How about some Rebel 30 Love

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Ya know I go around to a lot of forums and read about all the problems the egnater rebel 30 has had and I think is it all bad or is it just that every amp has it’s problems. So I decided to start a thread about those of us that love our rebel 30. I have been playing mine now for 6mts and I just can’t get over the versatility of this amp. I can honestly say my search for now is over for an all around great amp. The rebel 30 has those nice cleans that shimmer along with enough gain to rock your ass off. Add to the mix an amp that you have 6v6 and el84 tones what more can you ask for. Well there is more, I always thought my classic 30 was the best and most pedal friendly amp around that is until I found the rebel 30. No mater what pedal I put in front of the amp on in the loop it sounds great. So for all of those out there putting this amp down for it’s problems I say get real any tube amp will have it’s faults but overall the rebel is one hell of an amp.
 
was the Rebel 30 updated?
got this off tgp

"Update:
I did not get any additional information in 9 days from Egnater and I was at my 3rd Rebel 30, now a head model. All of the 3 R30s had the same recording out problem. I happened to have some spare time (Saturday), so I opened the amp and fixed it by myself. What I found out was that the recording out fault was caused just by one missing resistor, apparently left out accidentally when transferring the schematic into a PCB-layout. This kind of thing happens in electronics design and production now and then.

Without the resistor the recording output goes bad after few hours, this was between 2h and 5h in the 3 Rebel 30s I have tried. What happens in the circuitry is that there will be DC-voltage build-up in an op-amp -stage that will eventually limit the dynamic range of the circuit. Switching the power momentarily off will cure the problem for few hours (again).

Egnater is aware of this problem, and to my knowledge they are at least making the necessary changes for new units soon, if not already.

Apart from the recording out problem only my first Rebel 30 had other problems. It was the CH2 volume potentiometer, which was not good at very very low volume levels. The volume setting had to be so low that actually the store I bought the amp from tested it as OK, and probably re-sold it.

Build quality in the Rebel 30 head that I opened was good; neat and clean, with no signs of bad or even suspicious solder joints. "
 
I love my Rebel 30 too! I initially had problems with mine, but it was all due to bad tubes. Being new to the tube amp world, I didn't know what was going on and, like most people I suspect, started to blame the amp, the manufacturer, etc. for these problems. But once I swapped tubes, all was right with the world.

Here's a pic of my 'stack' -
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Here's my pedalboard that I use...although it's still a work in progress:

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I think this amp is super versatile, can get into metal territory with a boost, and has fantastic clean tones. Plus it's super portable. I can fit my whole rig into the back of my tiny hatchbach!
 
Yeah I initially had a bad tube but has some cheapie spares to pop in until egnater sent me replacements. then the footswitch failed, but all is well now. I love the different voicings this amp is able to produce! I really want the matching cabs to go with it and that will be my next purchase.....they sound better with the Egnater cabs than with my Marshall 2x12 1936 cabinet.

J5
 
Totally love the Rebel 30 again! It's been shelved while playing recent purchases (Traynor Dark Horse, Marshall Class 5, Fender Blues Jr, and a Marshall DSL50 head...i have issues, I know!) I just paired the head up with the Traynor Dark Horse Cab with Celestion Greenback and wow! This thing sounds better with the Greenbacks! I've been using the cabinet with the back panel off and have been totally impressed, to the point where I am not sure if I should order the matching Egnater cabinet now.

Anyone have a suggestion as to what the Celestion in the Eggie cabinet is voiced closest to? I know I plugged in a Rebel 20 head into a cab and the cab really sounded sweet, but that was in Las Vegas a few months back, we don't have an Egnater dealer on this island in the middle of the Atlantic!

J5
 
One thing for sure about the Rebel 30 is it's versatility to change tones when using different gear.
I've had amps before where every guitar sounded the same through them, and different speaker made little or no difference.
This is a great amp for tweaking your gear and finding your tone. Pedals, speakers, guitars.....
It adapts exceptionally well to their natural design.
 
