Give me some COD hype...GNR welcome too!

[crankyrayhanky]

Background:
I'm a Randall mts guy- lots of modded units from Pete, Salvation, DF, VooDoo
I have a dual EG5 that I only hear channel A- I have a love/less than love relationship with the EG5- it has a great rhythm growl, but sometimes I feel it has something- maybe in the upper midrange?- that I don't like. Perhaps a promod would cure this...well I tried selling it off but surprisingly received zero interest, even at a low price. Rather than go lower, I may just keep it- now thinking maybe I will go dual mod on my rm100, or wait out for the E2...The EG5 is clearly better than any stock Randall mod, but compared to Pete and Salvation, it takes a back seat

If I do go the dual route, I may jump on a COD- it may cover a tone I don't already have. What I need is some Egnater feedback on this mod to push me into a full GAS frenzy! If you're loving the GNR mod, feel free to give me that too!

I imagine the GNR is guns and roses- JCM800? The COD doesn't have any clips anywhere, any detail review would be great

I know I'm all over the map here, it's how my GAS impulsive brain operates

Thanks!

Ray

 

[jkdsteve]

Man i'd happily lend you my COD but am not sure you'd get the full impact of it only being able to hear the lower gain channel A.

It's not really covered anywhere in the Randall lineup...Tweed w/pedal might be closest (?) but I like the COD and wasn't a fan of the Tweed when ya pushed the gain.

 

[guitarslinger]

There's nothing like the COD.

You might not like it.

I had to grow into it a little bit. Now, I can't live without it.

It almost sounds like a Violin or something. Amazing, compressed, smooth nature. Nothing else in the MTS lineup sounds anything like it.

I would buy one if I were you.

 

[jmgman69]

There's nothing like the COD.

You might not like it.

I had to grow into it a little bit. Now, I can't live without it.

It almost sounds like a Violin or something. Amazing, compressed, smooth nature. Nothing else in the MTS lineup sounds anything like it.

I would buy one if I were you.

Yes,yes and yes!!!Cod is like no other module!Gnr is the best of the modded SL2 stuff I've had to date period!

 

[jkdsteve]

Anyone else ever compare the COD to an Ultra Lead?

TO me, the Randall UL latter is smoother and more compressed...COD is way more open and grittier sounding...I wish the EQ on the COD did more

 

[guitarslinger]

Yes,yes and yes!!!Cod is like no other module!Gnr is the best of the modded SL2 stuff I've had to date period!

I have you to thank for letting me borrow your COD.

BTW, I added a 1000pF cap to the tube board on mine. It turned it into a smooth dark machine.

Also, the GNR is currently my favorite Rhythm module. Ch A sounds just like the opening intro to Night Train! Ch B sounds like Freakin' Dokken and shit.
LOL

Right now, my M4 lineup is

T/D
COD (cap modded)
GNR
Rotating lineup (SL, VX, EG5, EG 3/4)

 

[jkdsteve]

<double oops! >

 

[jkdsteve]

Yes,yes and yes!!!Cod is like no other module!Gnr is the best of the modded SL2 stuff I've had to date period!

I have you to thank for letting me borrow your COD.

BTW, I added a 1000pF cap to the tube board on mine. It turned it into a smooth dark machine.

I need to do that cap mod...the COD is way too bright for me..thanks for the tip !

 

[guitarslinger]

Yes,yes and yes!!!Cod is like no other module!Gnr is the best of the modded SL2 stuff I've had to date period!

I have you to thank for letting me borrow your COD.

BTW, I added a 1000pF cap to the tube board on mine. It turned it into a smooth dark machine.

I need to do that cap mod...the COD is way too bright for me..thanks for the tip !

prepare to have your life changed!

 

[RockStarNick]

Also, the GNR is currently my favorite Rhythm module. Ch A sounds just like the opening intro to Night Train!

Couldn't have said it better myself. Precisely what Ch A sounds like. The whole "appetite for desctruction" guitar sound didn't have alot of lows at all. It was all in the upper mid crunch. That's where the GNR excels.

COD, to me, sounds like a tube-screamer into a vintage fender amp. Except more tubey, because it's all tube, of course. It's light on the lows, but still has great detail and singing mids.

 

[mboogman]

I absolutely love my COD. My problem is that since I have a Mod50, I only get two modules at a time, and also absolutely love my EG5. I decided to live without a "clean" module, which has been the T/D, and just dial the gain back on the A side of the COD for my "clean" sound. It's been working really well. I now have the great crunch form the A side of the EG5 with gain about 11:00, very controllable, and the great high gain of channel B. My issue with the EG5 was that I was always wanting a little smoother tone for leads. Now I've got it all, because the COD is probably for me, the ideal lead tone. Singing, liquid, smoothness! The A side of the COD with the gain around 9:00 or so, also give some great "fat clean" solo tones for me. Especially when I add a little boost to it from my Menatone Top Boost in a Can! Gilmour all the way!

 

[jmgman69]

Yes,yes and yes!!!Cod is like no other module!Gnr is the best of the modded SL2 stuff I've had to date period!

I have you to thank for letting me borrow your COD.

BTW, I added a 1000pF cap to the tube board on mine. It turned it into a smooth dark machine.

