Friedman BE100 Deluxe is finally here

Racerxrated":1jlmbz0v said:
RaceU4her":1jlmbz0v said:
Racerxrated":1jlmbz0v said:
aftec":1jlmbz0v said:
RaceU4her":1jlmbz0v said:
everything in this vid sounds like muffled shit to me :dunno:

Those Chinese earbuds sound like shit for sure :lol: :LOL:
I get the same ‘muffled’ or ‘blanket over the speaker’ effect as well through my powered monitors?




watching again now and i see he has his presence on 0 in parts and the bass and thump way up on the BE channel, not sure what that is about but maybe some normal settings would help
Ugh. No way to dial in a Marshall circuit imo. No wonder it sounds like the earlier dark and darker BE 100s. I remember the Akira vid, Loudness gp with a 2016 BE? Now THAT was an aggressive sounding demo.



this is one of my favorite vids and usually the video i use to describe the tone im hearing in my head, guess i was expecting more of this kind of sound than what im hearing in the OP vid.

 
RACKSYSTEMS":1y9v8a1u said:
You can’t fucking win... amp was recorded for the common listening source these days.. iPhone,ipad laptop, computer speakers etc... really this is what the vast majority of people listen on.. of course it can get aggressive and bright.. if I dial it that then you get complaints it sounds like shit when someone listens on a iPhone.. maybe I’ll do a video comparing it to a plexi and a 800 and 800 boosted and not tell anyone what is what...

OUCH!!!
 
It's a really good demo! And some of the settings people said they saw, I saw differently.

Fact: Friedman amps are aggressive: not just the Slax. Move on...

Look, at the end of the day, if you want to know what an amp sounds, plays, and feels like, you gotta play the fucking amp: that simple. If I hear a shitty clip I don't like, I move on. If I hear shitty clips of a good to amazing amp I KNOW sounds great (TO MY EARS) because i've played it, I'll say, "well, I think that's a shitty clip!" and move on.

At one point, not too long ago, I put too much emphasis on clips... I don't anymore. There's always a variance. I've had many amps in the last 7 years and lost some money doing flips, but it was worth it because I could judge the amp and brand based on what my ears hard, not a clip.

I loved Reza's videos, but never liked the sound as much on his clips as I dug his play and walk through. Yup, you can't please everyone.

Dave's amps are what they are: you dig 'em or you don't. You can't base it off of a clip.
 
RaceU4her":xxomdrg6 said:
Racerxrated":xxomdrg6 said:
RaceU4her":xxomdrg6 said:
Racerxrated":xxomdrg6 said:
aftec":xxomdrg6 said:
RaceU4her":xxomdrg6 said:
everything in this vid sounds like muffled shit to me :dunno:

Those Chinese earbuds sound like shit for sure :lol: :LOL:
I get the same ‘muffled’ or ‘blanket over the speaker’ effect as well through my powered monitors?




watching again now and i see he has his presence on 0 in parts and the bass and thump way up on the BE channel, not sure what that is about but maybe some normal settings would help
Ugh. No way to dial in a Marshall circuit imo. No wonder it sounds like the earlier dark and darker BE 100s. I remember the Akira vid, Loudness gp with a 2016 BE? Now THAT was an aggressive sounding demo.



this is one of my favorite vids and usually the video i use to describe the tone im hearing in my head, guess i was expecting more of this kind of sound than what im hearing in the OP vid.

+1 I know opinions vary but if this is to dark sounding I cant imagine it being brighter. This is as good as it gets , ymmv
 
RACKSYSTEMS":1z1gtuse said:
You can’t fucking win... amp was recorded for the common listening source these days.. iPhone,ipad laptop, computer speakers etc... really this is what the vast majority of people listen on.. of course it can get aggressive and bright.. if I dial it that then you get complaints it sounds like shit when someone listens on a iPhone.. maybe I’ll do a video comparing it to a plexi and a 800 and 800 boosted and not tell anyone what is what...

Sounds great to me! There will always be critics.

:rock: :rock: :rock:
 
Sounds great to me! I am close to picking up Friedman something or other. Not one of those though. I can only wish for that.
 
Junk Yard Dog":ugijbvva said:
It's a really good demo! And some of the settings people said they saw, I saw differently.

Fact: Friedman amps are aggressive: not just the Slax. Move on...

Look, at the end of the day, if you want to know what an amp sounds, plays, and feels like, you gotta play the fucking amp: that simple. If I hear a shitty clip I don't like, I move on. If I hear shitty clips of a good to amazing amp I KNOW sounds great (TO MY EARS) because i've played it, I'll say, "well, I think that's a shitty clip!" and move on.

At one point, not too long ago, I put too much emphasis on clips... I don't anymore. There's always a variance. I've had many amps in the last 7 years and lost some money doing flips, but it was worth it because I could judge the amp and brand based on what my ears hard, not a clip.

I loved Reza's videos, but never liked the sound as much on his clips as I dug his play and walk through. Yup, you can't please everyone.

Dave's amps are what they are: you dig 'em or you don't. You can't base it off of a clip.
True..my suggestion though would be to do a demo with different settings, for a few minute apiece..that way you could have a brighter example, middle of the road settings and a darker example, and a scooped metal example. No fx, just dry straight in. Then a clean channel demo. That's gonna cover most of our differences in tonal preference.
And for the record, I've had 2 BE 100s and liked them both..one was an early one, handwired version (when metro guys helped Dave put them together) and had a switch mod to make it more open and raw. Sounded killer.
Ultimately GAS forced the sale...but I do think they are great amps. Just not a fan of that demo. I have enough friends on this forum that SWEAR by the BE 50 that I'm sure the 100 is a killer machine.
 