Hey Egnater peeps........

I just wanted to say "Thanks" for starting this thread...........I wanted my 1st Egnater product to be the Rebel 30 head, but was just not sure about Egnater at all.........

I bought the Tweaker & just can't believe the quality & tone of this non-USA made amp........I'm stunned actually.....I've had amps costing 5 times as much w/ way more features that didn't sound half this good.......

If & when I'm ready for my next amp it will be an Egnater product & probably the Rebel 30 head........I will NOT sell my Tweaker though.......Lol......It's that good......

Damn it........Now I want the Rebel.......Thanks.......& keep talking about this amp........

Peace! X-Mann
 
Another one here very happy.
I was lucky that my music store let me take each amp I was looking at home for a few days, rather than a quick test in store.
I tried Fender HRD, Rivera Clubster, Marshall Haze (blew up after 30 seconds), and a Mesa 5:25, and a Rebel 30.

The R30 was the only one that immediately put a smile on my face, and was incredibly easy to dial in. It's had to get a bad tone, whereas, I fiddle with the Mesa for ages, before I got something that sounded good to me.

One thing I am curious about though. I'm still not convinced my wattage controls are working. I'm fully aware that its subtle at best, and have read all the tech notes, but..I have no tell tale "static noise" when moving them, and even at quite high volumes, the volume is not affected at all, even though Bruce says that the amp will only go as loud as the wattage control will allow.

Anyone have a sure fire way of testing it?
 
lordofthestrings":1gf1tnd9 said:
Another one here very happy.
I was lucky that my music store let me take each amp I was looking at home for a few days, rather than a quick test in store.
I tried Fender HRD, Rivera Clubster, Marshall Haze (blew up after 30 seconds), and a Mesa 5:25, and a Rebel 30.

The R30 was the only one that immediately put a smile on my face, and was incredibly easy to dial in. It's had to get a bad tone, whereas, I fiddle with the Mesa for ages, before I got something that sounded good to me.

One thing I am curious about though. I'm still not convinced my wattage controls are working. I'm fully aware that its subtle at best, and have read all the tech notes, but..I have no tell tale "static noise" when moving them, and even at quite high volumes, the volume is not affected at all, even though Bruce says that the amp will only go as loud as the wattage control will allow.

Anyone have a sure fire way of testing it?
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What about breakup?
Does the clean side break up early when set to 1 watt?
What power tubes are in it?
 
Steedee":2d7aslle said:
lordofthestrings":2d7aslle said:
Another one here very happy.
I was lucky that my music store let me take each amp I was looking at home for a few days, rather than a quick test in store.
I tried Fender HRD, Rivera Clubster, Marshall Haze (blew up after 30 seconds), and a Mesa 5:25, and a Rebel 30.

The R30 was the only one that immediately put a smile on my face, and was incredibly easy to dial in. It's had to get a bad tone, whereas, I fiddle with the Mesa for ages, before I got something that sounded good to me.

One thing I am curious about though. I'm still not convinced my wattage controls are working. I'm fully aware that its subtle at best, and have read all the tech notes, but..I have no tell tale "static noise" when moving them, and even at quite high volumes, the volume is not affected at all, even though Bruce says that the amp will only go as loud as the wattage control will allow.

Anyone have a sure fire way of testing it?
Click to expand...

What about breakup?
Does the clean side break up early when set to 1 watt?
What power tubes are in it?
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that's the thing, it doesn't seem to be breaking up any earlier at 1 watt on the clean. It's got the stock tubes in it. They are egnater branded rubys. (curiously 1 EL84 sits lower than the other one....actually looks taller)
 
lordofthestrings":1y9xhip8 said:
Steedee":1y9xhip8 said:
lordofthestrings":1y9xhip8 said:
Another one here very happy.
I was lucky that my music store let me take each amp I was looking at home for a few days, rather than a quick test in store.
I tried Fender HRD, Rivera Clubster, Marshall Haze (blew up after 30 seconds), and a Mesa 5:25, and a Rebel 30.

