Erock
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I'm still laughing at this 2 hours later!
My mom still can't pronounce my name correctly. It's always been "Elic"
My mom still can't pronounce my name correctly. It's always been "Elic"
degenaro
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I came across him, and Manuel Fernandes Gardiner years ago via insta.But the footage of the hands looks quite sped up, as well as the sound. I mean not MOP sped up but.....
...or is it a joke I'm not getting?
Kept not believing the "it's soedup/doctored" choir...until I made the mistake of watching NAMM "performances"
That was pretty telling...
You decide if this sounds the same level
cardinal
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I liked it. Not normally a fan of the genre but the vid in the OP was cool enough to me that I actually watched the whole thing.
Monkey Man
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Yeah I saw that when it dropped; not his finest moment and it put me off him entirely... 'til I heard this new play through. That said, I couldn't care less whether or not someone can perform flawlessly live. I appreciate it, but it's the studio version of stuff that I listen to 99.9% of the time... like most people I think.
PSA
I think peeps in the thread on-the-whole have assumed that the clip I posted was representative of his typical stuff. It isn't! (I'll edit the OP to reflect this too).
Sensitive-and-melodic from 4 years ago:
Mahlakuorrutus
Member
On a real note, I just see this kind of music too modern for my taste. I'm more in the old school camp when it comes to music.
Monkey Man
Super Moderator
I too bro', I too. 
rsm
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+1
I also don't think many of these players are live players; Ichika looked nervous...maybe first time playing live, then in a foreign country...also don't think he had his gear other than the sig guitar.
Henson is on another level from the social media "virtuosos" as I've seen Polyphia live.
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Faded Abyss
Active member
Even if it is live, it sounds like programmed MIDI music, even more so than edited to death recordings
IHateRap
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Anyone want to guess how she doesn't fall off that thing?
thegame
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Wow, this guy couldn’t hold Tim Hanson’s jockstrap…..err, I mean pantyliner
thegame
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That’s what they/them saidI'm still laughing at this 2 hours later!
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VonBonfire
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Him and Tim Henson are kind of like Stanley Jordan rehash stuff. I'd rather hear Stanley Jordan.
skoora
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I will say this, I at least liked melodically what he was doing at the beginning. He’s definitely a talented player but does expose the nonsense of the produced clips.
rushcentrale
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Seeing this guy for the first time thanks to Monkey Man's post. Blown away by the skills and talent and the 10ks of hours practicing to get to this level. It's not my cup of tea, or something I could listen to for long periods of time, but I have nothing but respect for musicians making their mark doing something pretty unique.
Yeah it does sounds perfect and calculated and quantized, but so is pop music these days because the computer has become such a key production instrument. I look at something like this as EDM with a guitar as the lead instrument instead of a synth. Pretty cool stuff imo.
Yeah it does sounds perfect and calculated and quantized, but so is pop music these days because the computer has become such a key production instrument. I look at something like this as EDM with a guitar as the lead instrument instead of a synth. Pretty cool stuff imo.
degenaro
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Well the point wasn't performing it flawlessly. Many of my faves have bumbled stuff, and I certainly have.
And I actually like his stuff, as well as Tim Henson's.
However the point is...
When it's so glaringly obvious after hearing his chops live that it's edited to hell and back and/or sped up (which I can still dig for recordings) and I get served play throughs I wonder wtf is the point.
degenaro
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So?
I've done a NAMM thing with band for Taylor playing a Taylor T5 acoustic through a onset of distortion amp.
That's about as far removed from my gear as possible.
Hell I've done a tour with a distortion pedal into laptop into whatever backline they threw up in Asia.
If it sounds like the player is firing on one cylinder on a V8 something is amiss.
As for Henson...
degenaro
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As I said I like what all of them are doing.
I just don't like that they're pretending that they can do it real time.
skoora
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Agree….Might as well just have A.I. do it if we’re not going to care about human excellence anymore. If all that matters is the entertainment value of the end product then I guess I’ll check out.
Like I said, I even liked what he did in the live performance in the first part so why go all crazy with the manipulation in post for video’s etc, when he obviously has something musically worthwhile going on.
I guess my old timer perception of what makes art meaningful is out of touch with the younger, social media age.
degenaro
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That's a fair point.
I guess guitar players miming to highly chopped stuff is no different than singers doing make believe when it's tuned harder than a AMCMercedes
