I feel the Mesa Mark IV may be the best amp ever made.

[Meathead]

You can't use half of the guys on Curts list as playing Marshalls..... They are either playing modded marshalls or had a preamp in front of the amp which takes the marshall name out of the equasion.
Akira Takasaki also used a Boogie MKIII coli head and when he was using a marshall, he had a preamp in front of it.

This may take the Marshall name out of the equation for you, but it doesn't take the Marshall logo off of the amps those guys used.

And Puhleeeeeze, a Marshall with a little mod or boost in front of it combined is still 1/32nd the circuitry inside the mark IV.

Don't worry, the Mesa fanboys are just pulling at straws to keep this thread pro-Mesa.
With their backs against the wall, I find that these particular fanboys will say almost anything to discredit everything that isn't Mesa.

 

[MrDan666]

All I know is that PsychoDave WAS a diehard Marshall guy and the look on his face when he heard the boogies slaved was priceless

Man i bet that sounded amazin!! But you know what is as cool?

Slaving the Cameron into the Boogie MKIII

 

[Digital Jams]

All I know is that PsychoDave WAS a diehard Marshall guy and the look on his face when he heard the boogies slaved was priceless

That's because he was intimidated by all you east coast Boogie guys in one place and the smell of pepperoni was overwhelming his ears.

You forgot being blinded by the pinky rings

 

[Digital Jams]

You can't use half of the guys on Curts list as playing Marshalls..... They are either playing modded marshalls or had a preamp in front of the amp which takes the marshall name out of the equasion.
Akira Takasaki also used a Boogie MKIII coli head and when he was using a marshall, he had a preamp in front of it.

This may take the Marshall name out of the equation for you, but it doesn't take the Marshall logo off of the amps those guys used.

And Puhleeeeeze, a Marshall with a little mod or boost in front of it combined is still 1/32nd the circuitry inside the mark IV.

Don't worry, the Mesa fanboys are just pulling at straws to keep this thread pro-Mesa.
With their backs against the wall, I find that these particular fanboys will say almost anything to discredit everything that isn't Mesa.

Who the freak are you n00b

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Ironically I also own some of the amps the Mark IV detractors promote (as I'm sure other Mark owners as well) , there's room for all the makes and models it's all good

 

[Meathead]

Who the freak are you n00b

I don't know.

 

[Chubtone]

All I know is that PsychoDave WAS a diehard Marshall guy and the look on his face when he heard the boogies slaved was priceless

That's because he was intimidated by all you east coast Boogie guys in one place and the smell of pepperoni was overwhelming his ears.

You forgot being blinded by the pinky rings

Now THAT is some funny stuff there Scott!

 

[Greazygeo]

And Sorry George but Your dislike of mesas is clouding you judgement. Using thin to describe Sykes' Boogie tone is mind bending to me. His tone is thick as hell. Have you ever heard Blue murder?



FWIW, I absolutely love both Marshalls and Mesas. I think its great to have both.

I was just listening to the WS album, relearning a few tunes. The rhythm sounds pretty thin to me. Also there is a vid on Youtube of Whitesnake with Sykes and it was pretty thin there too. Its the one with Coverdale singing out of key I think.

I did see Blue Murder live but have not heard the record. Wasn't really my kind of music. Yes he's a great player, but his tone just doesnt really do anything for me. I just don't dig Mesa's or even stock Marshalls, but with some mods the Marshalls can be pretty awesome. Le Tekro and Takasaki (Thunder in the East) and Hoffman are as you know, more what I dig.

 

[yngzaklynch]

Well if I'm playing a Mk IV, a JVM or a boosted Vintage Modern, I'm pretty damn happy with things so.... It's my opinion that if you have any of the above mentioned amps you have some great tone. I just wish I could play half of what I hear in my head.

 

[shredi knight]

Hah!

Listen, I'll tell you the problem with the Mesa Mk series amps and this is I think a fatal flaw. When you turn the bass, mid and treble knobs on the Mesas, they actually change the amount of bass, mids and treble in the amp. WTH is up with that? My Marshalls and Marshall type amps only have this small range of changing the eq. Turn off the treble and presence knobs on a Marshall and there is normally still plenty of treble and presence. Crank the bass, or turn off the bass, it doesn't matter, there's not enough low end either way. It's an amp designed so that even dumbasses like me can't screw it up too much.

