Marshall Mini Jubilee 20 Watt head

[artie253]

I am about to buy one of these. I have a full half stack of the 2555. I'm looking to downsize my rig because it's takes up way too much room on the tiny stages we play. I'm wondering if the mini Jubilee head and a single vintage 30 112 cabinet will be loud enough???? I play in a 2 guitar/keys band...I play mostly lead. top 40 stuff. Any one have one of these?

 

[napalmdeath]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

 

[MistaGuitah]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

I disagree, and I just played one today. There's a nearby store which had the 2525 and the EVH EL34 50w which are two I had consideration for. I know the 100w Silver Jubilee well too. The biggest disappointment was the EVH. The surprise was the 2525. I've read comments like this and honestly it was kind of turning me off to the amp before ever playing one. The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with Vintage 30's, and I used it for both amps.

Here's the thing, I really think a lot of people approach the 2555x or 2525 trying to approach it in the usual way. It's not an amp that you set everything on 12:00 and start from there. It sounds good with everything on 12:00, but at the right volume. The settings have to be changed when you change power modes too. The 5w mode, just like it's big brother, is darker and spongier than full power.

I thought the 2525 was so easy to get great sounds. Man the cleans are really great, especially if you dial in some presence, take out a little of the mids, and turn the treble up a bit. Both totally clean and with the boost for a pushed clean sound very satisfying. The gain is really nice on this amp. The classic Jubilee cannot sound this good with the clipping diodes at the volume level this is capable of.

If I were you, I'd take the critics with a grain of salt and give the 2525 an honest try. It's an extremely good amplifier and well worth the money. What some people have said about the low end is kind of true, but not as exaggerated as some would have you believe. They must be used to super tight amps or something. The low end is very good up until you try to start playing the heaviest styles which requires a tighter low end. Even that's not a problem because I can tell you that I used a Fulltone Fulldrive II mosfet (the blue one with 2 switches) and it really helped the amp go into heavy territory because it gave some extra gain and also has this feature to manage the compression.

On the other hand, the EVH 5153 EL34 50w was a huge let down. I was going to give it a review so I won't elaborate too much here. Let's just say that the 2525 is a couple of levels higher than the EVH. I'm quite pleased that the 2525 turned out to be such a good amplifier. You should give it a try and really test the controls because a little goes a long way.

 

[Racerxrated]

I am about to buy one of these. I have a full half stack of the 2555. I'm looking to downsize my rig because it's takes up way too much room on the tiny stages we play. I'm wondering if the mini Jubilee head and a single vintage 30 112 cabinet will be loud enough???? I play in a 2 guitar/keys band...I play mostly lead. top 40 stuff. Any one have one of these?

I would think a 212 would be best, 1x12 might not be able to keep up with a drummer...

 

[artie253]

Thanks for the input....I agree with the EVH, I hated it also. Next question would be an affordable cabinet that sounds good. I have 2 V30 speakers already. I was looking at Seismic cabinets. They sell them empty, seem pretty solid, birch plywood and under $200.

 

[Gadzz]

The Friedman DS Mini 1x12 with V30 is a Killer TINY solution.. sounds Fantastic as well! Fits everywhere!

 

[napalmdeath]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

I disagree, and I just played one today. There's a nearby store which had the 2525 and the EVH EL34 50w which are two I had consideration for. I know the 100w Silver Jubilee well too. The biggest disappointment was the EVH. The surprise was the 2525. I've read comments like this and honestly it was kind of turning me off to the amp before ever playing one. The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with Vintage 30's, and I used it for both amps.

Here's the thing, I really think a lot of people approach the 2555x or 2525 trying to approach it in the usual way. It's not an amp that you set everything on 12:00 and start from there. It sounds good with everything on 12:00, but at the right volume. The settings have to be changed when you change power modes too. The 5w mode, just like it's big brother, is darker and spongier than full power.

I thought the 2525 was so easy to get great sounds. Man the cleans are really great, especially if you dial in some presence, take out a little of the mids, and turn the treble up a bit. Both totally clean and with the boost for a pushed clean sound very satisfying. The gain is really nice on this amp. The classic Jubilee cannot sound this good with the clipping diodes at the volume level this is capable of.

If I were you, I'd take the critics with a grain of salt and give the 2525 an honest try. It's an extremely good amplifier and well worth the money. What some people have said about the low end is kind of true, but not as exaggerated as some would have you believe. They must be used to super tight amps or something. The low end is very good up until you try to start playing the heaviest styles which requires a tighter low end. Even that's not a problem because I can tell you that I used a Fulltone Fulldrive II mosfet (the blue one with 2 switches) and it really helped the amp go into heavy territory because it gave some extra gain and also has this feature to manage the compression.

