Motor City Torque or Afwayu for hardrock/stoner rock?

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I'm going nuts trying to decide between the two! I've started a new project in the similar style to Viking Skull

Reference: https://www.myspace.com/vikingskull

I currently use a gibson 500T/496R set but they are simply too hot. I want an Alnico V pickup. Not TOO hot, and something articulate and BALLSY! I've heard some great Afwayu clips, but have also heard great things about the Torque.

Which would you recommend for a style similar to the band above?

thanks

-Joe
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":61l6edk5 said:
I'm going nuts trying to decide between the two! I've started a new project in the similar style to Viking Skull

Reference: https://www.myspace.com/vikingskull

I currently use a gibson 500T/496R set but they are simply too hot. I want an Alnico V pickup. Not TOO hot, and something articulate and BALLSY! I've heard some great Afwayu clips, but have also heard great things about the Torque.

Which would you recommend for a style similar to the band above?

thanks

-Joe

Both will do what you are looking for really well. The Torques are a bit more mid-rangey than the Afwayus. But the Afwayus are a bit hotter than the Torques. But they both clean up VERY VERY well. I honestly prefer the Afwayus over the Torques, but that's me. Really depends on what guitar you are putting these in.

So, what guitar would you want them in?

Eric
 
I replaced my Torque with the Guitar Force Erupter - Alnico II, 9.2 k. Really thick, warm highs, sweetest mids. The Torque was a bit too edgy for my Les Paul.

Eric, how is the Afwayus, as or less edgy than the Torque? I believe it is designed to be 'like' a Duncan JB. Maybe you don't hear it that way. I have a Wolfetone Timbrewolf (problem is, the mids are slightly scooped) in one guitar but the Afwayus may be a good match. Guitar Force has a nice one called the Spitfire.
 
richedie":cpixzsxp said:
I replaced my Torque with the Guitar Force Erupter - Alnico II, 9.2 k. Really thick, warm highs, sweetest mids. The Torque was a bit too edgy for my Les Paul.

Eric, how is the Afwayus, as or less edgy than the Torque? I believe it is designed to be 'like' a Duncan JB. Maybe you don't hear it that way. I have a Wolfetone Timbrewolf (problem is, the mids are slightly scooped) in one guitar but the Afwayus may be a good match. Guitar Force has a nice one called the Spitfire.

The torques were a bit too midrangey and a bit edgy for me also. Great pickup for a SG though. That's what I'd put it in. The Afwayus are a bit less edgy, and have a bit less mid-range than the Torques. I feel they are a bit more balanced. Very warm pickup, with great clarity, and sparkle!

Eric
 
Thanks for the replies guys!

These will go in a Les Paul Standard. I still want to have the Les Paul quality to it, so nothing TOO scooped sounding.

I really love that clip of your Afwayu by the way!

-Joe
 
The Afwayus are pretty ballsy.They have a great balance of tones and do roll off nice.I have them in an SG Diablo and Man they sound good!!!Buckeye dog has a set of Torques in an LP and says they Rock.I really love the Torque too.Great Great pickup.
 
jmgman69":3z2xnw82 said:
The Afwayus are pretty ballsy.They have a great balance of tones and do roll off nice.I have them in an SG Diablo and Man they sound good!!!Buckeye dog has a set of Torques in an LP and says they Rock.I really love the Torque too.Great Great pickup.

See I'm just worried because I currently have the gibson 500T which is also very hot, but flat sounding. I like it for uber heavy stuff, but it's not articulate.

-Joe
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":3hb6ivzq said:
jmgman69":3hb6ivzq said:
The Afwayus are pretty ballsy.They have a great balance of tones and do roll off nice.I have them in an SG Diablo and Man they sound good!!!Buckeye dog has a set of Torques in an LP and says they Rock.I really love the Torque too.Great Great pickup.

See I'm just worried because I currently have the gibson 500T which is also very hot, but flat sounding. I like it for uber heavy stuff, but it's not articulate.

-Joe

Well..the afwayus are anything but flat :). Hot doesn't mean flat at all in a good pickup.

Here's a clip of my afwayus.

 
aeroic":3v1rbayo said:
mightyjoeyoungxnj":3v1rbayo said:
jmgman69":3v1rbayo said:
The Afwayus are pretty ballsy.They have a great balance of tones and do roll off nice.I have them in an SG Diablo and Man they sound good!!!Buckeye dog has a set of Torques in an LP and says they Rock.I really love the Torque too.Great Great pickup.

See I'm just worried because I currently have the gibson 500T which is also very hot, but flat sounding. I like it for uber heavy stuff, but it's not articulate.

