Metallica’s Rigs 2023 tour

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VESmedic said:
You mean like, how you can ignore these threads, and me?
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I have absolutely no problem with you and I never have.
I’m not sure why you feel I’ve somehow singled you out?

It’s not your business what threads I post in or read.
 
Tone Monster said:
If modelers were 100% all the way there, wouldn't the tube amp industry die overnight? I think they are very close. In fact, I think clean, lead, and bass sounds are there. Something just doesn't hit right with high gain rhythm. Coulda been user error. Hated mine so I gave it away lol (AXE III). Spent around 10 hours or so fucking with it. I guess it does the br00tZ tone according to you guys. Those tones, digital or tube, don't appeal to me in any way. I'm in no way loyal to tube amps either. I'd love to have a box that has every great tone ever. The Kemper sounded better to my ears but was still a little off.
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Why would the tube amp industry die? I still love tube amps. This shit ain’t Highlander, man.

I haven’t read the other posts after this so I dunno what else was said, but that’s another point of me getting a chuckle, “I spent 10 hours with it” in the comparison of how many years the average guitarist on here has put into learning how to dial in amps and pedals at pickups work best for ya just seems a bit shortsighted. The depth of what that unit can do can’t even be demo’d in 10 hours.
 
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Tone Monster said:
Coulda been user error. Hated mine so I gave it away lol (AXE III). Spent around 10 hours or so fucking with it.
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If you don’t have at least two solid weeks to figure out the AXE you are wasting your time.
 
RevDrucifer said:
Why would the tube amp industry die? I still love tube amps. This shit ain’t Highlander, man.

I haven’t read the other posts after this so I dunno what else was said, but that’s another point of me getting a chuckle, “I spent 10 hours with it” in the comparison of how many years the average guitarist on here has put into learning how to dial in amps and pedals at pickups work best for ya just seems a bit shortsighted. The depth of what that unit can do can’t even be demo’d in 10 hours.
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I’ve been playing guitar for 30 years. If you “get a chuckle” because I can’t dial in a decent high gain tone in 10 fucking hours then it’s definitely not for me. That’s ludicrous.

I understand all the AXE rabbit holes with effects but I didn’t waste any time with any of that stuff.
 
Dialing in tones takes the same Amount of time on the axe as it does on real amps for me. And it’s Much less if you start including mic placement time etc.
 
VESmedic said:
What you said is true, and I’ll be honest the IR I used for that 5150 and 5153 axe fx clip is an IR from “a somebody”, but at the same time, it’s just a simple 57 on a recto cabinet, that’s it! This is a perfect example of why I preach spending time finding the right spot etc, because a single 57 should be more than enough, and it is in my opinion. I also have a room that’s tuned really well and great monitoring. I’m not saying I can make all these sounds on my own with no help, that’s for sure! But at the same time, it’s really just about trial and error and learning what works in a mix and what doesn’t. These are very bright, but they would be just barely bright enough for a modern metal mix, I promise you. Atleast from the producers I like anyways, which is often not the dark, murky, soft sounding tones people go after nowadays either.

I’ve never ever been a fan of ownhammer. People may think I’m crazy etc, but then you hear an actually great sounding IR from someone that knows what he’s doing, and it’s like oh…. THATS what it supposed to sound like. They are far, far too dark to be actually used in a real production in my opinion. No one I know would ever, ever use those, it is what it is. But if people like them, so be it. But most IR’s available commercially are just too fucking dark, these guys are afraid to get the mic right up on the cone. It’s ALWAYS easier to take high end out of your guitar tone and make it sound natural than it is to try and add back in what wasn’t there in the first place, which you get by micing right up on the cone, moving centimeters at a time off of it to find the tone you are looking for. There’s very few of those out there in my opinion, however:

The IR’s I used in my entire mix I posted are all commercially available IR’s: titan audio. These are Zach’s from whitechapels IR’s he made. Those are the only other ones I use, along with EAS IR’s as well. But the one I posted in my 5150 and 5153 clip is my favorite for sure. I would strongly suggest if you like some of those tones, to check out titan audio’s IR’s. He learned everything he knows and uses the same gear as the engineer/producer of the IR I was using in the 5150 and 5153 clips.
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Hey Ves, are these the ones you’re referring to? I assumed it was a Mesa cab not a Marshall though.

https://www.titanaudioproject.com/shop/p/titan-ir-bundle-1
 
I recently saw Shinedown in Niagara . Zach I think is all Fractal
There was not a cabinet in sight on stage and the sounded great
Chunky rhythms and solos that easily cut through the mix and were crystal clear
I did not notice any loss of tone being digital
 
I enjoy tube amps (Marshall, Engl, Fender), solid state amps (Randall) and digital modelers.

One of my favorite rigs is my Line 6 Catalyst + HX Effects; I use 4CM and MIDI to change the amp preset (there's 12 total) and turn the amp boost on/off. Easy to use, can get loud down to silent; DI and phones out work great. Very happy with this rig, and the simplicity and versatility.

:dunno:
 
Chronic Narnia said:
Hey Ves, are these the ones you’re referring to? I assumed it was a Mesa cab not a Marshall though.

https://www.titanaudioproject.com/shop/p/titan-ir-bundle-1
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They are :) the tones in the full band mix is all those IR’s. Specifically one of the creamback 65 IR’s I believe. There is a few Mesa IR’s in that pack, however it’s mostly the Marshall cab. Those Marshall cabs are my favorite cabs on the planet, the Marshall celestion vintage speakers are my all time fav for sure.
 
VESmedic said:
They are :) the tones in the full band mix is all those IR’s. Specifically one of the creamback 65 IR’s I believe. There is a few Mesa IR’s in that pack, however it’s mostly the Marshall cab. Those Marshall cabs are my favorite cabs on the planet, the Marshall celestion vintage speakers are my all time fav for sure.
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Thanks ?
 
rsm said:
I enjoy tube amps (Marshall, Engl, Fender), solid state amps (Randall) and digital modelers.

One of my favorite rigs is my Line 6 Catalyst + HX Effects; I use 4CM and MIDI to change the amp preset (there's 12 total) and turn the amp boost on/off. Easy to use, can get loud down to silent; DI and phones out work great. Very happy with this rig, and the simplicity and versatility.

:dunno:
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I actually enjoy both as well...But I do prefer the "feel" of a tube amp when in the room. And no, I can't fully describe what I mean by that....But I know it's there.
 
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