The R30 was the only one that immediately put a smile on my face, and was incredibly easy to dial in. It's had to get a bad tone, whereas, I fiddle with the Mesa for ages, before I got something that sounded good to me.

One thing I am curious about though. I'm still not convinced my wattage controls are working. I'm fully aware that its subtle at best, and have read all the tech notes, but..I have no tell tale "static noise" when moving them, and even at quite high volumes, the volume is not affected at all, even though Bruce says that the amp will only go as loud as the wattage control will allow.

Anyone have a sure fire way of testing it?
Click to expand...

What about breakup?
Does the clean side break up early when set to 1 watt?
What power tubes are in it?
Click to expand...

that's the thing, it doesn't seem to be breaking up any earlier at 1 watt on the clean. It's got the stock tubes in it. They are egnater branded rubys. (curiously 1 EL84 sits lower than the other one....actually looks taller)
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You might want to get it checked out.
Mine definitely responds to the wattage controls. It's subtle, but there. Especially the volume drop / increase.
When I want to overdrive my clean channel quickly I pretty much drop it down to 1 watt.
How about your tube trim knob...... Does that respond?
 
yea I think that's fine. Again very subtle, but noticable at higher volumes. I think I need to really dime the master and then see if the wattage knob does anything
 
lordofthestrings":o9dq7pu2 said:
yea I think that's fine. Again very subtle, but noticable at higher volumes. I think I need to really dime the master and then see if the wattage knob does anything
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When I have my channel 1 dimed, it goes from over-driven at 30 watts, to pure fuzz at 1 watt.
 
I have a rebel 30 and I agree the watts setting doesn't make it break up that fast.. On 1 watt it is still pretty loud for at home playing... I would say the differences are subtle at lower volumes... There is a good tech note in the owners manual about this Watts/Volume issue and I think it's on the eganter website as well... From my experience 1 watt is loud and to push it to break up its pretty loud and my wife is yelling at me haha... it has a lot of power :-)
 
JeepGuy04":4acletfa said:
I have a rebel 30 and I agree the watts setting doesn't make it break up that fast.. On 1 watt it is still pretty loud for at home playing... I would say the differences are subtle at lower volumes... There is a good tech note in the owners manual about this Watts/Volume issue and I think it's on the eganter website as well... From my experience 1 watt is loud and to push it to break up its pretty loud and my wife is yelling at me haha... it has a lot of power :-)
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Yeah agreed."Turn it down" are the 3 most common words spoken to me right now at home! The least effective knob on the amp at low volumes is the wattage knob. I can't see too much of a difference. I am gigging with it tonight and will test it at higher volumes to see how it goes.

I am amazed how much punch the amp has at the higher volumes, and am anxious to get to the gig tonight as I have been taking my Class 5 to the last few gigs. I'm going to pair it with an Am Std Strat with SCN's and running it through an open back 1 x 12 cabinet with a Celestion Greenback (my favorite speaker right now!)

J5
 
Love my 30...run it through a Germino Bluesbreaker cab with Scumback M55's...[best Greenbacks on the planet]...and it sounds great...

I did change all the tubes, but haven't had any issues with it...biasing is easy
 
Ok, so I've cranked the channel 1 volume, and played with the watts knob. Absolutely nada difference. Not even a subtle one
Plus since I cranked it, it's developed a rattle somewhere! Looks like a service call is in order. Bugger it. :aww:
 
lordofthestrings":2othe8e3 said:
looking forward to your results J5!
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Well turns out this was not the gig to test the sounds. It was a multi-band fundraiser and i only had 10 mins to set up, plus the amp ended up being beside me not behind me so I couldn't gauge the sound like I wanted. It DID sound good , the cleans were bright and punchy and the gain channel was creamy overdriven goodness! I'll gig with it again soon....

J5
 
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