On the other hand, the EVH 5153 EL34 50w was a huge let down. I was going to give it a review so I won't elaborate too much here. Let's just say that the 2525 is a couple of levels higher than the EVH. I'm quite pleased that the 2525 turned out to be such a good amplifier. You should give it a try and really test the controls because a little goes a long way.

I suppose it's subjective, and everyone has their own expectations. I had the 2525H, and ran it through a V30/G12T loaded Randall 4x12. I was disappointed, and returned it. I ended up exchanging it for a Mark V 25. That amp shit on the 2525H, & the EVH, (owned it twice).

OP: Consider a Mark V 25!

 

[MistaGuitah]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

I disagree, and I just played one today. There's a nearby store which had the 2525 and the EVH EL34 50w which are two I had consideration for. I know the 100w Silver Jubilee well too. The biggest disappointment was the EVH. The surprise was the 2525. I've read comments like this and honestly it was kind of turning me off to the amp before ever playing one. The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with Vintage 30's, and I used it for both amps.

Here's the thing, I really think a lot of people approach the 2555x or 2525 trying to approach it in the usual way. It's not an amp that you set everything on 12:00 and start from there. It sounds good with everything on 12:00, but at the right volume. The settings have to be changed when you change power modes too. The 5w mode, just like it's big brother, is darker and spongier than full power.

I thought the 2525 was so easy to get great sounds. Man the cleans are really great, especially if you dial in some presence, take out a little of the mids, and turn the treble up a bit. Both totally clean and with the boost for a pushed clean sound very satisfying. The gain is really nice on this amp. The classic Jubilee cannot sound this good with the clipping diodes at the volume level this is capable of.

If I were you, I'd take the critics with a grain of salt and give the 2525 an honest try. It's an extremely good amplifier and well worth the money. What some people have said about the low end is kind of true, but not as exaggerated as some would have you believe. They must be used to super tight amps or something. The low end is very good up until you try to start playing the heaviest styles which requires a tighter low end. Even that's not a problem because I can tell you that I used a Fulltone Fulldrive II mosfet (the blue one with 2 switches) and it really helped the amp go into heavy territory because it gave some extra gain and also has this feature to manage the compression.

On the other hand, the EVH 5153 EL34 50w was a huge let down. I was going to give it a review so I won't elaborate too much here. Let's just say that the 2525 is a couple of levels higher than the EVH. I'm quite pleased that the 2525 turned out to be such a good amplifier. You should give it a try and really test the controls because a little goes a long way.

I suppose it's subjective, and everyone has their own expectations. I had the 2525H, and ran it through a V30/G12T loaded Randall 4x12. I was disappointed, and returned it. I ended up exchanging it for a Mark V 25. That amp shit on the 2525H, & the EVH, (owned it twice).

OP: Consider a Mark V 25!

The Mark 25 is good, but I don't see how anyone would like it better than the Mark V. As far as "shitting" on the other amps, well I don't think going that far is helpful to people with serious inquiries. It's also a whole different animal with a very different kind of tube. When the Mark V came out, it was king for a long time. Then the Mark V25 came out and everyone ran to it. Then the JP2C came out, the crowd clamors, and proclaims it better than the Mark V. I do not agree since I never follow the crowd. I think when the dust settles, the Mark V is still king. Perhaps a significant part of the appeal of the JP2C is that it's a little simpler amp than the Mark V. How I got sucked into that discussion, I'm not sure, but on the topic of the 2525, I think it's just a matter of taste and not fair to proclaim that it's inferior to whatever other Marshall. The thing about Marshalls is that people seem to approach every Marshall with similar expectations, but the Silver Jubilee is a different beast.

 

[napalmdeath]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

I disagree, and I just played one today. There's a nearby store which had the 2525 and the EVH EL34 50w which are two I had consideration for. I know the 100w Silver Jubilee well too. The biggest disappointment was the EVH. The surprise was the 2525. I've read comments like this and honestly it was kind of turning me off to the amp before ever playing one. The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with Vintage 30's, and I used it for both amps.

Here's the thing, I really think a lot of people approach the 2555x or 2525 trying to approach it in the usual way. It's not an amp that you set everything on 12:00 and start from there. It sounds good with everything on 12:00, but at the right volume. The settings have to be changed when you change power modes too. The 5w mode, just like it's big brother, is darker and spongier than full power.

