Music Zoo Charvel Nitro's coming back.

[AmpliFIRE]

I'd seriously consider one at 2k but 3k is a no go for me...

 

[zewango]

21 frets? You cant sound like VH 1 without a 21 fret neck . Jeez
$2499 for these? Not sure. Still think they look killer.
Little too much Charvel hate and Luxxtone love going on
Arent Jackson/Charvel's made by the same people?

 

[rupe]

Arent Jackson/Charvel's made by the same people?

Yes, Fender. Actually, they have employees from the early years still on board.

 

[Anonymous]

That white one is awesome! I love looking at it every time you post a pic. One of the best looking guitars on here...I think! What pickups are in it?

Yeah, I sold the blue one since I have my Jack Daniels graphic one with the same neck. The white one I still have and will not sell. It has a Dimarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and a Dimarzio Humbucker From Hell in the neck. My favorite pickup combination!

Steve

 

[Doughboy]

You're paying the sticker price solely for the honor of having that Charvel sticker on the headstock. I'm sure it's a godo guitar, but maybe at less than 1/2 the price.

You could get the exact same guitar made from Warmoth parts for about the 1/3 of the price & the quality would be better imo. Then again, it wouldn't have the cool Charvel sticker.

 

[Anonymous]

You're paying the sticker price solely for the honor of having that Charvel sticker on the headstock. I'm sure it's a godo guitar, but maybe at less than 1/2 the price.

You could get the exact same guitar made from Warmoth parts for about the 1/3 of the price & the quality would be better imo. Then again, it wouldn't have the cool Charvel sticker.

You're absolutely wrong on that IMO, but hey, everybody's got an opinion. I've built Warmoth, Musikraft, etc, and while they turn out nice, I much prefer the feel of my Charvel Custom Shop guitars. These are built by the original guys, on the original equipment and much of the work is done by hand. If you are willing to pay for a USA made instrument, by guys that have been luthiers for 40 years and are hand shaping, etc, then you gotta expect to pay. If you are happy with a Warmoth guitar and can't feel a difference and save a bunch of money, more power to ya... I feel a difference... I'll keep my Charvels:

Steve

 

[zewango]

I'm with Steve on this

 

[Doughboy]

You're paying the sticker price solely for the honor of having that Charvel sticker on the headstock. I'm sure it's a godo guitar, but maybe at less than 1/2 the price.

You could get the exact same guitar made from Warmoth parts for about the 1/3 of the price & the quality would be better imo. Then again, it wouldn't have the cool Charvel sticker.

You're absolutely wrong on that IMO, but hey, everybody's got an opinion. I've built Warmoth, Musikraft, etc, and while they turn out nice, I much prefer the feel of my Charvel Custom Shop guitars. These are built by the original guys, on the original equipment and much of the work is done by hand. If you are willing to pay for a USA made instrument, by guys that have been luthiers for 40 years and are hand shaping, etc, then you gotta expect to pay. If you are happy with a Warmoth guitar and can't feel a difference and save a bunch of money, more power to ya... I feel a difference... I'll keep my Charvels:

Steve

Well, your Charvels are super cool custom made guitars & you can't compare them to the Music Zoo plain Jane models.

They are good guitars, but now a days, the bodies & necks are all CNC with a small amount of hand work done afterwards. No one does anything 100% by hand anymore.

I just think the sticker price on the plain solid colored Charvels are kinda steep. If money was no object, then I'd go with the actual Charvels myself. But for the price, I could get 2 Warmoths minus the super cool Charvel sticker.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

21 frets? You cant sound like VH 1 without a 21 fret neck . Jeez
$2499 for these? Not sure. Still think they look killer.
Little too much Charvel hate and Luxxtone love going on
Arent Jackson/Charvel's made by the same people?

I emailed the Music Zoo...the price is $2999

 

[zewango]

3k damn

I bought a brand new EVH black and white from Musicians Friend for $719 with a coupon.
I'll stick with that. Great bang for the buck and the neck feels great on it.

 

[thiswaythatway]

3k!!!!

 

[rupe]

You're paying the sticker price solely for the honor of having that Charvel sticker on the headstock. I'm sure it's a godo guitar, but maybe at less than 1/2 the price.

You could get the exact same guitar made from Warmoth parts for about the 1/3 of the price & the quality would be better imo. Then again, it wouldn't have the cool Charvel sticker.

