Lessons from a n00b buying recording crap......

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Ultron":d5461 said:
I LOATHE those drum programs....I'm more partial to prerecorded drum tracks, like BetaMonkey, or Extreme metal loops, etc.

That's why I like EZDrummer; all it is is a collection of loops that you can mix and match to make tight sounding drum tracks.
 
and the worst thing is you finally get everything up and working perfect ...

you sit down with your fav axe ...... and draw a absolute blank :doh:


I personally always get stuck on drums .... I'm never happy with any software I've been in contact with ( not that it's been much ) ....

I'll have to check out EZdrummer ... don't think I've messed with that one yet I have DKFH but what the hell to learn the dam thing .. :aww:
 
Variable":b062d said:
Ultron":b062d said:
I LOATHE those drum programs....I'm more partial to prerecorded drum tracks, like BetaMonkey, or Extreme metal loops, etc.

That's why I like EZDrummer; all it is is a collection of loops that you can mix and match to make tight sounding drum tracks.


Your ideas are intriguing and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter
 
Digital Jams":3cb3d said:
1) If someone tells you not to buy BFD and get EZDrummer do not ask questions.

Gotta have some patience with BFD. There's a ton of flexibility...and the expansion packs are enormous.

2) Unless you are mixing a gazillion tracks you do NOT need full versions of Cubase, Samplitude, Sonar, whatever....way overkill and huge learning curve.

Usually the SE versions will leave out some stuff that you don't need at the moment, but later on you'll be wishing you had it.

3) Monitors...go BIG x2.

Definitely....I just bought a 240 watt 10" sub with a footswitchable bypass. It's rocking my world. My mixes may not improve, but man, it sounds good. :)

4) Save up a little longer and buy larger audio monitors.

Ha ha.

5) RAM RAM.....oh yeah........MORE RAM

Yep, 2 gig here.

6) Get a comfy chair....your arse is going to need it.

Especially when trying to get BFD to work right.

It took me 2 hours to get the first Cubase4 Studio tutorial working last night :doh: Between latency settings, VST paths, input and output settings and figuring out WTF each button was a 3 Jose Golden adventure alone :cry:

BFD.......ugh :doh: Having to run FL and get BFD into that AND get the programming down is like sticking toothpicks under your nails.

If I get this crap sorted out and my machine crashes someone will die................
 
n00b!!!!

I have all my crap working on my new Vista loaded machine now...

I am waiting to buy a new sound card though till all the driver
issues are worked out. I am pretty sure I am going firewire though.

Monitors will be bought next... As far as Samplitude goes, I have listened
to things recorded on it through really good monitors in a studio and things recorded on Cubase and Sonar. I find at least to my ears and this
isn't snake oil, that Samplitude/Sequioa have better recording engines.
Things sound truer to life on this recording software... And no, it isn't just
all ones and zeros.
 
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riffy":e5847 said:
n00b!!!!

I have all my crap working on my new Vista loaded machine now...

I am waiting to buy a new sound card though till all the driver
issues are worked out. I am pretty sure I am going firewire though.

Monitors will be bought next... As far as Samplitude goes, I have listened
to things recorded on it through really good monitors in a studio and things recorded on Cubase and Sonar. I find at least to my ears and this
isn't snake oil, that Samplitude/Sequioa have better recording engines.
Things sound truer to life on this recording software... And no, it isn't just
all ones and zeros.
Vista and I have split up, it just didn't work out between us.
We may get back together down the road, but I just don't know.
It's a sore spot with me right now, so I don't like to talk about it.

I have heard a few corksniffers say that Samplitude sounds better than other recording software. :D
 
Digital Jams":838b3 said:
1) If someone tells you not to buy BFD and get EZDrummer do not ask questions.

2) Unless you are mixing a gazillion tracks you do NOT need full versions of Cubase, Samplitude, Sonar, whatever....way overkill and huge learning curve.

3) Monitors...go BIG x2.

4) Save up a little longer and buy larger audio monitors.

5) RAM RAM.....oh yeah........MORE RAM

6) Get a comfy chair....your arse is going to need it.

It took me 2 hours to get the first Cubase4 Studio tutorial working last night :doh: Between latency settings, VST paths, input and output settings and figuring out WTF each button was a 3 Jose Golden adventure alone :cry:

BFD.......ugh :doh: Having to run FL and get BFD into that AND get the programming down is like sticking toothpicks under your nails.

If I get this crap sorted out and my machine crashes someone will die................
CLIPS!!!!!! :gethim: :D
 
The Big Snit":415fb said:
riffy":415fb said:
n00b!!!!

I have all my crap working on my new Vista loaded machine now...

I am waiting to buy a new sound card though till all the driver
issues are worked out. I am pretty sure I am going firewire though.

