"Marshall" Proprietary Vintage 30 UK vs Chinese

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Here is another one to add to your list. Marshall Vintage 30MF. Stock in the Mode Four MF280 cab that I have. Supposedly a slightly less spiky in the mids version of the V30. I like them quite a bit actually!
 

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fek":2lw33qha said:
Here is another one to add to your list. Marshall Vintage 30MF. Stock in the Mode Four MF280 cab that I have. Supposedly a slightly less spiky in the mids version of the V30. I like them quite a bit actually!
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Those were later relabled Relic 30's. I have a pair in my 1960A along with some Chinese V30's. They sound killer. They're a bit darker (yet tighter) than Mesa V30's. I believe most of those Vintage 30 MF's were UK-made, but I've seen the MIC sticker on them too.
 
Racerxrated":ri2stdup said:
An 87 Jubilee AV cab with the first year 8 Ohm Marshall Vintages, GREAT sounding cab.
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Were all those early Jubilee cabs 8 ohms, as a rule ?
 
FourT6and2":1bbxfjvg said:
In my experience, the Marshall V30s are brighter and thinner. The Mesa are darker and thicker. The Chinese are sort of in between.
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I agree..but, if you have a chance to play through the 86-87 first version Marshall Vintages you would be shocked as to how fat and warm they sound. They were designed to be a higher wattage greenback, but with a modern twist. Better to my ears than the 90s Marshall vintages by a long shot.
 
thegame":rpm5axir said:
Racerxrated":rpm5axir said:
An 87 Jubilee AV cab with the first year 8 Ohm Marshall Vintages, GREAT sounding cab.
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Were all those early Jubilee cabs 8 ohms, as a rule ?
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I think so, I've had an A and B Jubilee cab both with the 8 ohm vintages. Great speaker and more rounded, fat and warmer than the 90s versions.
 
Rex Rocker":3m8hswnk said:
fek":3m8hswnk said:
Here is another one to add to your list. Marshall Vintage 30MF. Stock in the Mode Four MF280 cab that I have. Supposedly a slightly less spiky in the mids version of the V30. I like them quite a bit actually!
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Those were later relabled Relic 30's. I have a pair in my 1960A along with some Chinese V30's. They sound killer. They're a bit darker (yet tighter) than Mesa V30's. I believe most of those Vintage 30 MF's were UK-made, but I've seen the MIC sticker on them too.
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Those are great speakers. G12 65s are my fav with any Marshall, and those MF V30s are very close to 65s, when I had both cabs side by side.
 
fek":2mfyaubg said:
Here is another one to add to your list. Marshall Vintage 30MF. Stock in the Mode Four MF280 cab that I have. Supposedly a slightly less spiky in the mids version of the V30. I like them quite a bit actually!
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I believe those are the same V30’s my buddy has in one of his cabs. Sounded KILLER with my SLO. Even a little better than the old 90’s V30s in my Bogner. And the Chinese V30’s I used to have...it wasn’t even close. SLO didn’t sound good at all with those.
 
Every cabinet even if made the same day is going to sound different. Every individual speaker ever made is going to sound different.
You can take twenty speakers made the same day and every one of them is going to sound different.
 
stephen sawall":2sinf9qd said:
Every cabinet even if made the same day is going to sound different. Every individual speaker ever made is going to sound different.
You can take twenty speakers made the same day and every one of them is going to sound different.
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very true... here is a case in point. Its not chinese speakers as such, that are the problem, its individual speakers that can be affected regardless of the country of origin. Ive heard of whole runs sounding like ass because they weren't "magnetized" properly and needed to be "zapped" again to sound right.,,,thats coming from a boutique speaker makers experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LR9YRetwU0c&t=40s
 
I was pretty amazed how different identical speakers and cabs sounded. It really comes down to the individual pieces of gear.
They sound as different as identical guitars.
 
Well let's not get carried away. Speakers aren't snowflakes, each different from the other.
If you have 10 of the same speakers, only 1... maybe 2 will sound different when played through the same enclosure. Mainly due to an anomaly during production. Otherwise, modern quality control on assembly lines is quite consistent.
 
stephen sawall":2y5lx1jt said:
Every cabinet even if made the same day is going to sound different. Every individual speaker ever made is going to sound different.
You can take twenty speakers made the same day and every one of them is going to sound different.
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What I have noticed is that new cabinets from a "good" manufacturer will be very consistent.

That being said, used cabinets will sound quite different as the are effected by use and other environmental contributors. Cabs that are gigged heavily will over time have a more dampened (warm tone) just from the cabinet alone.. The baffles both front and back as well as the bracing do not remain as mechanically bonded as a cab that is never moved and kept in a climate controlled environment. Between the constant moving, flexing, humidity and temperature changes the bonds between the baffles and frame become less tight. Also like any untreated wood, it ages. If you find a 20 year old gigged marshal cab, open it up and see how much you can tighten the baffle screws. Usually quite a bit, although I like it damped a bit. Now for speakers, that a given that they change over time.
 
Most vintage marshall cabs Ive heard are on the brighter side... Ive heard and played through many
 
I completely agree consistency is in general getting much better by most manufacturers.
 
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