ISP Decimator g-string not living up to what I expxcted

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Well, I just got a chance to plug it in and hope it would slove all my noisey amp problems. It didn't, not even close to what I expected. :thumbsdown: I have seen some videos on it and it got praised like it was the holy grail for any high gain application. It took so much to get the feedback back under controll that it took away all the sustain. There was no diffenence in the "fuzz" that you can here when the guitars volume is all the way down no matter if you turned the pedals knob all the way up or down.
Did I get a "bunk" pedal? Did I hook it up wrong? :confused: I want this pedal to do what I have seen but I don't know what to do. w

Tell me your experience with this pedal. I am dumb or is it just simply not going to solve my problems?
 
if the noise is in the preamp, you wont solve it in the front of it.

if the noise is from boost pedals running in the front, then with the pedal in the front of the preamp, you will solve the preamp boost noise, but not the preamp noise

hence why guys like the pro-rack G with the stereo mod - you have two independent channels for front/back noise control and still get the monitoring ability for the vector processor.

your option is to relocate the g-string into an effects loop if you have one to get rid of the preamp static noise. if you dont have a preamp, then there isnt much you can do about it without circuit modifications internally.

but you will not have a noisy input if it's out front :)
 
Is the battery dead? i always use wall warts with my decimators. Also are you using it correctly? with the g-string if you are just using it upfront guitar/g-string/amp you have to use a jumper cable in the g-string to get it to work right its been awhile but i think it goes in the dec in/ dec out or run it in the loop and upfront. Ive owned all of them and had no issues best noise gates out there the only thing i disliked was running the patch cable with the g-string. I never really had to run my decimators past 12O'CLock.
http://www.isptechnologies.com/index.ph ... ing-pedal-
 
i ran the pro-rack G and although they work great, i prefer no noise gates. damn thing sucks the "umph" away from your amplifier and removes a chunk of extended frequencies away from your low end. at least it did with mine. not noticable at low volumes, but annoyingly noticable at band volumes. still like it without. but im debating getting another one for out front - boosts/guitars/etc

i dont downtune either, this was when i played in Eb

also worth mentioning is to make sure none of your cables are deffective or the shielding is not soldered completely or incorrectly.
 
The gstring isnt stereo. It wont get rid of any feedback through the guitar in/out. It has the loop part labeld dec in/out, and the other part that says guitar i/o is just tracking so it works better on reverbs and doesnt cut off things when on the clean channel.
 
roadifier":1z0yepnl said:
The gstring isnt stereo. It wont get rid of any feedback through the guitar in/out. It has the loop part labeld dec in/out, and the other part that says guitar i/o is just tracking so it works better on reverbs and doesnt cut off things when on the clean channel.
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yeah the stereo mod is misleading.

i didnt know the g-string had tracking, thats cool.

basically the normal proracks you have to use 1 channel for tracking/noisegate of the the guitar input, and the other for noisegating your amplifier effects loop. you get major tone suckage this way depending on what noise your getting rid of, and you have notes being cut off alot.

the stereo mod allows you to free-up that one channel that you're using for tracking and plug into one tracking dedicated input thats much more accurate - (guitar out goes into amplifier input if you want) and then you have two free channels to do with whatever you please. you could use one channel for guitar noisgating + extra tracking and the other channel for effects loop, or use it in a W/D/W rig and have the tracking of a buffered input right before your amp so you dont get notes cutoff like reverbs and as you mentioned.

more options but imho it still tone-sucks if you use it in an effects loop at all. at least it did for me. but yeah the stereo mod is misunderstood alot of times.
 
Run one through the loop and one after all you're other pedals. Sound be perfect. I absolutely love my decimator. The one pedal that will NEVER leave my board.
 
I just use my G string pedal in my amps loop and it works great. I used to use 2 regular decimators one up front and one in the loop and that worked fine too but it got a little complicated to get them both set just right so i could still get good sustain
 
That is the problem with hype. NOTHING works as good as people say on the Internet. Period.