You're absolutely wrong on that IMO, but hey, everybody's got an opinion. I've built Warmoth, Musikraft, etc, and while they turn out nice, I much prefer the feel of my Charvel Custom Shop guitars. These are built by the original guys, on the original equipment and much of the work is done by hand. If you are willing to pay for a USA made instrument, by guys that have been luthiers for 40 years and are hand shaping, etc, then you gotta expect to pay. If you are happy with a Warmoth guitar and can't feel a difference and save a bunch of money, more power to ya... I feel a difference... I'll keep my Charvels:

Steve

Well, your Charvels are super cool custom made guitars & you can't compare them to the Music Zoo plain Jane models.

They are good guitars, but now a days, the bodies & necks are all CNC with a small amount of hand work done afterwards. No one does anything 100% by hand anymore.

I just think the sticker price on the plain solid colored Charvels are kinda steep. If money was no object, then I'd go with the actual Charvels myself. But for the price, I could get 2 Warmoths minus the super cool Charvel sticker.

BS...you absolutely can compare them to the Music Zoo "plain Jane" models. They're the same guitars made by the same people in the same place...the only difference is the finish/graphics. Not sure what you think is a fair price for a guitar with the amount of hand work that's done on these?

 

[Doughboy]

You're paying the sticker price solely for the honor of having that Charvel sticker on the headstock. I'm sure it's a godo guitar, but maybe at less than 1/2 the price.

You could get the exact same guitar made from Warmoth parts for about the 1/3 of the price & the quality would be better imo. Then again, it wouldn't have the cool Charvel sticker.

You're absolutely wrong on that IMO, but hey, everybody's got an opinion. I've built Warmoth, Musikraft, etc, and while they turn out nice, I much prefer the feel of my Charvel Custom Shop guitars. These are built by the original guys, on the original equipment and much of the work is done by hand. If you are willing to pay for a USA made instrument, by guys that have been luthiers for 40 years and are hand shaping, etc, then you gotta expect to pay. If you are happy with a Warmoth guitar and can't feel a difference and save a bunch of money, more power to ya... I feel a difference... I'll keep my Charvels:

Steve

Well, your Charvels are super cool custom made guitars & you can't compare them to the Music Zoo plain Jane models.

They are good guitars, but now a days, the bodies & necks are all CNC with a small amount of hand work done afterwards. No one does anything 100% by hand anymore.

I just think the sticker price on the plain solid colored Charvels are kinda steep. If money was no object, then I'd go with the actual Charvels myself. But for the price, I could get 2 Warmoths minus the super cool Charvel sticker.

BS...you absolutely can compare them to the Music Zoo "plain Jane" models. They're the same guitars made by the same people in the same place...the only difference is the finish/graphics. Not sure what you think is a fair price for a guitar with the amount of hand work that's done on these?

I meant the graphics, obviously. His guitars don't have special pickups or a better neck. However, 3k is more reasonable when custom graphics come into play.

3k for a plain charvel is highway robbery, imo.

But then again, maybe to some people that charvel sticker is worth an extra $1800.

To each their own but I'd rather own 2 quality guitars than 1 quality guitar for the same price, sticker or no sticker.

 

[rupe]

I meant the graphics, obviously. His guitars don't have special pickups or a better neck. However, 3k is more reasonable when custom graphics come into play.

3k for a plain charvel is highway robbery, imo.

But then again, maybe to some people that charvel sticker is worth an extra $1800.

To each their own but I'd rather own 2 quality guitars than 1 quality guitar for the same price, sticker or no sticker.

Got it...it appeared to me that you were claiming a difference in quality.

You can get a plain Custom Shop Charvel for well under $3K...these ones are shot with nitro and relic'd which adds a bit to the price. Seeing as a Fender with a similar treatment could cost double that amount, I don't see it as anything remotely resembling "highway robbery".

That said, I'm all about "rolling your own" (see my sig), but the amount of work needed to get a Warmoth parts build up to the same level of quality/fit/finish as a Custom Shop Charvel is no small undertaking. If you have the skill to do that though, then yeah, you can build an awesome guitar.

 

[Doughboy]

I meant the graphics, obviously. His guitars don't have special pickups or a better neck. However, 3k is more reasonable when custom graphics come into play.

3k for a plain charvel is highway robbery, imo.

