Most disappointing amp

[angelspade]

I will just say, it's a picky MFer and it's easy to make it sound bad. Every demo on YouTube is done with V30s and I hate that amp with V30s. I wish I could teleport people to my amp room so they can hear my setup for it . I have an MK3 Herbert as well which works great with V30s. Hagen has some upper mids that all the other Diezels don't really have, so the typical Diezel setup doesn't work for it imo.

The hagen is a very good amp...I just prefered the VH4 over it after owning both at the same time. Many disagree with me, but the Hagen seems like a VH4 with some Herbert DNA. I actually thought that it lacked the upper mids that are inherent to the VH4, but had a lot of the low-mid thickness associated with the Herbert. It also has the Herbert's top end sizzle, which the VH4 lacks.

 

[Matt300ZXT]

The amp that probably disappointed me the most was a Peavey 3120 (XXX). I liked the XXX the few minutes I spent with it back when it was new. I traded a Marshall cab for a clean condition 3120 with a friend and I kinda dug it for about 4 or 5 days, but it faded fast and I just couldn't really ever get much out of it that I liked. I still feel that's the most disappointing amp, and I've had a Blue Voodoo. However, I went in knowing it probably wasn't going to sound that great, so it didn't really disappoint lol

 

[GuitarGuy08]

I used to feel that way, but its nice to have like a bigger low end amp... and then have a bunch of drive pedals to color the signal on the way in... which only gives you more tonal variety.

If the amp itself is already kind of tight, it limits your options or... it just takes pedals like shit.

True but if you can make an amp loose or tight.... Yes.... This is the way. My Rivera clubster Royale recording can do that. That being said, my Marshall definitely doesn't have that much range. I still love it. I'm just saying I wouldn't pay for or 5K for an amp and always have to have something else to make it make me happy. I am not one who has money like that though either.

 

[BlackMetal]

The hagen is a very good amp...I just prefered the VH4 over it after owning both at the same time. Many disagree with me, but the Hagen seems like a VH4 with some Herbert DNA. I actually thought that it lacked the upper mids that are inherent to the VH4, but had a lot of the low-mid thickness associated with the Herbert. It also has the Herbert's top end sizzle, which the VH4 lacks.

No, that's accurate. It has that Herbert low end looseness to it. I think the VH4 is tighter and sounds like it has a higher amount of negative feedback built into it which gives it it's extreme compression (which its detractors seem to hate). Hagen is definitely the least user friendly out of the three. Like I said, it's very picky (speakers, pickups, pedals, cab). It could be my pride in finding out how to make it work that leads me to enjoy playing it.