if I buy that DVD and the format becomes obsolete, I don't expect a free copy of the next format.
 
Drew":4tblfyt2 said:
psychodave":4tblfyt2 said:
Audioholic":4tblfyt2 said:
Hate to be the bad guy, but getting music for free is stealing no matter what this generation things or feels about it. Music is my life and my bread and butter, and I have gained much more appreciation to helping support artists and what not. Lets not let music lose any more value then it already has.

sorry for the rant.


I agree to a point. 99% of the music I download I already bought via cassette tape ( i had 100's)....which are either broken or worn out. I already paid once for the music... ;)

I used to use that argument myself. However, it's flawed and if this were true, when my car gets broken or worn out, I would feel entitled to steal another one.

When I pay for a ticket and see a movie at the theater, later I don't get to walk out of Blockbuster with a free copy of the DVD--claiming I already paid for it a while ago. Or if I buy that DVD and the format becomes obsolete, I don't expect a free copy of the next format.
You buy rights to use the music when you buy a CD. That includes copying it into as many formats as you want. As long as you're not distributing it, its perfectly legal to whatever the fuck you want, which includes downloading extra copies of it online. Your argument is flawed, when you buy a car you're not getting into intellectual property rights, totally different situation
 
I think we need to re-educate our selves to what and what we cannot do when it comes to music, distribution, intellectual property rights and what not. Just because you bought a cd, does NOT mean you are entitled to any and all future releases in different formats. Not sure where this idea has come from. The main topic is about downloading and sharing songs, even full albums. This is not right, ethically or legally. support your fellow musicians
 
Drew":18kkpchk said:
psychodave":18kkpchk said:
Audioholic":18kkpchk said:
Hate to be the bad guy, but getting music for free is stealing no matter what this generation things or feels about it. Music is my life and my bread and butter, and I have gained much more appreciation to helping support artists and what not. Lets not let music lose any more value then it already has.

sorry for the rant.


I agree to a point. 99% of the music I download I already bought via cassette tape ( i had 100's)....which are either broken or worn out. I already paid once for the music... ;)

I used to use that argument myself. However, it's flawed and if this were true, when my car gets broken or worn out, I would feel entitled to steal another one.

When I pay for a ticket and see a movie at the theater, later I don't get to walk out of Blockbuster with a free copy of the DVD--claiming I already paid for it a while ago. Or if I buy that DVD and the format becomes obsolete, I don't expect a free copy of the next format.

I'm just thinking out loud here because lord knows I've bought my share of multiple albums on both cassette and then cd (and then digital downloads in some cases) and videos on vhs and then dvd and probably blu-ray in the near future...

BUT....anti-piracy zealots will say out of one side of their mouth that the value of the product is in the blood, sweat, and tears put into it by the artist. If that's the case, then the value has nothing to do with the delivery medium, and I see no reason why the consumer wouldn't be entitled to a new higher-quality delivery medium of a product that they've already paid for, if the real product here is the song/performance.

Or are you saying that the real value in a cd is in the plastic and paper, the way the real value of a car is in the engine and body and frame, etc...???
 
If hasbro comes out with a star wars figure, and then 3 years down the road, they re-release the star wars figure, try going to the store and tell them that you already paid once for the figure, and will be taking this one for free. Or try to tell a store that you bought the beetles on record, and now will be takilng the cd version for free since you already paid for the IP once. Just because you lost your purchased cd, or it broke, or whatever doesn't give you the ability to replace it for free.

it doesn't work that way. and just because you have a cd of an album, doesn't entitle you to get free downloads of the same song forever. Heck, just make yourself an mp3 yourself and load it into i-tunes. The worst though is justifying taking music you didn't pay for free, its flat out stealing, no matter what justification one puts on it, and trust me, I have heard lots of excuses and reasons why its ok.. just because its easy to do it, doesn't make it right. I have to read lots of legal contracts when it comes to music, so I feel I have good insight to IP laws and the legality that follow copyrights and such.

