Back in '05, my other guitarist had both the Vetta II and an HD147 before moving on to tube amps when he was able to afford them, both of those amps SMOKED my Marshall 6100 and Framus Cobra I was playing through. I was floored. Then both of us got 5150 BL heads and we never looked back but still, both of those L6 amps can certainly hold their own. Theres been many buzzed nights I've almost bought both for nostalgia factor but I have too much shit already and plus I wouldn't play them often enough to warrant owning them. Good shit!