Good Diezel for metal.

[White_Van]

Be sure to check out the Einstein, with and without a boost it can get hella heavy.

 

[flownomis]

Be sure to check out the Einstein, with and without a boost it can get hella heavy.

amen. i played it against a dual recto and the einstein was more brutal and defined. with the deep and presence poti you can incorporate the sound into something really heavy.

 

[synchu]

^Spot on

"Use the Presence, my young apprentice..." (last night watched "The Empire Strikes Back" for 198231823 time - you know that this movie is the "true metalheads movie", don't you?).

 

[kunfi]

Einstein with an EQ on loop, and a boost can go very loud.

 

[Lexicon Devil]

I have a VH-4, and I can definately say that it will do metal with great ease. The real question, though is what type of metal do you want to play?

THe VH-4 is very tight and very focused. Channel 3 will deliver early VH tones, and modified Marshall late 80's LA Hair metal tones, but with more bottom end chunk and a much tighter focus, with more gain on tap.

Channel 4 will give you really knarly, fuzzed out, compressed death metal tones, albeit with very tight focus and lots of bottom end.

Channel 2 will yield heavy bottomed early Marshall style tones, again with very tight focus.

If you're looking to play sludge/ stoner metal like Sleep, you can still use a VH-4, with caveat that it will NOT have the loose and juicy damping that an old Orange or Matamp will deliver.

Although I've not tried the other models, other people say that the Einstein is a little bit loose than a VH-4, and a Herbert is looser still.

 

[petereanima]

you can't go wrong with any of the diezels for metal.

or rock.

or blues.

or "tone" in general.

but for the real deep chuggachugga i'd prefer the herbert. altough its just the little nuance more than the VH4 - i'd love to have them both, but only had the money for one.

 

[hairychris444]

for metal...herbert is the best amp you can get. the einstein is cool but would be more of a rock/80's metal amp. if you're looking to chug the herbert is the way to go...or the vh4 is also great for this.

no way, this is a fucking rumour that started to spread around the net.einstein is a modern beast.
its a fucking DIEZEL. no 80s marshall. i hate this oppinion because itf fucking wrong, i dont say a porsche is more for driving 30 because it can drive 30.

+98734295

The Einstein does modern high gain tones. It doesn't have the depth that the Herbert has, but is, if anything, even more responsive to how you play. I prefer the voicing of the Einstein over that of the VH4. It's also cool because it's simple. And, as I posted before, it destroys the Mesa Dual Rectifier which I assume people class as a modern amp...

 

[guitarman967]

I might be the only one that prefers the VH4. I owned a Herbert at the same time and liked the VH4 slightly better. I do boost it with a tubescreamer to add some aggression and slice, I've done this with every amp I've owned. I just really dig the tightness and unique punch it has. Seems to have more going on in the mids which suits my style well. Both are great!

I've owned both and I prefer the VH4 for metal playing...
It seems to be overlooked because the Herbert is marketed as the "metal amp"
The lowend on the Herb, is way to loose for any type of metal I'd want to play though

 

[sden]

Every time a discussion arises which deals with "which Diezel for ... " All VH4 guys jump in, saying nothing compares..., all Herbert do so, and all Einstein users defend their amp. For me this means they are all great amps! You can`'t be wrong, but if you have the chance, of course try it.
Beside from the amp discussions, every then and now one guy jumps in the ring (in this case, me ) claiming that of course a lot of the sound is done by the guitar and the pickups, so if you want "that sound" it would of course need also these ingrediants. I'm writing this cause I didn't get a huge metal sound out of my Einstein. Very good, but not huge. I changed the Pickups in PRS and ups. It blows. So to close the excurse: Einstein delivers