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itsme
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Agree. I have two of them. They’re cheap and consistent. With a little SD1 push on OD1 with the gain on 6, they sound great. Loop is good as well.
I'm James: I'm a Tube-a-holic.... recently, i've been heavily considering going digital. thoughts?
JustinCorrigible
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Those Brainworx plugins are close enough with Diezel, I’ve used them and mixed with my amp recordings and can’t tell the difference. If they wouldn’t crash my Logic sessions all the time I’d use them more often to record ideas.
Some models in the modelers just don’t sound as good isolated and it’s not a user problem.
romanianreaper
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When I got my divorce back in 2017, I got an electronic drumkit, lol.
For anyone who has gone thru this or currently, I'm sorry. It sucks and is sad, overwhelming, etc. but it will get better.
Don't sell your stuff. Get some type of equipment to harness the power and into an interface. Most of us have our sound. Just keep doing thst and find a way to have super low volume. Keep your amp away from the neighbors wall, etc. I did that for 20 years before getting a house.
I loved having a Fractal but with my 5150-III amps and Friedman, I play way more. My 5150-III amps are whisper quiet until band practice.
For anyone who has gone thru this or currently, I'm sorry. It sucks and is sad, overwhelming, etc. but it will get better.
Don't sell your stuff. Get some type of equipment to harness the power and into an interface. Most of us have our sound. Just keep doing thst and find a way to have super low volume. Keep your amp away from the neighbors wall, etc. I did that for 20 years before getting a house.
I loved having a Fractal but with my 5150-III amps and Friedman, I play way more. My 5150-III amps are whisper quiet until band practice.
jabps
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Been there done that with divorce and it truly sucks. I cleaned alot of stuff out (amps, 4x12's, guitars) but saved my most important pieces to me, grateful that I did. Because when the worm turned that stuff was there when I wanted it, which I still have.
Just my 2 cents.
Sounds like you've made up your mind on the Kemper. That said, even with your situation I'd do my best to hang onto that amp. You never know when things will change, and they will change.
Been there done that with divorce and it truly sucks. I cleaned alot of stuff out (amps, 4x12's, guitars) but saved my most important pieces to me, grateful that I did. Because when the worm turned that stuff was there when I wanted it, which I still have.
Just my 2 cents.
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Panhead5
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Hard to counsel folks . Digital makes alot of sense and it seems like they sound great WHEN SOMEONE BESIDES ME is using it but man they fall short compared to how a tube amp and guitar and cab responds to the room and your fingers. If you need lower volumes and portability it might be the way to go but I still don't think I would sell my amp.
thegame
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The OP is named James, going through a divorce and after some tentative steps is ready to finally ditch tubes altogether for digital. We know it’s you Hetfield, fess up!
Techdeth
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Sorry about your situation. I’m in the same positions I’m going to a few amps but not go digital . I play really quiet on my mark III++ . I just add a little more drive than usual on my boost to thicken it up . I do that with a Soul Food atm . But ya these changes suck. I feel ya bro
RevDrucifer
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Next time you can crank up through your cab, try fucking with the Speaker Impedance Curves in the amp block. I was just curious how they’d interact with everything, coming out of real cabs, I was pretty surprised with what it did. While not technically “right”, it doesn’t so much change the way it sounds coming out of the cab as much as it does how it comes out of the cab at all. Hard to explain, but you’ll notice it right away. It’s like it shifts the focus/direction of the sound coming out of the cabs, even though that’s not what it’s doing.
RevDrucifer
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Oh, even as a modeling fan, if you don’t have to sell that Mark IV, DON’T!
I got divorced 2 years ago, lost my studio and I’m in an apartment now, I’m all AxeFX in my studio but still play through real cabs in my living room….just at whisper volumes. I always feel the need to have a functioning live rig ready to go for whenever I feel like dealing with band members again. Best of luck to ya, man! It sucks at first but life got pretty damn good soon after!
I got divorced 2 years ago, lost my studio and I’m in an apartment now, I’m all AxeFX in my studio but still play through real cabs in my living room….just at whisper volumes. I always feel the need to have a functioning live rig ready to go for whenever I feel like dealing with band members again. Best of luck to ya, man! It sucks at first but life got pretty damn good soon after!
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NeubyWanKaneuby
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Just grab a Boss Katana for times when you need to rock headphones.
It's cheaper, and if you want to deep dive you can just download the boss software and tweak away.