I mean no one is really gonna care though if you make a backup cd of your favorite cd's, as long as you keep them to yourself.
 
Audioholic":3r0m5c4g said:
If hasbro comes out with a star wars figure, and then 3 years down the road, they re-release the star wars figure, try going to the store and tell them that you already paid once for the figure, and will be taking this one for free.

hahahaha

i'm gonna try that sometime
 
Audioholic":bhsvnb20 said:
Or try to tell a store that you bought the beetles on record, and now will be takilng the cd version for free since you already paid for the IP once. Just because you lost your purchased cd, or it broke, or whatever doesn't give you the ability to replace it for free.

it doesn't work that way.

I don't think anybody's arguing that it DOES work that way. We're not stupid. But if the value is in the IP and not in the plastic and paper, then why shouldn't it work that way?

I bought some tracks from iTunes that were their standard 128kbps AAC. Later on they replaced those (for free) with 192kbps AAC files. Seemed perfectly fair and logical to me.

It's a new world when you're talking about what has become a digital commodity. Comparisons to cars and star wars figures don't hold up. Apples and oranges. Even comparisons to physical media delivery of music don't hold up anymore.

IMO of course.
 
ratter":3stxbjyj said:
Audioholic":3stxbjyj said:
Or try to tell a store that you bought the beetles on record, and now will be takilng the cd version for free since you already paid for the IP once. Just because you lost your purchased cd, or it broke, or whatever doesn't give you the ability to replace it for free.

it doesn't work that way.

I don't think anybody's arguing that it DOES work that way. We're not stupid. But if the value is in the IP and not in the plastic and paper, then why shouldn't it work that way?

I bought some tracks from iTunes that were their standard 128kbps AAC. Later on they replaced those (for free) with 192kbps AAC files. Seemed perfectly fair and logical to me.

It's a new world when you're talking about what has become a digital commodity. Comparisons to cars and star wars figures don't hold up. Apples and oranges. Even comparisons to physical media delivery of music don't hold up anymore.

IMO of course.

I'm in total agreement with you Mike.
 
I made that comparison because there were posts about buying the music once, and entitled to getting the same song, or album free for life, thats a misunderstanding.

while the legality and distribution and policing of digital content is still being revised and policed, sure, if you bought something from i-tunes, and they decide to re-release the same song at a higher quality and give their customers who originally bought it for free, thats their choice as a retailer, they originally stilted the quality of the track to begin with as a lower res file. . likewise if you bought a peice of software, and the compnay put out a free updgrade. but that doeesn't mean that if you go to the bands myspace page, and tell them you already bought the song once, that you can download it for free from there, or another online store. Its still retail.

the value is in both the IP, which outlines how and in what manner you can use the IP, protecting the rights of those who created it. for instance, you can't take a song, and drop it into your movie without paying for the right to use it, and going through the proper channells, just because you once bought the song on cd, you cannot sync it in this manner, you were given the right to listen to the music, not distrubute it in any way. and the value is in the material also, which represents one way the rightfully entitled gets to distribute their IP, and a way for retailers to make money as well. This does not mean that just anyone has the right to distrubute IP, whether in digital format or in another way. gotta run, would like to write more.

heck when in doubt, why not sway to the safe side
 
My arrogant take: The world of music is changing. Either get on board or get the fuck out of the way. :D
 
Audioholic":q027uho9 said:
I made that comparison because there were posts about buying the music once, and entitled to getting the same song, or album free for life, thats a misunderstanding.

while the legality and distribution and policing of digital content is still being revised and policed, sure, if you bought something from i-tunes, and they decide to re-release the same song at a higher quality and give their customers who originally bought it for free, thats their choice as a retailer, they originally stilted the quality of the track to begin with as a lower res file. . likewise if you bought a peice of software, and the compnay put out a free updgrade. but that doeesn't mean that if you go to the bands myspace page, and tell them you already bought the song once, that you can download it for free from there, or another online store. Its still retail.