Also, the GNR is currently my favorite Rhythm module. Ch A sounds just like the opening intro to Night Train! Ch B sounds like Freakin' Dokken and shit.
LOL

Right now, my M4 lineup is

T/D
COD (cap modded)
GNR
Rotating lineup (SL, VX, EG5, EG 3/4)

That is exactly what's in my M4 and nothing rarely moves The Mod 100 is VX,GnR and EG5 I could easily live with those three and a T/D

 

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[destratification]

I love the COD module too but I've been thinking about contacting Jeff to see if there is anyway to mod it slightly - maybe you guys have some input as to what I'm after as well...

I haven't even played this with humbuckers yet but what I'm after is a little bit "rounder" attack - if that makes sense (maybe like the T/D but with the COD's gain, saturation and compression?). I'm playing primarily with strats going for that dumble-like tone but the attack of individual notes is a little too hard. I've listened to some of the Ceriatone Overtone demos on youtube and that's a good example of what I'm after. I'm wondering if there is a mod to achieve this sonic difference? Haven't had the $ purchase tubes to try the 5751 tube in V1 as suggested by many - maybe that would make the tone 'roll' a little more?

 

[bscfo1]

I love the COD module too but I've been thinking about contacting Jeff to see if there is anyway to mod it slightly - maybe you guys have some input as to what I'm after as well...

I haven't even played this with humbuckers yet but what I'm after is a little bit "rounder" attack - if that makes sense (maybe like the T/D but with the COD's gain, saturation and compression?). I'm playing primarily with strats going for that dumble-like tone but the attack of individual notes is a little too hard. I've listened to some of the Ceriatone Overtone demos on youtube and that's a good example of what I'm after. I'm wondering if there is a mod to achieve this sonic difference? Haven't had the $ purchase tubes to try the 5751 tube in V1 as suggested by many - maybe that would make the tone 'roll' a little more?

This quote really sums up my love/hate relationship with the COD. I too play mostly strats, and they can sound really harsh through the COD. But you can smooth it out by using your ears and not you eyes when you EQ it. With a 5751 in V1, you can make channel A clean by using very little gain and diming the module volume.

You'll also have to lower the mids and cut the highs because they seem to add gain too. Also the highs make it harsh and the mids will make it sound honky. Bad for a nice bouncy clean sound. But once the clean sounds nice, channel B will sound good, but a little thin because those mids are missing. So you compromise.

What I've done is giving up on it being clean and EQ'd it for what is was designed for. You'll be more happy going for that Boogie or Dumble type tone that you hear on those Ceriatones. You just won't like the clean sound. My settings for my strat using a 2x12 cab are:

Bright - 1
Bass boost - 0
Bass - 10:00
Mids - 4:00
Treble - 8:00
Channel A gain - 12:00
Channel B gain - 1:00
Presense - 9:00
Density - 9:00

Try it with or without the bright on 1. I still cut the treble, but using the bright switch and cutting the treble just sounded better to my ears. Don't know why. Jurys still out on this one, but I like it because I can make it sound like my Mesa Mark IV pretty easily. It's just so different from everything else I have. I like that. Hope that helps, good luck.

 

[guitarslinger]

SOLDER A 1000pF CAP INTO C2.

You'll thank me later (guys who think the COD is bright)

 

[jlbaxe]

I use the COD for Gilmour tones, SRVish and Clapton blues tone. I get my best tones with a MIA Deluxe Strat SSH. It luvs the neck pickup.

 

[destratification]

Hey thanks for the feedback, bscfo1. I'll definitely try to work the settings more and experiment with yours too as a starting point. I'm finding this issue only with my strat(s)... played last night with my les paul with SD59 humbuckers and couldn't stop playing...

gotta get me some 5751s (for several modules...)

thanks,
dan

 

[bscfo1]

Hey thanks for the feedback, bscfo1. I'll definitely try to work the settings more and experiment with yours too as a starting point. I'm finding this issue only with my strat(s)... played last night with my les paul with SD59 humbuckers and couldn't stop playing...

gotta get me some 5751s (for several modules...)

thanks,
dan

Dan,
No problem, I hope those settings work for your strat. I should mention that the settings are for an overall good tone with all of the pickups. Some of the users on this forum might EQ for just a specific pickup I think. You could try that too, especially if you tend to stay on the neck pickup for your strat for example. It's pretty easy to get a good tone on that one with the COD because its got some girth.

Like you said, the COD is easier to dial in with humbuckers. My SG has no problem getting that singing Larry Carlton type lead tone. I mentioned the clean sound earlier because I've found that the 5751's do cut some of the gain back, and I needed another clean/overdrive type module. Not sure if you did too. But these tubes don't seem to tame the harshness you can get with single coils. And you'll have to compromise one of the channels because one setting doesn't work with the other.

Just go for a overdrive rhythm in A, and your lead tone in B. When I did that, I was happy with both channels, no compromise. I don't think the guys designed the COD with a pristine clean in mind. I just roll the volume back in A and use the bridge or bridge/middle pickup for clean.

Get the 5751's anyway, you can use them in a lot of the modules. I have them in my VX and COD. -Bill

 

[jakeddy]

Jeff told me my GnR will be done this week.