I thought the 2525 was so easy to get great sounds. Man the cleans are really great, especially if you dial in some presence, take out a little of the mids, and turn the treble up a bit. Both totally clean and with the boost for a pushed clean sound very satisfying. The gain is really nice on this amp. The classic Jubilee cannot sound this good with the clipping diodes at the volume level this is capable of.

If I were you, I'd take the critics with a grain of salt and give the 2525 an honest try. It's an extremely good amplifier and well worth the money. What some people have said about the low end is kind of true, but not as exaggerated as some would have you believe. They must be used to super tight amps or something. The low end is very good up until you try to start playing the heaviest styles which requires a tighter low end. Even that's not a problem because I can tell you that I used a Fulltone Fulldrive II mosfet (the blue one with 2 switches) and it really helped the amp go into heavy territory because it gave some extra gain and also has this feature to manage the compression.

On the other hand, the EVH 5153 EL34 50w was a huge let down. I was going to give it a review so I won't elaborate too much here. Let's just say that the 2525 is a couple of levels higher than the EVH. I'm quite pleased that the 2525 turned out to be such a good amplifier. You should give it a try and really test the controls because a little goes a long way.

I suppose it's subjective, and everyone has their own expectations. I had the 2525H, and ran it through a V30/G12T loaded Randall 4x12. I was disappointed, and returned it. I ended up exchanging it for a Mark V 25. That amp shit on the 2525H, & the EVH, (owned it twice).

OP: Consider a Mark V 25!

The Mark 25 is good, but I don't see how anyone would like it better than the Mark V. As far as "shitting" on the other amps, well I don't think going that far is helpful to people with serious inquiries. It's also a whole different animal with a very different kind of tube. When the Mark V came out, it was king for a long time. Then the Mark V25 came out and everyone ran to it. Then the JP2C came out, the crowd clamors, and proclaims it better than the Mark V. I do not agree since I never follow the crowd. I think when the dust settles, the Mark V is still king. Perhaps a significant part of the appeal of the JP2C is that it's a little simpler amp than the Mark V. How I got sucked into that discussion, I'm not sure, but on the topic of the 2525, I think it's just a matter of taste and not fair to proclaim that it's inferior to whatever other Marshall. The thing about Marshalls is that people seem to approach every Marshall with similar expectations, but the Silver Jubilee is a different beast.

It's "not fair" to have an opinion?? I didn't like the 2525H and stated why. It's subjective, it's an opinion, and we're all entitled to have one. Don't get in an uproar...

 

[MistaGuitah]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

I disagree, and I just played one today. There's a nearby store which had the 2525 and the EVH EL34 50w which are two I had consideration for. I know the 100w Silver Jubilee well too. The biggest disappointment was the EVH. The surprise was the 2525. I've read comments like this and honestly it was kind of turning me off to the amp before ever playing one. The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with Vintage 30's, and I used it for both amps.

Here's the thing, I really think a lot of people approach the 2555x or 2525 trying to approach it in the usual way. It's not an amp that you set everything on 12:00 and start from there. It sounds good with everything on 12:00, but at the right volume. The settings have to be changed when you change power modes too. The 5w mode, just like it's big brother, is darker and spongier than full power.

I thought the 2525 was so easy to get great sounds. Man the cleans are really great, especially if you dial in some presence, take out a little of the mids, and turn the treble up a bit. Both totally clean and with the boost for a pushed clean sound very satisfying. The gain is really nice on this amp. The classic Jubilee cannot sound this good with the clipping diodes at the volume level this is capable of.

If I were you, I'd take the critics with a grain of salt and give the 2525 an honest try. It's an extremely good amplifier and well worth the money. What some people have said about the low end is kind of true, but not as exaggerated as some would have you believe. They must be used to super tight amps or something. The low end is very good up until you try to start playing the heaviest styles which requires a tighter low end. Even that's not a problem because I can tell you that I used a Fulltone Fulldrive II mosfet (the blue one with 2 switches) and it really helped the amp go into heavy territory because it gave some extra gain and also has this feature to manage the compression.

On the other hand, the EVH 5153 EL34 50w was a huge let down. I was going to give it a review so I won't elaborate too much here. Let's just say that the 2525 is a couple of levels higher than the EVH. I'm quite pleased that the 2525 turned out to be such a good amplifier. You should give it a try and really test the controls because a little goes a long way.