But then again, maybe to some people that charvel sticker is worth an extra $1800.

To each their own but I'd rather own 2 quality guitars than 1 quality guitar for the same price, sticker or no sticker.

Got it...it appeared to me that you were claiming a difference in quality.

You can get a plain Custom Shop Charvel for well under $3K...these ones are shot with nitro and relic'd which adds a bit to the price. Seeing as a Fender with a similar treatment could cost double that amount, I don't see it as anything remotely resembling "highway robbery".

That said, I'm all about "rolling your own" (see my sig), but the amount of work needed to get a Warmoth parts build up to the same level of quality/fit/finish as a Custom Shop Charvel is no small undertaking. If you have the skill to do that though, then yeah, you can build an awesome guitar.

I think Fender's asking price for reliced guitars are highway robbery as well.

The nitro reliced Charvel should be no more than 2k tops & that's pushing it.

I'm with you in rolling your own. I have a dozen custom made Warmoths that are ridiculously good & 1/3 of the price of any name brand guitar.

I wanted a Reb Beach model Suhr, but the 6k asking price was silly. So I build my own from Warmoth parts for 1/3 the price.

Reb was in town last year for a show & he played & signed my guitar & he couldn't believe how good it was.

Here it is. 1/3 the price & WAY better wood.

 

[Chubtone]

I have built at least a dozen Warmoth super strats over the years. NONE of them have been as good as a Charvel custom shop. None of them. They have been very good guitars, better than standard American series Fenders and about as good as the USA Charvel Pro Mods were. One of them I have liked enough to actually keep for 15 years. The rest of them I have sold at about 50 -60% of what they cost to make. Heck, one of them is hanging on the wall in my shop right now for $500, cost about a grand.

 

[Chubtone]

I get confused by the amount of threads with guys celebrating their new Tom Anderson or new Suhr or new Fender Custom Shop guitars and people rarely go off on rants about how expensive they are. Heck people buy made in Japan ESP's all day long for more than a regular Charvel custom shop costs. People still want it to be 1985 when it comes to Charvel Custom Shop pricing. These guitars were $1200 in 1985. I think paying a little over $2k for a standard color Charvel Custom Shop is not that bad in comparison.

Also, there's one thing that most people don't know since that custom shop is not very good at marketing or self promotion. Mike Shannon, Masterbuilder extrordinaire, shapes every single Charvel neck that comes out of that custom shop and he does it by hand, holding it against what I believe is called a spindle sander. He just keeps feeling the neck until it feels right to him. He's been doing these necks since Randy Rhoads had his V's built. I think maybe, just maybe he's got more history in his hands than Warmoth's CNC machine has.

 

[mixohoytian]

so.... tone IS in the fingers.....

 

[Anonymous]

I get confused by the amount of threads with guys celebrating their new Tom Anderson or new Suhr or new Fender Custom Shop guitars and people rarely go off on rants about how expensive they are. Heck people buy made in Japan ESP's all day long for more than a regular Charvel custom shop costs. People still want it to be 1985 when it comes to Charvel Custom Shop pricing. These guitars were $1200 in 1985. I think paying a little over $2k for a standard color Charvel Custom Shop is not that bad in comparison.

Also, there's one thing that most people don't know since that custom shop is not very good at marketing or self promotion. Mike Shannon, Masterbuilder extrordinaire, shapes every single Charvel neck that comes out of that custom shop and he does it by hand, holding it against what I believe is called a spindle sander. He just keeps feeling the neck until it feels right to him. He's been doing these necks since Randy Rhoads had his V's built. I think maybe, just maybe he's got more history in his hands than Warmoth's CNC machine has.

Yup, not to mention no one is really going to pay $3K for a Nitro from The Music Zoo either. That is the starting price for negotiation...

Steve

 

[Doughboy]

Ultimately a guitar is worth whatever it is to the player who buys it.

If the nitro Charvels bring you 3k worth of pleasure, then they're worth every penny.

I know a guy who owns a 59 Les Paul that he paid over 200k for years ago & I thought he was insane, but he LOVES that guitar & it's now worth a lot more. I can't justify paying that much for any guitar, but he truly loves this guitar so much that, to him, it's worth every damn cent.

I still think my Carvin CS6 is a better sounding & playing guitar than his 59 Les Paul, but that's a moot argument.