It's cheaper, and if you want to deep dive you can just download the boss software and tweak away.
mchn13
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Thanks man. Ill check it out tomorrow. The learning curve is a mofo for me. I literally have it on a desk beside my triple rec dialing in a triple rec model. Its so dumb.
ccn
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Unfortunately Yamaha doesn't offer that X model anymore .
ccn
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I view the opposite sex from a distance , much safer that way and besides I now get to take the garbage out whenever I damn well feel like taking it out .
Lets not forget who's imitating who with the real tube amps vs digital debate.
Lets not forget who's imitating who with the real tube amps vs digital debate.
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VESmedic
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To me, the speaker impedance curve selection is the single most important thing in the axe for getting the tone right to me. It’s so crucial and so extremely important and powerful. Cant imagine not having that anymore.
Monkey Man
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We don't have one in the RT custom set unfortunately brother.
Jim, I hear you 100% on every point you made in your OP.
IMHO one of the main (and perhaps-relevant) advantages of going digital is that mic'ing a cab in a sub-par room, even with top-notch mic's and preamps, doesn't capture a rig in all its intended glory, room reflections and resonances' being responsible for all sorts of unwanted colouration.
IOW, if you're going to record, there can't be a simpler solution IMHO.
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A cab sim / load box would be the next-best option IMHO 'cause it eliminates the bad-room problem, but of course this wouldn't afford you the luxury of scrolling through and auditioning thousands of complete setups the way the Kemper does; you'd still be stuck with 1 amp.
blackba
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Jim, Sorry you are going through a divorce, they suck. I know when I went through mine, I could not sell stuff till everything was signed. I am not sure where you are in the process, but something to keep in mind.
I like the idea of just getting a cheap used yamaha THR and keeping the mark IV or a used suhr RLIR that you can use with the mark IV to record.
Hang in there man, there is life after divorce.
I like the idea of just getting a cheap used yamaha THR and keeping the mark IV or a used suhr RLIR that you can use with the mark IV to record.
Hang in there man, there is life after divorce.
Crunchity
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FWIW, I have an SLO and a 101B, totally a long time tube amp user/recordist....but I also added an AxFX III to the home studio a couple years ago and umm, I've been recording more with it than the others. Keep your tube amps/cabs for a while of course to be safe after you've added a modern modeler and start making tracks with it, see for yourself if its "all that" (I'm betting it will be).
ghosty999
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I would keep both. Attenuator load box so you can jam your amp, but also pick up a second hand AxeFX 2 or something for digital fun.
Been recording amp and digital guitarists for years and I've done experiments in the past to see if the "purists" can back up their claims. They can't tell what mix is a digital amp or a tube amp when I A/B. They can't tell what they are playing through when I do blind tests with Fractal/Amp Room feeds. Audience don't give a shit either. People on forums will write paragraphs on why you should feel a certain way about a analog/digital but never show you any real world examples, so it becomes an emotional argument. Not worth the time.
If it sounds good, it probably does. Just play loud what ever it is \m/
Been recording amp and digital guitarists for years and I've done experiments in the past to see if the "purists" can back up their claims. They can't tell what mix is a digital amp or a tube amp when I A/B. They can't tell what they are playing through when I do blind tests with Fractal/Amp Room feeds. Audience don't give a shit either. People on forums will write paragraphs on why you should feel a certain way about a analog/digital but never show you any real world examples, so it becomes an emotional argument. Not worth the time.
If it sounds good, it probably does. Just play loud what ever it is \m/
PurityS.L.G
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1. Sorry to hear of your divorce. Good news is there is a VERY BRIGHT light at the end of that tunnel to look forward to, I promise you that. It will take a little while to get there, especially with kids involved.
2. I know the Mark series is your all time favorite line of amps and how romantically you’ve talked about them for the past 15+ years I’ve seen you on all the forums. Don’t get rid of yours. Much like all the legendary classic cars that are pretty much all snagged up, the same is going for all the good vintage guitar gear. It has gotten expensive and not easy to replace.
Get an attenuator and be done with it. The Fryette Power Station raw output into a good IR and there is your recording setup right there. Those are even hard to find so maybe go for the Power Load IR or Suhr Loadbox IR.
2. I know the Mark series is your all time favorite line of amps and how romantically you’ve talked about them for the past 15+ years I’ve seen you on all the forums. Don’t get rid of yours. Much like all the legendary classic cars that are pretty much all snagged up, the same is going for all the good vintage guitar gear. It has gotten expensive and not easy to replace.
Get an attenuator and be done with it. The Fryette Power Station raw output into a good IR and there is your recording setup right there. Those are even hard to find so maybe go for the Power Load IR or Suhr Loadbox IR.