I suppose it's subjective, and everyone has their own expectations. I had the 2525H, and ran it through a V30/G12T loaded Randall 4x12. I was disappointed, and returned it. I ended up exchanging it for a Mark V 25. That amp shit on the 2525H, & the EVH, (owned it twice).

OP: Consider a Mark V 25!

The Mark 25 is good, but I don't see how anyone would like it better than the Mark V. As far as "shitting" on the other amps, well I don't think going that far is helpful to people with serious inquiries. It's also a whole different animal with a very different kind of tube. When the Mark V came out, it was king for a long time. Then the Mark V25 came out and everyone ran to it. Then the JP2C came out, the crowd clamors, and proclaims it better than the Mark V. I do not agree since I never follow the crowd. I think when the dust settles, the Mark V is still king. Perhaps a significant part of the appeal of the JP2C is that it's a little simpler amp than the Mark V. How I got sucked into that discussion, I'm not sure, but on the topic of the 2525, I think it's just a matter of taste and not fair to proclaim that it's inferior to whatever other Marshall. The thing about Marshalls is that people seem to approach every Marshall with similar expectations, but the Silver Jubilee is a different beast.

It's "not fair" to have an opinion?? I didn't like the 2525H and stated why. It's subjective, it's an opinion, and we're all entitled to have one. Don't get in an uproar...

I hope you can realize how reactionary and irrational you're being. You're reading things that simply aren't there my friend. You have the right to your opinion as much as someone else has the right to say your opinion sucks, but that has nothing to do with anything I said. I said that "it's not fair to proclaim that it's inferior to whatever other Marshall." I don't know how you possibly thought it had anything to do with your opinion. To put it simply, what I said means is that it's just as good as the 2555x, JVM205, DSL, JCM800 or whatever. It uses the same quality components, good circuit design, stylish, and so on. It has nothing to do with you having a right to your opinion.

How in the world did you come to the conclusion that I was in an "uproar" based on anything I posted? You should probably take a step back and calm down. Do you not see that you're being a bit irrational here? Nobody is attacking you.

 

[napalmdeath]

It's definitely a step back, tonally. It's not as raw and much looser than the big boy!

I disagree, and I just played one today. There's a nearby store which had the 2525 and the EVH EL34 50w which are two I had consideration for. I know the 100w Silver Jubilee well too. The biggest disappointment was the EVH. The surprise was the 2525. I've read comments like this and honestly it was kind of turning me off to the amp before ever playing one. The cab was a Marshall 4x12 with Vintage 30's, and I used it for both amps.

Here's the thing, I really think a lot of people approach the 2555x or 2525 trying to approach it in the usual way. It's not an amp that you set everything on 12:00 and start from there. It sounds good with everything on 12:00, but at the right volume. The settings have to be changed when you change power modes too. The 5w mode, just like it's big brother, is darker and spongier than full power.

I thought the 2525 was so easy to get great sounds. Man the cleans are really great, especially if you dial in some presence, take out a little of the mids, and turn the treble up a bit. Both totally clean and with the boost for a pushed clean sound very satisfying. The gain is really nice on this amp. The classic Jubilee cannot sound this good with the clipping diodes at the volume level this is capable of.

If I were you, I'd take the critics with a grain of salt and give the 2525 an honest try. It's an extremely good amplifier and well worth the money. What some people have said about the low end is kind of true, but not as exaggerated as some would have you believe. They must be used to super tight amps or something. The low end is very good up until you try to start playing the heaviest styles which requires a tighter low end. Even that's not a problem because I can tell you that I used a Fulltone Fulldrive II mosfet (the blue one with 2 switches) and it really helped the amp go into heavy territory because it gave some extra gain and also has this feature to manage the compression.

On the other hand, the EVH 5153 EL34 50w was a huge let down. I was going to give it a review so I won't elaborate too much here. Let's just say that the 2525 is a couple of levels higher than the EVH. I'm quite pleased that the 2525 turned out to be such a good amplifier. You should give it a try and really test the controls because a little goes a long way.

I suppose it's subjective, and everyone has their own expectations. I had the 2525H, and ran it through a V30/G12T loaded Randall 4x12. I was disappointed, and returned it. I ended up exchanging it for a Mark V 25. That amp shit on the 2525H, & the EVH, (owned it twice).

OP: Consider a Mark V 25!