-Joe

Well..the afwayus are anything but flat :). Hot doesn't mean flat at all in a good pickup.

Here's a clip of my afwayus.


Thanks man, just wanted to be sure on this!

Yep, I heard it before and think it sounds great! I'd really love to keep the integrity of the Les Paul sound, but have a BALLSY sound at the same time.

Would you say the Torque differs much except for the mid issue?

-Joe
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":2aymjnai said:
aeroic":2aymjnai said:
mightyjoeyoungxnj":2aymjnai said:
jmgman69":2aymjnai said:
The Afwayus are pretty ballsy.They have a great balance of tones and do roll off nice.I have them in an SG Diablo and Man they sound good!!!Buckeye dog has a set of Torques in an LP and says they Rock.I really love the Torque too.Great Great pickup.

See I'm just worried because I currently have the gibson 500T which is also very hot, but flat sounding. I like it for uber heavy stuff, but it's not articulate.

-Joe

Well..the afwayus are anything but flat :). Hot doesn't mean flat at all in a good pickup.

Here's a clip of my afwayus.


Thanks man, just wanted to be sure on this!

Yep, I heard it before and think it sounds great! I'd really love to keep the integrity of the Les Paul sound, but have a BALLSY sound at the same time.

Would you say the Torque differs much except for the mid issue?

-Joe

Well that was a Les Paul that was recorded in. You tell me....sounds like a Paul to me ;). I liked the Afwayus in my Paul more than the Torques. I felt the Torques would have been better in an SG. But that's me ;). The Afwayus are gonna have a bit more balls, and be a bit more balanced throughout...the torques are killer though too. I just wanted something a bit more full sounding and muscular. That's a good word...the Afwayus are more muscular. But the clean tones are really warm and chimey. For hard rock, I'd go Afwayus...

Eric
 
Secondly, have Wade wind you a set of Afwayus that will be a bit less on the output. He's done that for Ty Tabor and other Eggie users. Same Afwayu tone, but just not as hot.

Eric
 
aeroic":d90rrhro said:
Secondly, have Wade wind you a set of Afwayus that will be a bit less on the output. He's done that for Ty Tabor and other Eggie users. Same Afwayu tone, but just not as hot.

Eric

Cool. I might just go for the full on output hehe. I like my pickups hot, but just not dull. My 500T is starting to sound dull to me.

Thanks for the info! Your clip definitely helped me decide.

-Joe
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":jgm0febo said:
jmgman69":jgm0febo said:
The Afwayus are pretty ballsy.They have a great balance of tones and do roll off nice.I have them in an SG Diablo and Man they sound good!!!Buckeye dog has a set of Torques in an LP and says they Rock.I really love the Torque too.Great Great pickup.

See I'm just worried because I currently have the gibson 500T which is also very hot, but flat sounding. I like it for uber heavy stuff, but it's not articulate.

-Joe
The Afwayu is definitely not a flat pickup,lots of texture and richness.Wade crazy descrips are pretty right on :rock: The Afwayus have more girth on tap :D .nice bottom for heavy but roll it off and it really cleans up.
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":z5zms84z said:
aeroic":z5zms84z said:
Secondly, have Wade wind you a set of Afwayus that will be a bit less on the output. He's done that for Ty Tabor and other Eggie users. Same Afwayu tone, but just not as hot.

Eric

Cool. I might just go for the full on output hehe. I like my pickups hot, but just not dull. My 500T is starting to sound dull to me.

Thanks for the info! Your clip definitely helped me decide.

-Joe

The afways kill man. I think your 500T is gonna want to fall over and die once you put a set of Afwayus in there! :)
 
Lastly, anyone know if Wade handwinds his pickups?

-Joe
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":gj5vlhw0 said:
Lastly, anyone know if Wade handwinds his pickups?

-Joe

pretty sure he does. if not, his work is spectacular. his work and tim's at bareknuckles are probably some of the best pickup work out there honestly. i've had a a few of wades and have a couple bareknuckles...and honestly...those guys are the only places I look anymore for pickups. I am happy with my Suhr Classic T pickups though for my Tele. John at Suhr winds good ones too :) Those Aldrich pickups sound quite tempting :). But for the "one man shop" boutique shops...Wade and Tim are the top of their game.

Eric
 
Awesome...I ordered them not too long ago. Can't wait!

-Joe
 
mightyjoeyoungxnj":mln2tdlo said:
Awesome...I ordered them not too long ago. Can't wait!

-Joe
I have 2 LPs loaded with Motor City's,VOS with Blissbuckers and an 04 standard with Solutions and have nothing but praise!Plus Wade is a cool MOFO :D
 
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