Lessons from a n00b buying recording crap......

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1) If someone tells you not to buy BFD and get EZDrummer do not ask questions.

2) Unless you are mixing a gazillion tracks you do NOT need full versions of Cubase, Samplitude, Sonar, whatever....way overkill and huge learning curve.

3) Monitors...go BIG x2.

4) Save up a little longer and buy larger audio monitors.

5) RAM RAM.....oh yeah........MORE RAM

6) Get a comfy chair....your arse is going to need it.

It took me 2 hours to get the first Cubase4 Studio tutorial working last night :doh: Between latency settings, VST paths, input and output settings and figuring out WTF each button was a 3 Jose Golden adventure alone :cry:

BFD.......ugh :doh: Having to run FL and get BFD into that AND get the programming down is like sticking toothpicks under your nails.

If I get this crap sorted out and my machine crashes someone will die................
 
Good advice!

Due to space limitations I can't even follow some of the points you made so I'm below noob status in some areas :lol: :LOL:
 
I LOATHE those drum programs....I'm more partial to prerecorded drum tracks, like BetaMonkey, or Extreme metal loops, etc.
 
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)
 
Shiny_Surface":8b71c said:
Good advice!

Due to space limitations I can't even follow some of the points you made so I'm below noob status in some areas :lol: :LOL:

I may know some fancy words but trust me you are WAY over me right now :lol: :LOL:
 
danhops":e91f0 said:
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)

What monitors do you recommend? I have the old JBL monitor 4208's and they are not accurate at all. I have no idea how JBL won a tech awards because those speakers eat up bass like crazy. Everything sounds great on them but when you go to normal speakers everything is to bass heavy. i think its time to unload them.
 
danhops":0bff5 said:
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)

Well I have the KRK5s right now and someone sent me something to listen to and I thought the bass level was pretty darn good but when a sub was thrown into the mix the bass was boomy. I probably should have invested another $200 for the KRK8s for added bass response.
 
Gainfreak":db484 said:
danhops":db484 said:
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)

What monitors do you recommend? I have the old JBL monitor 4208's and they are not accurate at all. I have no idea how JBL won a tech awards because those speakers eat up bass like crazy. Everything sounds great on them but when you go to normal speakers everything is to bass heavy. i think its time to unload them.


I have a pair of the 4208's too....same issue.....mix sounds great, play it on normal speakers and :shocked:
 
A big + on not needed full version recording software. I upgraded from Sonar 3 to Sonar 6 and I'm really just doing the same shit i was on Sonar 3.


And i need more RAM. As soon as i try to add Perfect Space reverb, i get dropouts. :no:

The biggest change i have found in my equipment that changes the sounds i get from recordings are what speakers I'm using to make the clip with. I tried a Groove Tube Brick tube mic pre and it wasn't much of an improvment over my crappy litte Audiobuddy.
 
Digital Jams":7896d said:
danhops":7896d said:
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)

Well I have the KRK5s right now and someone sent me something to listen to and I thought the bass level was pretty darn good but when a sub was thrown into the mix the bass was boomy. I probably should have invested another $200 for the KRK8s for added bass response.

I think it is mandatory. The Subs respond differently in that you can tell if something has enough bass or is just to BOOOMY!!

I think I need to ace the JBL's but I don;t have the cash right now.
 
Ultron":f8973 said:
Gainfreak":f8973 said:
danhops":f8973 said:
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)

What monitors do you recommend? I have the old JBL monitor 4208's and they are not accurate at all. I have no idea how JBL won a tech awards because those speakers eat up bass like crazy. Everything sounds great on them but when you go to normal speakers everything is to bass heavy. i think its time to unload them.


I have a pair of the 4208's too....same issue.....mix sounds great, play it on normal speakers and :shocked:

Im glad that Im not the only one. The cool thing is that everything sounds HUGE on those speakers (in a good way) But for mixes.. they absolutely blow. i might keep them for playback purposes. I need a good mixing pair that wont break the bank.
 
danyeo":5f6a1 said:
A big + on not needed full version recording software. I upgraded from Sonar 3 to Sonar 6 and I'm really just doing the same shit i was on Sonar 3.


And i need more RAM. As soon as i try to add Perfect Space reverb, i get dropouts. :no:

The biggest change i have found in my equipment that changes the sounds i get from recordings are what speakers I'm using to make the clip with. I tried a Groove Tube Brick tube mic pre and it wasn't much of an improvment over my crappy litte Audiobuddy.

Yup, I got all stoked while looking at Samplitude 8, Cubase4 and got caught up in all of the bells and whistles that I will never use. Cubase LE would fit what I am doing right now but maybe in the future as I grow I will use what I have more.
 
Digital Jams":bea00 said:
danyeo":bea00 said:
A big + on not needed full version recording software. I upgraded from Sonar 3 to Sonar 6 and I'm really just doing the same shit i was on Sonar 3.


And i need more RAM. As soon as i try to add Perfect Space reverb, i get dropouts. :no:

The biggest change i have found in my equipment that changes the sounds i get from recordings are what speakers I'm using to make the clip with. I tried a Groove Tube Brick tube mic pre and it wasn't much of an improvment over my crappy litte Audiobuddy.

Yup, I got all stoked while looking at Samplitude 8, Cubase4 and got caught up in all of the bells and whistles that I will never use. Cubase LE would fit what I am doing right now but maybe in the future as I grow I will use what I have more.

I still haven't moved on from Cakewalk Home Studio... I almost did, but then realized that there wasn't a single function that I needed to have that would justify the cost in dollars and time. The money was better spent on plugins and monitors.
 
SuperStrat":1085f said:
Digital Jams":1085f said:
danyeo":1085f said:
A big + on not needed full version recording software. I upgraded from Sonar 3 to Sonar 6 and I'm really just doing the same shit i was on Sonar 3.


And i need more RAM. As soon as i try to add Perfect Space reverb, i get dropouts. :no:

The biggest change i have found in my equipment that changes the sounds i get from recordings are what speakers I'm using to make the clip with. I tried a Groove Tube Brick tube mic pre and it wasn't much of an improvment over my crappy litte Audiobuddy.

Yup, I got all stoked while looking at Samplitude 8, Cubase4 and got caught up in all of the bells and whistles that I will never use. Cubase LE would fit what I am doing right now but maybe in the future as I grow I will use what I have more.

I still haven't moved on from Cakewalk Home Studio... I almost did, but then realized that there wasn't a single function that I needed to have that would justify the cost in dollars and time. The money was better spent on plugins and monitors.

I did score Cubase4 Studio for $299, they let me get the competitive version since I have Cubase VST but man I did not know the learning curve would be this high. Way different progs :doh:
 
The Big Snit":26a3a said:
Way too many home studios and not enough CDs released! :lol: :LOL:

So get cracking :gethim:

At least all my crap runs on Vista :clap: \:D/ :hys: :cheers: :poke:
 
Digital Jams":7f2cf said:
The Big Snit":7f2cf said:
Way too many home studios and not enough CDs released! :lol: :LOL:

So get cracking :gethim:

At least all my crap runs on Vista :clap: \:D/ :hys: :cheers: :poke:
My new laser printer won't work with Vista, video card crashes/glitches all the time, audio card won't work, recording software...incompatible. Blue tooth...forget it.
Almost everything is just beta drivers.

I bought a copy of XP Media Center....yeah! :doh:
 
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