Kramer Pacer question

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Chris6870 said:
I love those old Kramers. But the prices are stupid. Unless you need the old school mojo,You can build a comparable guitar for much less. They were nothing more than parts guitars assembled in a factory in NJ back in the day. The newer Pacer with a few upgrades will get you there or buy a Charvel San Dimas
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I bought a new Kramer Baretta. It feels just like the one I used to have in the 80s. I remember now why I sold the original, but it's so damn cool I'm keeping it.

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Here's my C plate Pacer. I had it refretted as soon as I got it off eBay. It came with a very cool old SD pickup, but I forget the model #. I had Jalen build me a clear bobbin clone of the EVH Frankenstein pup, but with four conductor wire for coil splitting. This guitar SLAYS. Not for sale.
 
Congrats !
I love the beak headstock.
Kramers are comfortable guitars imo.
I have never had a hh kramer.
On hss and sh.
Even my Voyager has only a sh.
 
Nice!! That output jack being on a plate concerns me though. Should have a barrel jack? Was it replaced at some point? What does the control cavity route look like on it?
 
War_in_D said:
Nice!! That output jack being on a plate concerns me though. Should have a barrel jack? Was it replaced at some point? What does the control cavity route look like on it?
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A lot can happen to a guitar in 40 or so years, especially a guitar that gets gigged with and rehearsed with and recorded with. A barrel jack falls out at a recording session or on the day of a gig and you are just pulling an input jack off another guitar to repair it or using whatever your local repairman had available right at that second.
 
Here’s the control cavity
 

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paulyc said:
Here’s the control cavity
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Yeah, no paint in the hole so likely not a factory drill job on the output jack. :thumbsup:
Chubtone said:
A lot can happen to a guitar in 40 or so years, especially a guitar that gets gigged with and rehearsed with and recorded with. A barrel jack falls out at a recording session or on the day of a gig and you are just pulling an input jack off another guitar to repair it or using whatever your local repairman had available right at that second.
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I don't disagree with you. But, it's nothing to add a third control knob to a Focus 2000 body either and try to pass it off as a Pacer body. The dead giveaway of someone trying to pass that off, would be the exterior jack plate. That was my main concern when I saw it. Being a really early C plate serial, I though it might still have the elongated "Les Paul" type control cavity which would have proven it to be 100% Pacer. If I remember right, that cavity changed over sometime during the late B to early C serials. It's got that early-mid 80's route, but that pic clearly shows the output jack hole was drilled at a later time so I'm sure it's legit.
 
War_in_D said:
Yeah, no paint in the hole so likely not a factory drill job on the output jack. :thumbsup:


I don't disagree with you. But, it's nothing to add a third control knob to a Focus 2000 body either and try to pass it off as a Pacer body. The dead giveaway of someone trying to pass that off, would be the exterior jack plate. That was my main concern when I saw it. Being a really early C plate serial, I though it might still have the elongated "Les Paul" type control cavity which would have proven it to be 100% Pacer. If I remember right, that cavity changed over sometime during the late B to early C serials. It's got that early-mid 80's route, but that pic clearly shows the output jack hole was drilled at a later time so I'm sure it's legit.
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You know way more about Kramers than I do!!!!
 
Chubtone said:
You know way more about Kramers than I do!!!!
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I don't know about all that, but I used to be pretty active in the Kramer forums back in the day. There were many folks on those forums that know a lot more than I do for sure. I did pay a little more attention to the Pacers though, as they were probably my favorite Kramer from back in the day (along with the archtop Stagemasters).
 
A few more Kramers.
I had quickgaurd custom make the hs pickgaurds for me.
I also had dimarzio do the chrome covered pickups.
I have several necks but was going to paint the guitars first.
Life and too much on my plate so the projects sit.
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