Gibson buys Mesa Boogie

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Gibson is making their best guitars ever currently IMO; I'm sure this will all work out fine
 
I saw a couple Boogie things in the press release pic that I hadn't seen before. Anybody know what these are?

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Those amps are odd prototypes, both a power amp and a preamp from the Mark II days. The amber pilot lights, knobs and toggle switches are from that era.
A little chummy for cov19, no? I'm hugging no one. %$*& that %^*&
 
Old bass amp designs.

Not plywood...Snake Skin Tolex, but they probably would have benefitted from a high resolution picture...lol.
Ah. That makes sense. Yeah, I can see the snakeskin now that you point that out. Sorry for the noob comment :LOL:

Serious question, is your signature new or have I see that sig before? Just coincidental?
 
It’s weird, I’ve actually being playing Gibson into primarily Mesa’s now for 10 years (always have at least one Marshall though) but this still does not appeal to me at all. I’m a poster child for the merger with my gear but I’m against it.. ?‍♂️
 
I'll keep an open mind but this is going to take some getting use to!

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I'll keep an open mind but this is going to take some getting use to!

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I feel you. But as some others said, recently Gibson seems to be making things better instead of worse.
My recent Kramer SM-1 is in no way comparable to MusicYo days of Kramer, when they were only cranking out cheap, underwhelming firewood.

But I will say, having gone through this myself, I hope for M/B's sake that they can keep their small-ish workplace identity/atmosphere instead of being force-fed the corporate BS of the bigger fish that bought you.
Sometimes the bigger party in an M&A doesn't seem to realise that the reason they bought the smaller company, was because they were doing something well already and making money, but if you throw in some big corp 'grease', you may end up slowing down the machine instead of lubing it up to run even better.
 
Sometimes the bigger party in an M&A doesn't seem to realize that the reason they bought the smaller company, was because they were doing something well already and making money, but if you throw in some big corp 'grease', you may end up slowing down the machine instead of lubing it up to run even better.

What I've seen happen more often, and maybe is even more damaging, is when corporate starts taking some $$ away from Peter to help out Paul.
Ex: Mesa's solid net profits start being used to pump up a lesser performing brand(s), instead of putting it back into Mesa R&D and support.
 
What I've seen happen more often, and maybe is even more damaging, is when corporate starts taking some $$ away from Peter to help out Paul.
Ex: Mesa's solid net profits start being used to pump up a lesser performing brand(s), instead of putting it back into Mesa R&D and support.
Heck, been there, done that!

A larger umbrella company, that already had some 'sickly children' under their wings, bought my former employer, that was doing really well (double digit organic growth every year with almost 0 attrition or firings) and thought "you know what, YOU guys take care of these smaller, struggling ones. Yes, that means some of your top-engineers will have to do grunt work in an already losing battle". And indeed, this didn't help at all.
Instead of cutting their losses and selling off one of those smaller, struggling companies, they basically 'infected' a healthy company.
I'm sure the big shots and spreadsheet warriors see this differently, but after that, over maybe 1,5 to 2 years, there was 1/3rd of all personnel leaving (and some firings). Newsflash, that ain't a good sign. But the newly appointed CEO didn't seem to grasp that.
 
The founders are ready to sail into the sunset.. At least the company taking over is a company that handle music gear.
But it's the designs that will eventually suffer.. Also, somehow they will cut cost's that will make the product less robust.

I remember in the early days one of their amps fell off the back of a truck, and all they did was replace the smashed tubes and the amp fired right up. They used that as an advertisement of the reliability of their product.
 
But it's the designs that will eventually suffer.. Also, somehow they will cut costs
They've already done that.
At least up to a certain point.
Everyone who has played a:
Mark III vs Mark V
Stiletto vs TC
Mark I / II vs Fillmore/California Tweed etc. You get the idea..
There was something different in the sound. I don't know what it is but it's there alright.
 
Ah. That makes sense. Yeah, I can see the snakeskin now that you point that out. Sorry for the noob comment :LOL:

Serious question, is your signature new or have I see that sig before? Just coincidental?

No worries! Not a noob comment at all! I had to look at it a little harder to figure out what I was looking at!

My sig is old. I haven’t changed it in years. Partially because I can’t pull my old images from the dumpster fire that is Photobucket. I think I had a similar sig on the old Boogie forum.
 
Update

Mesa closes store on Sunset Blvd? Not sure when this happened but it just popped up on my Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier feed :(

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Man oh man. The beginning of the end ! So sad... ?
 
Pretty sure they closed at some point in 2020. I remember seeing it on TGP, but I could be wrong.
 
Pretty sure they closed at some point in 2020. I remember seeing it on TGP, but I could be wrong.
They were like Wildwoods and other stores, closed for Covid but taking online or phone orders. I bought from them in 2020 and was having emails with the lone store manager/employee in 2021. He only worked 3 days a week.

Sad day.
 
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