The Mark 25 is good, but I don't see how anyone would like it better than the Mark V. As far as "shitting" on the other amps, well I don't think going that far is helpful to people with serious inquiries. It's also a whole different animal with a very different kind of tube. When the Mark V came out, it was king for a long time. Then the Mark V25 came out and everyone ran to it. Then the JP2C came out, the crowd clamors, and proclaims it better than the Mark V. I do not agree since I never follow the crowd. I think when the dust settles, the Mark V is still king. Perhaps a significant part of the appeal of the JP2C is that it's a little simpler amp than the Mark V. How I got sucked into that discussion, I'm not sure, but on the topic of the 2525, I think it's just a matter of taste and not fair to proclaim that it's inferior to whatever other Marshall. The thing about Marshalls is that people seem to approach every Marshall with similar expectations, but the Silver Jubilee is a different beast.

It's "not fair" to have an opinion?? I didn't like the 2525H and stated why. It's subjective, it's an opinion, and we're all entitled to have one. Don't get in an uproar...

I hope you can realize how reactionary and irrational you're being. You're reading things that simply aren't there my friend. You have the right to your opinion as much as someone else has the right to say your opinion sucks, but that has nothing to do with anything I said. I said that "it's not fair to proclaim that it's inferior to whatever other Marshall." I don't know how you possibly thought it had anything to do with your opinion. To put it simply, what I said means is that it's just as good as the 2555x, JVM205, DSL, JCM800 or whatever. It uses the same quality components, good circuit design, stylish, and so on. It has nothing to do with you having a right to your opinion.

How in the world did you come to the conclusion that I was in an "uproar" based on anything I posted? You should probably take a step back and calm down. Do you not see that you're being a bit irrational here? Nobody is attacking you.

Fair enough. Bottom line, I found the 2525H's tone inferior to the 2555X, and very grainy. I never said anything about components, build, etc., or compared it to other Marshalls. I would pick a DSL50 over it for my tastes, or, again, the Mark V 25, in a lower watt amp. Probably the best 20-25 watt I've played/owned.

I would encourage OP to use his ears.

 

[LP Freak]

Thanks for the input....I agree with the EVH, I hated it also. Next question would be an affordable cabinet that sounds good. I have 2 V30 speakers already. I was looking at Seismic cabinets. They sell them empty, seem pretty solid, birch plywood and under $200.

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[Racerxrated]

Thanks for the input....I agree with the EVH, I hated it also. Next question would be an affordable cabinet that sounds good. I have 2 V30 speakers already. I was looking at Seismic cabinets. They sell them empty, seem pretty solid, birch plywood and under $200.

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Avatar makes good stuff...you can also check out GC used or Craigslist, they are all over the place, all types of 2x12s for sale.

 

[napalmdeath]

Hard to beat an Avatar for the price. However, I'd jump on a Mesa Thiele, if you find one empty.

 

[cust22]

I just picked up the little combo. I like it so far. It's about 40lbs so its nice and convenient to grab and go.

 

[Chris6870]

Somebody point me to a clip that will make me want this amp. I have yet to see one.

 

[napalmdeath]

Somebody point me to a clip that will make me want this amp. I have yet to see one.

This one persuaded me to buy the head. Of course, YMMV... Of course, "loud" is obviously a factor.

 

[napalmdeath]

Another thing to consider about the 2525H, is there's no bias adjustment. Now, in MY case, the particular amp I had was so cold, it wasn't funny. Which could have, (and probably did), contribute to the grainy character and looseness I experienced. IIRC, the plate voltage was in the high 200's, and the set of factory Tungsol EL34's were running between 45-50% dissipation, which doesn't even get out of crossover distortion, (unless I'm missing something). Regardless, the inability to adjust it was a dealer-breaker. Sure, I could have hunted down a warmer pair, but finding the right rating without knowing what works, seemed like rolling the dice, and an unnecessary expense to get a new amp to function as it should be. A bias adjustment just makes more sense!

 

[MistaGuitah]

I just picked up the little combo. I like it so far. It's about 40lbs so its nice and convenient to grab and go.

Yep the combo is really nice. It packs a nice wattage and a lot of flexibility in a portable size/weight. For the money it's one of the best values out there.

 

[sideshowsmitty]

I have the Mini Jub with the veritcal 2x12 cabinet and love it. Its plenty loud for any gig I've done. I filled in for an Aerosmith tribute band and that amp was next to an Ampeg 8x10. It was an outdoor gig and I had the volume on 7 and that amp screams! I haven't touched my Quickrod since I got it. It takes pedals well and has a good loop too.
I have a DSL40C with a Creamback in it, and that is as good or better than the mini Jub imo. Both great amps.