That being said, I like my Decimator. I run it after my boost and before the amp input. It keeps it quiet when I am not playing for quick start-stops and stops feedback. But, I still have some idle hiss I don't worry about, because to remove it would mean to cut the balls off the rig.
 
I will give it a shot with what you guys suggested. never heard the patch cable trick.Thanks guys
 
ACShreds":2fx62th7 said:
I just use my G string pedal in my amps loop and it works great. I used to use 2 regular decimators one up front and one in the loop and that worked fine too but it got a little complicated to get them both set just right so i could still get good sustain
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My friend runs like this--quiet, but also no dynamics...
 
Hold on a minute,..... The G-string will not work properly if you are just putting it in front of the amp and not through the loop also..Do you know how to properly connect it ? I have a G-string and it cuts 100% of any noise that an amp has.
 
the4thlast1":md9e2z6l said:
Hold on a minute,..... The G-string will not work properly if you are just putting it in front of the amp and not through the loop also..Do you know how to properly connect it ? I have a G-string and it cuts 100% of any noise that an amp has.
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Maybe that is why I hated mine. I got it to try to quiet the noise of my traditional SC's pickups on my strat. I ran it in front of my amps with no loops. I don't remember the manual saying you couldn't run it out front. Anyway, it would cut the SC noise great, but killed any dynamics and sustain. I also got it to try out with the Spider III at church. No loop on the Spider III either, didn't help the noise, the problem there was a poor ground in the building, that they fixed.

Never go around to trying it in the loop of my other amps. I don't see myself buying another noise suppressor though. On my strat, I just bought a RWRP middle pickup, so I don't have noise on positions 2 and 4. It did affect the tone some, but I can live with it. If not, I will go with a Suhr Backplate or some Kinman or Dimarzio humcanceling SC's....
 
the4thlast1":1wm1dmgh said:
Hold on a minute,..... The G-string will not work properly if you are just putting it in front of the amp and not through the loop also..Do you know how to properly connect it ? I have a G-string and it cuts 100% of any noise that an amp has.
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Whew, waiting for someone to chime in here! :thumbsup:

Yeah you guys don't seem to know what the g string model is.

The g string is the same as the pedal decimator not the rackmounr or the stereo rack mount mod.

The g string has an added loop in between the detection circuit and the suppression circuit.

This allows you to place the unit in the series fx loop of the amplifier. What this accomplishes is that the fx tracks the incoming guitar signal rather than the fx loop send. When setting the unit to higher settings to kill high gsin noise the unit will not be set to high when switching to clean as the older non g string units do.

Does it chop a little sub bass? Sure but that bass and a ton above it would be filtered off at the sound board anyway.

It is pretty transparent tho. Best suppressor so far.
 
To address the OP. The unit should be placed in the series fx loop of your amp before any delays or reverbs or the trails may get cut off.

This will kill any noise from everything except any pedals behind it or the power amp section.

Set it to taste and rock!
 
My G String works perfectly. I have plenty of balls, lots of sustain, and no noise

Its a pro rack G on the floor basically...with just one threshold adjustment instead of two like the PRG (front and loop)
 
Lord Toneking":2mquc0iq said:
My G String works perfectly. I have plenty of balls, lots of sustain, and no noise

Its a pro rack G on the floor basically...with just one threshold adjustment instead of two like the PRG (front and loop)
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Wrong it's not a like the pro rack g. It has one detection circuit and one suppression. The pro rack has one detection and two suppression circuits as well as the other added control which name escapes me at this moment.

The pro rack detects the input signal then supersede before the amp and in the fx loop also.
 
I bought a DSP G string deciminator i placed it on the loop but when i activate the pedal , the noise go away so it's ok , but i did not have more guitar sound !?

Can someone please take a picture of the right plugging cable when you use it on the LOOP only

Thanks
 
I've never had any type of noise suppresion that didn't effect tone.
 
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