Junk Yard Dog":1o55bs7o said:
Dave's amps are what they are: you dig 'em or you don't. You can't base it off of a clip.

This pretty much!

I think its hilarious when people judge an amp, or any gear, from clips :hys: They are fun to listen to and useful to a degree in painting a broad picture of a particular piece of gear, but to give your impressions of an amp based on a clip.... :hys:
 
I think it sounds killer! This is a great vid but like others have mentioned, need to hear it in person to get the full effect. I just got a JJ Jr. and love it! The sound I heard in the demos online were great, but hearing it at Sweetwater Ampfest was a totally different thing.

I have played a BE 100 in person and now have the JJ Jr. You could crank every knob and you are not going to get a bad tone in there. Like I mentioned years ago, the Friedman EQ is much more narrow than alot of other amps. What I mean by that is it is like they cut off frequencies at the top and bottom that suck ass. Throughout my years as a guitar player, I'd have amps where anything above 2 o'clock sounded harsh and boomy. I like that Friedman amps are usable completely around the dial.
 
romanianreaper":17khete7 said:
I think it sounds killer! This is a great vid but like others have mentioned, need to hear it in person to get the full effect. I just got a JJ Jr. and love it! The sound I heard in the demos online were great, but hearing it at Sweetwater Ampfest was a totally different thing.

I have played a BE 100 in person and now have the JJ Jr. You could crank every knob and you are not going to get a bad tone in there. Like I mentioned years ago, the Friedman EQ is much more narrow than alot of other amps. What I mean by that is it is like they cut off frequencies at the top and bottom that suck ass. Throughout my years as a guitar player, I'd have amps where anything above 2 o'clock sounded harsh and boomy. I like that Friedman amps are usable completely around the dial.

This. I love that there's a full range of variability on each knob of his amps.
 
MetalHeadMike":21wrqnhj said:
Junk Yard Dog":21wrqnhj said:
Dave's amps are what they are: you dig 'em or you don't. You can't base it off of a clip.

This pretty much!

I think its hilarious when people judge an amp, or any gear, from clips :hys: They are fun to listen to and useful to a degree in painting a broad picture of a particular piece of gear, but to give your impressions of an amp based on a clip.... :hys:
I don't think anyone is judging the amp....just the demo. We all know the amp is killer, based on the reviews of the BE 50. Just change the EQ a bit during the demo, to show the different tones that it can produce.
That's all.
:dunno:
 
RACKSYSTEMS":u6rsple7 said:
You can’t fucking win... amp was recorded for the common listening source these days.. iPhone,ipad laptop, computer speakers etc... really this is what the vast majority of people listen on.. of course it can get aggressive and bright.. if I dial it that then you get complaints it sounds like shit when someone listens on a iPhone.. maybe I’ll do a video comparing it to a plexi and a 800 and 800 boosted and not tell anyone what is what...
I listened to it again, honestly it still sounds good to me. I'm curious does the be100 dlx have as much gain as the Butterslax?
 
RACKSYSTEMS":3kartxw2 said:
You can’t fucking win... amp was recorded for the common listening source these days.. iPhone,ipad laptop, computer speakers etc... really this is what the vast majority of people listen on.. of course it can get aggressive and bright.. if I dial it that then you get complaints it sounds like shit when someone listens on a iPhone.. maybe I’ll do a video comparing it to a plexi and a 800 and 800 boosted and not tell anyone what is what...
Dave, I’d be happy to make another IPhone clip for you like I did for the BE50 that’s on your website. Only problem is I’d need an amp. ;)
 
RACKSYSTEMS":3e1z3njv said:
You can’t fucking win... amp was recorded for the common listening source these days.. iPhone,ipad laptop, computer speakers etc... really this is what the vast majority of people listen on.. of course it can get aggressive and bright.. if I dial it that then you get complaints it sounds like shit when someone listens on a iPhone.. maybe I’ll do a video comparing it to a plexi and a 800 and 800 boosted and not tell anyone what is what...
Dude, all you do is win.
Couple of people maybe don't appreciate but in the meantime you're selling a shit ton of amps.
You've worked your ass off Dave and you deserve it.
All I want to see from you now is some Friedman tubes. Give us some solid modern day winged C's.
And maybe some preamps à la Tungsrams.
Take our money!
 
I prefer LP Freaks demos better than any of this guys demos. They always sound like cab emulated recordings. The reality is that you can make most amps sound good in a production environment. Just another opinion of preferring in room recordings for amp demos
 
scottosan":1xd4shc7 said:
I prefer LP Freaks demos better than any of this guys demos. They always sound like cab emulated recordings. The reality is that you can make most amps sound in a production environment. Just another opinion of preferring in room recordings for amp demos
Agreed. His 74 Marshall, Germino and Friedman demos all sounded very good to my ears.
:rock:
 
Racerxrated":35f7prqn said:
Just change the EQ a bit during the demo, to show the different tones that it can produce.
That's all.
:dunno:



unless i missed it maybe say what cab and speakers are being used as well? mic? pickups? i checked the youtube description and didnt see anything there
 
I would like to go and try one locally in Austin, if anyone has any idea of who might be selling them here. I went to the GC here and they told me online order only... I am considering trading in a amp and matching cab at GC for it. Can anyone comment if they have done a trade and order at GC?
 
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