I'm not sure how someone can take what is obviously a pretty big draw back like tone controls that hardly make a difference and use it as an argument for superiority, but I certainly applaud your attempt at doing so.

 

[cobrahead1030]

getting turned on to the mark series is one of the best things i've discovered on the internet

 

[Gainfreak]

You can't use half of the guys on Curts list as playing Marshalls..... They are either playing modded marshalls or had a preamp in front of the amp which takes the marshall name out of the equasion.
Akira Takasaki also used a Boogie MKIII coli head and when he was using a marshall, he had a preamp in front of it.

This may take the Marshall name out of the equation for you, but it doesn't take the Marshall logo off of the amps those guys used.

And Puhleeeeeze, a Marshall with a little mod or boost in front of it combined is still 1/32nd the circuitry inside the mark IV.

Blah....... I hate you.

 

[Gainfreak]

And Sorry George but Your dislike of mesas is clouding you judgement. Using thin to describe Sykes' Boogie tone is mind bending to me. His tone is thick as hell. Have you ever heard Blue murder?



FWIW, I absolutely love both Marshalls and Mesas. I think its great to have both.

I was just listening to the WS album, relearning a few tunes. The rhythm sounds pretty thin to me. Also there is a vid on Youtube of Whitesnake with Sykes and it was pretty thin there too. Its the one with Coverdale singing out of key I think.

I did see Blue Murder live but have not heard the record. Wasn't really my kind of music. Yes he's a great player, but his tone just doesnt really do anything for me. I just don't dig Mesa's or even stock Marshalls, but with some mods the Marshalls can be pretty awesome. Le Tekro and Takasaki (Thunder in the East) and Hoffman are as you know, more what I dig.

Dude, LeTekros tone is in my top ten of all time so I have to yield at this time lol

That said, modded marshalls have always done it for me to, so Im on the fence because I love both.

Still don't think Sykes' tone was ever thin even on the WS albums but we will have to agree to disagree on that lol
I also dig Hoffmans tone so I totally hear what you are saying

 

[Duolos]

I have really been playing my mark IV and the more I play it the more I am liking it.

 

[Greazygeo]

Dude, LeTekros tone is in my top ten of all time so I have to yield at this time lol

That said, modded marshalls have always done it for me to, so Im on the fence because I love both.

Still don't think Sykes' tone was ever thin even on the WS albums but we will have to agree to disagree on that lol
I also dig Hoffmans tone so I totally hear what you are saying [/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOp8Zz50f6U&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p7HBDSxFmE&mode=related&search=

 

[simbasa]

This amp seems to be able to do it all. I would take it over any of my Marshalls.

Glad you love it, but for me the Mark III was the biggest amp disappointment ever. Mark IV is in the same camp. They sound great when other people play them, but not me. Marshall voicings work and sound better for me.

 

[blackba]

While I think a mark IV is among the top 20 best amps ever, I am not sure it is the best, to me it could use a few tweaks. More gain for R2, better reverb, R1 could be a little sweeter.

That said I really like my mark IV, it is not going anywhere. I have been getting into vintage fender amps more and more and I seem to be getting out of my Vox phase a bit.

 

[philb]

I hope to own one... one day. But for now, the Mark III is doing very well

 

[jasonP]

The thing I didn't like about my Mark IV was the fact that it had a pre eq. Post graphic eq. For me that made it hard to get what I wanted out of it. I found myself tweaking the amps tone with all the pull out knobs and different power features then I did actually playing the guitar. I thought it was a darker sounding amp that was very tight and liquidy.

 

[TOStudent]

The only thing I would add.
The Mark series I don't think anything can really touch it for versatility with channels/tones/features etc.
Specially the IV.
I don't, as most here, buy my amps/gear because of artists that use them. But other than 4+ artists and a hand full of albums that I can think of and that were mentioned above.
Sykes-WS album
Petrucci-4-5?
Akira-Loudness (Didn't know this one)
Metallica-4+? albums
LOG
No one seems to use the Mark series on recorded albums in comparison to Marshall.
Yes I agree mostly modded/ or preamped but Marshalls seem to be everywhere in comparison.
Not saying that is better just seems be the case.

Not being biased either way I own both a Mark IV and a Cameron Marshall.