the value is in both the IP, which outlines how and in what manner you can use the IP, protecting the rights of those who created it. for instance, you can't take a song, and drop it into your movie without paying for the right to use it, and going through the proper channells, just because you once bought the song on cd, you cannot sync it in this manner, you were given the right to listen to the music, not distrubute it in any way. and the value is in the material also, which represents one way the rightfully entitled gets to distribute their IP, and a way for retailers to make money as well. This does not mean that just anyone has the right to distrubute IP, whether in digital format or in another way. gotta run, would like to write more.

heck when in doubt, why not sway to the safe side

I guess my point is that there is no more material in the physical sense of the word if you're talking about (legally) downloaded music. So what's left is the IP. What I care about is the $.98 worth of meat, not the $.01 worth of bandwidth that it takes to deliver the meat. Again, in reference to your myspace example or your movie soundtrack example, I understand how things work now and what the laws are for the most part. I just question the logic behind many of them.

What happens for example if an online store decides to make all their tracks available in mongo lossless files. The music didn't get re-recorded. The artist and producer/engineer didn't have to track it again. The store just takes what they've got and makes it available without the compression that they used to use. If I've already bought from them, I don't mind paying to have it re-delivered to me again, but why should I have to pay the full price for the track again? The meat hasn't changed, only the bun. :D

Or if I have a hdd failure and lose music that I've purchased via legal download. Why should I have to do anything but pay for the bandwidth to redownload it? If we're talking iTunes, they'd make me pay the full track price again. But why? They aren't doing anything more for me the second time around other than providing bandwidth.
 
Telephant":14hawa29 said:
My arrogant take: The world of music is changing. Either get on board or get the fuck out of the way. :D


Pretty much. I actually get annoyed when I have to buy something on a physical cd anymore. Like why in the hell in this day and age do I need to wait four days for the mailman to bring me your cd with your sad little folded inkjet insert?? When I could have downloaded it in 30 seconds??

Granted the quality of mp3 is bad and blah blah blah. Everybody has already made the choice of convenience over audio quality. I have, I admit it.
 
Code001":x0tj0xcp said:
Instead of all this back and forth between, "OMGZ0RZ, YOU CAN'T DO THIS," and, "OMGZ0RZ, YES YOU CAN," how about we read the laws regarding the matter?

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html
That explains everything you can and can not do with a copywritten item. Obviously, this only applies to the US.

I don't see anybody arguing what's legal and what isn't...I think most people who are illegally downloading/sharing music know that what they're doing is illegal....
 
ratter":31orfc0p said:
Code001":31orfc0p said:
Instead of all this back and forth between, "OMGZ0RZ, YOU CAN'T DO THIS," and, "OMGZ0RZ, YES YOU CAN," how about we read the laws regarding the matter?

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html
That explains everything you can and can not do with a copywritten item. Obviously, this only applies to the US.

I don't see anybody arguing what's legal and what isn't...I think most people who are illegally downloading/sharing music know that what they're doing is illegal....

But you guys are. People are bringing up the rights we have regarding copywritten digital material. The document talks about the legality of having multiple copies, encoding, changing formats, and all that good stuff regarding music.
 
Code001":35pptt2t said:
ratter":35pptt2t said:
Code001":35pptt2t said:
Instead of all this back and forth between, "OMGZ0RZ, YOU CAN'T DO THIS," and, "OMGZ0RZ, YES YOU CAN," how about we read the laws regarding the matter?

http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html
That explains everything you can and can not do with a copywritten item. Obviously, this only applies to the US.

I don't see anybody arguing what's legal and what isn't...I think most people who are illegally downloading/sharing music know that what they're doing is illegal....

But you guys are. People are bringing up the rights we have regarding copywritten digital material. The document talks about the legality of having multiple copies, encoding, changing formats, and all that good stuff regarding music.

Well I can only speak for myself - I'm not arguing about what the laws are. I'm talking about what I think the laws should be.
 
try bitenova.nl
it;s bit torrent, it's cool. and virus free. but alot of register here for passwords.
just delete 'um.
 
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