Monitors will be bought next... As far as Samplitude goes, I have listened
to things recorded on it through really good monitors in a studio and things recorded on Cubase and Sonar. I find at least to my ears and this
isn't snake oil, that Samplitude/Sequoia have better recording engines.
Things sound truer to life on this recording software... And no, it isn't just
all ones and zeros.
Vista and I have split up, it just didn't work out between us.
We may get back together down the road, but I just don't know.
It's a sore spot with me right now, so I don't like to talk about it.

I have heard a few corksniffers say that Samplitude sounds better than other recording software. :D

They are honestly correct...If I can hear the difference it is better.
My buddy from Australia that records symphony's turned me onto it.
He teaches arranging, composing and jazz piano there in a conservatory.
Pete has GREAT ears. He was musical director for Cats in London for a good stint as well as playing with Oscar Peterson for a couple of years.
 
riffy":8f346 said:
They are honestly correct...If I can hear the difference it is better.
My buddy from Australia that records symphony's turned me onto it.
He teaches arranging, composing and jazz piano there in a conservatory.
Pete has GREAT ears. He was musical director for Cats in London for a good stint as well as playing with Oscar Peterson for a couple of years.
I believe it...I used to hang at a recording forum many years ago and they were testing all the programs and Samplitude was chosen as the best sounding program by most of the guys there. One guy used some kind of analyzer and was showing why it was better, but that talk got way over my head. ;)
 
I have ezdrummer, but I really want to give DKH or BFD a try.. but my computer is a little on the wimpy side to run either of them.
 
This seems like great advice. Now we're moved into our new place I'm about to partake in my first home recording project. I've recorded 5 different cds in studios and I still plan to record the drums in a studio and mix in a studio, but this will be my first time buying, learning and using the software...

...and did I mention I'm very, very stupid? :confused:
 
anyone who knows how to use BFD wanna get me started? I have Pro Tools and Albeton live. I have no idea how to start sequencing my own tracks.
 
I have also heard that Samplitude has the best a-d converters but I thought that by owning Cubase VST that I would be ready to go with Cubase4 Studio......man was I wrong :doh:
 
Digital Jams":a5512 said:
I have also heard that Samplitude has the best a-d converters but I thought that by owning Cubase VST that I would be ready to go with Cubase4 Studio......man was I wrong :doh:

Computer software has A/D converters or is that a combined hardware/software solution?

Cubase has certainly been "good enough" for me thus far and the weakest link in my chain is probably my Yamaha mixer and not the software I'm guessing :lol: :LOL:
 
Shiny_Surface":809a4 said:
Digital Jams":809a4 said:
I have also heard that Samplitude has the best a-d converters but I thought that by owning Cubase VST that I would be ready to go with Cubase4 Studio......man was I wrong :doh:

Computer software has A/D converters or is that a combined hardware/software solution?

Cubase has certainly been "good enough" for me thus far and the weakest link in my chain is probably my Yamaha mixer and not the software I'm guessing :lol: :LOL:

MAybe I was wrong saying a-d converters.......not sure :confused: HAs something to do with the engine of the software, Bob or Ed would know what exactly makes one better than another. There is Samplitude SE out there that Ed said has the same basic design, some mag was giving it away for free last year.
 
You guys make this shit way too complicated. :D


I just open up protools, put a 57 in front of the grill, and tear it up baby!!!!! :rock:

Seriously though, I barely know how to turn on a plug in or use the compressors. I suck at teh studio. :cry:
 
Digital Jams":a5463 said:
danhops":a5463 said:
Not sure why you say get larger monitors, I just say get good monitors. As for BFD, I like it, but I am currently using Strike in Protools. I like both for different reasons. Then again, I dont use the preset loops, I program my own drums when I do it. :)

Well I have the KRK5s right now and someone sent me something to listen to and I thought the bass level was pretty darn good but when a sub was thrown into the mix the bass was boomy. I probably should have invested another $200 for the KRK8s for added bass response.


Definitely in a good brand though... I absolutely loved my friend's old V8s.
 
Telephant":e5457 said:
You guys make this shit way too complicated. :D


I just open up protools, put a 57 in front of the grill, and tear it up baby!!!!! :rock:

Seriously though, I barely know how to turn on a plug in or use the compressors. I suck at teh studio. :cry:


Outsource... Lay down the sick shit at home on your time and your dime... Then bring it somewhere when it's all got to come together. After a little while, I think ears will adjust to what's need in the very end in a studio environment and translate that back into changes done on the front end of things at home. It isn't the absolute best way to do things, but dang, it works for me.
 
Digital Jams":38f45 said:
I have also heard that Samplitude has the best a-d converters but I thought that by owning Cubase VST that I would be ready to go with Cubase4 Studio......man was I wrong :doh:

AD/DA conversions are done via hardware.
 
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