glpg80
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I hope Dimarzio wins. This is BS.
https://guitar.com/news/industry-ne...IIynuIs_ltxdgXD1i43AxPwhLfUZJEe5YvTUvF1fNX5s0
https://guitar.com/news/industry-ne...IIynuIs_ltxdgXD1i43AxPwhLfUZJEe5YvTUvF1fNX5s0
Unacceptablenorm
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Fuck Gibson.
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Wayniac3
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Maybe Gibson should concentrate on quality control.
Having said that, I'd love if Seymour Duncan could issue a double cream without DiMarzio breaking their balls.
Having said that, I'd love if Seymour Duncan could issue a double cream without DiMarzio breaking their balls.
Ben Waylin
Banned
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Anyone can make pickups with two cream-colored bobbins.. they just can't call it "double cream".
Seymour will be releasing the "Cream Pie" humbucker soon.
napalmdeath
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Gibson's been showing off a few newer models with double creams.
thegame
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What’s next? Going after coffee establishments for offering double cream?
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Candiria
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Those things shouldn't be trademarks anyway. They're too general.
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The One
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No. They will Sue Peter North.
thegame
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The lesbian only porn niche industry welcomes its newest star, Sue Peteroria North. It must’ve been a very lengthy operation.
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JackBootedThug
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Peter north….that mofo could shampoo a water buffalo
scottosan
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I’m biased the but the double cream trademark is BS. Double cream was used by Gibson long before Larry the patent wh@re came along. Black and cream where really to 2 main options for for bobbins. This isn’t a custom color like Ferrari Red or John Deer Green. There’s plenty of red cars and plenty of green tractors not made by Ferrari or John Deer that don’t infringe on those trademarks. There’s nothing unique about cream bobbins.
thegame
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Early on, that service was only offered to bulls. Then, cows only.
shodan5000
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What? Was Dimarzio not playing authentic?
skoora
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I think they’ve been calling it vintage white for now. I don’t care about Gibson on this but the Trademarks on a generic established color and an acronym that literally means no patent yet, it’s pretty stupid that they were granted, but also stupid that Gibson didn’t fight it then. It may play in Dimarzio’s favor that they’ve had them for so long?
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SpiderWars
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And just to be clear, Gibson isn’t trying to take those trademarks as their own but rather just making them public domain. So with that in mind, I hope Gibson wins.
Also, my understanding is that the Dimarzio patent/trademark/whatever actually IS for the color. Just calling it something else still infringes upon it. Someone correct me if it’s wrong but I thought that was the case.
If so it’s kind of funny because how close is too close in color? Even Seymour Duncan 50mm cream bobbins are (or were) a different color than their 53mm cream bobbins. edit: and neither are the same color as Dimarzio cream bobbins.
I’d rather have Parchment anyway.
Also, my understanding is that the Dimarzio patent/trademark/whatever actually IS for the color. Just calling it something else still infringes upon it. Someone correct me if it’s wrong but I thought that was the case.
If so it’s kind of funny because how close is too close in color? Even Seymour Duncan 50mm cream bobbins are (or were) a different color than their 53mm cream bobbins. edit: and neither are the same color as Dimarzio cream bobbins.
I’d rather have Parchment anyway.
rsm
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Dean gets a temporary break from another incoming Gibson lawsuit?
rsm
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"The brand (Gibson) is arguing that the marks have become generic after years of use across the industry."
I think other brands should argue that marks such as Les Paul, SG, ES335, L-5, etc., have become generic after years of use across the industry.
I think other brands should argue that marks such as Les Paul, SG, ES335, L-5, etc., have become generic after years of use across the industry.
technomancer
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The knee jerk Gibson hate is strong...
This is a GOOD thing trying to overturn a trademark that should have never been granted and that DiMarzio has actually used against small pickup winders before. Hopefully Gibson wins this one.
Speeddemon
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Agreed. But I do wonder if Gibson will open a can o' worms, if they win this case, because it would set precedent for other 'terms/things/shapes so long in use they've become public'.
I mean, if DiMarzio can't patent/trademark a specific bobbin color, why should other companies be able to trademark an 'open book' headstock look, that's been around for 70+ years, right?
Devil's advocate: the open book headstock was Gibson's design to begin with and double cream bobbins existed before ol' Larry went all Gene Simmons on it...
And while parchment is a good color, especially for Strats, it falls short of the 'correct' cream you're looking for in certain humbucker equipped guitars like a Les Paul.
Oh, and the color changes on Dimarzio themselves too.
Look at my ol' Hamer Vector XT;
2 Super Distortions in there; one of them a 70's Dual Sound. The neck pickup clearly is more yellow/darker.
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