Mod 7 : Modding a 20w el84 amp to get the closest brown sound possible compared to the records

[Amp_chaser]

Here's your benchmark tone..

I'll leave it to you to figure out the difference.

i think i'm getting there. Eddie said that his tone was insanely bright that's why he didn't like it. I bet that donn landee is the man who tamed the brightness.

 

[SpiderWars]

FWIW, there was an old post by Chris Merren that a Jose mod he saw had the transistors for clippers, he said they were connected B-E-E-B.

TBH, all those clips sound terrible to me and nothing like VH1 or 2. Not trying to be a dick but I always want honest critique so that’s why I’m saying it. It doesn’t sound like a recording problem either.

IMO, it’s not a hard sound to get super close. A really good 100W Marshall NMV, variac’d, cranked, into an old 4x12 with Celestion Blackbacks. If you want to get even closer get a cab with JBLs and run both. If it’s a really good Marshall it will get really close plugged straight in, sometimes they need a little help from an EQ but not much.

 

[Amp_chaser]

FWIW, there was an old post by Chris Merren that a Jose mod he saw had the transistors for clippers, he said they were connected B-E-E-B.

TBH, all those clips sound terrible to me and nothing like VH1 or 2. Not trying to be a dick but I always want honest critique so that’s why I’m saying it. It doesn’t sound like a recording problem either.

IMO, it’s not a hard sound to get super close. A really good 100W Marshall NMV, variac’d, cranked, into an old 4x12 with Celestion Blackbacks. If you want to get even closer get a cab with JBLs and run both. If it’s a really good Marshall it will get really close plugged straight in, sometimes they need a little help from an EQ but not much.

You’re right those clips aren’t great because I recorded with drivers that didn’t work with audacity the rtwd riff was recorded with cakewalk which literally improved everything. But I will record this amp in a studio I’m just waiting for my echoplex to come by mail.

 

[Devin]

I finally found the issue clips are updated my 2I2 drivers just don't work well with audacity here is a record with cakewalk :



this is the stock amp with the schaffer storm only and some reverb from cakewalk.

It still sounds incredibly buzzy and odd man

 

[Speeddemon]

It sounds more like you're recording to a line input with a mic or vice versa, because it sounds distorted and scratchy as hell.

Or some cab simulator was forgotten... if you'd plug the FX-loop send from a tube amp directly into a mixing desk, it would sound mostly like this too.
Please, double, no triple check your recording chain.

Guitar-->amp-->speaker cab-->mic-->mic preamp (not line input!)-->DAW/mixing desk.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

As psychodave said, just throw your phone up in the room.. you can revisit recording issues another day. I hear the splatty wild gain thing but it sounds like a direct recording off an amp before you apply the speaker IR

 

[WarHed]

Without the 82k plate resistor your phase inverter will only be half working? That's got to be the cause of the messed up sound...

 

[Ben Waylin]

i think i'm getting there. Eddie said that his tone was insanely bright that's why he didn't like it. I bet that donn landee is the man who tamed the brightness.

Not sure where you're getting your "tone" info from, bro.