NAD: Egnater Armagdeddon

Bash_Man

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So for year's I've been a single guitar amp owner.. I may be one of few now days.. LOL.. BUT, fear no more.. a New (Previously enjoyed) Amp Day is here :D

Welcome to the family an Egnater Armageddon head.. Gonna plug it in tomorrow to give it a nice test run during rehearsal. Should be exciting.

If anyone owns/owned one of these amps, I'd love to hear your feedback.

Cheers
 

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Nice!

Never owned one but played one in GC and remember thinking it was a great sounding amp. If I remember right it was very tight plugged straight in.
 
MetalHeadMike":2e7s81lt said:
Nice!

Never owned one but played one in GC and remember thinking it was a great sounding amp. If I remember right it was very tight plugged straight in.
Awesome.. thanks for the response.
 
Never played the Armageddon but I have played the Vengeance, which I think is a sort of stripped down version. It sounded great to me and was a good value.

Also, unlike almost all the other imported Egnater amps, the Armageddon and Vengeance don't seem to be plagued with reliability issues
 
^concur

Never played the Armageddon but was pretty impressed with the Vengeance.


Duke of Metal":11o75qly said:
311splawndude":11o75qly said:
Brootalz

Have fun with your new amp.

What is your other amp?
Thank you. Other Amp is a Splawn Nitro :rock:
Oh yeah. I think we've talked about that before. Can you compare/contrast?
 
311splawndude":2np3zvtb said:
^concur

Never played the Armageddon but was pretty impressed with the Vengeance.


Duke of Metal":2np3zvtb said:
311splawndude":2np3zvtb said:
Brootalz

Have fun with your new amp.

What is your other amp?
Thank you. Other Amp is a Splawn Nitro :rock:
Oh yeah. I think we've talked about that before. Can you compare/contrast?
I'll be jamming on the Egnater tonight.. I'll do a quick jam with the Splawn as well and get back to you guys with differences if I have enough time to do both.
 
Duke of Metal":21emfy9r said:
So for year's I've been a single guitar amp owner.. I may be one of few now days.. LOL.. BUT, fear no more.. a New (Previously enjoyed) Amp Day is here :D

Welcome to the family an Egnater Armageddon head.. Gonna plug it in tomorrow to give it a nice test run during rehearsal. Should be exciting.

If anyone owns/owned one of these amps, I'd love to hear your feedback.

Cheers
You're like me. I generally favor one amp and then usually the same amp as a backup.

I have just always preferred to get my "amp" tone and stick with it. I have always preferred to have different guitars to get variants in tone as I want the amp to stay consistent. Too many amps and me personally, I start tweaking instead of playing.

That said, I recently went through a bunch of amps (Mezzabarba Trinity, Engl Artist, Friedman BE Deluxe) and luckily found an older Fryette SigX that has been added in the fold. Really liked the Engl as well. Years ago when I was flipping amps and trying to find "the" one it came down to the SigX and the JVM410. Went with the JVM. It's still my main amp but its been nice to add the SigX back. Fryette definitely have their own thing going on. Congrats on the new amp...lots of nice features on those amps. Nearly picked one up awhile back as well.
 
hey everyone,
So I got a chance to jam 3 1/2 hours on the Egnater tonight.. Started with the Splawn for about 1/2 hour and then switched to the Egnater, took about another 20-30 minutes to get the 3 channels set up to sounds I liked. I have to say, wow.. this amp is amazing.

Both amps got played with my Gibson LesPaul Classic with Burstbucker 61T/61R (factory pickups) and Gibson Flying V with Suhr Aldrich Pickups (bridge/neck). My Rig is pretty simple: guitar --> Korg PB03 --> Wah (Dunlop 95q) --> MXR Microamp (off 90% of the time or used as a gain boost when doing a solo on low gain drive) --> Amp (TC G-Major 2 in the Loop) into a 2x12 vertical Marshall cabinet with Vintage 30 speakers. My cables from guitar all the way through to the amp is all Mogami 2524.

Please keep in mind that what I am posting below is basically based on my experience with the amp tonight. Its what I experienced.

My findings:
Functions/Options: The Egnater Wins on this one. lots of tonal options to get many different sounds, especially with having that additional Midrange Control in there that can be either integrated into each of the channels or can be used as a Solo boost. This is definitely something the Armageddon wins over the Splawn.

Gain (Amount and Structure): Both amps have great amounts of gain that go from low drive, to in your face heavy gain to "just useless" gain. I do find the Splawn Nitro's gain to have more grit to it and more aggressiveness, while the Egnater Armageddon still has a bit of an aggressive gain, I found the overall gain structure is smoother.

Clean: Both amps have nice clean channels, but with "default" tube setup, the Egnater has a cleaner clean sound that no matter how hard I strummed, it didn't break up. The Splawn Nitro with a 12ax7 in V1 can have a bit of a breakup on the clean channel, BUT that was easily remediated by swapping the 12ax7 to an 12at7 and it cleaned up the Clean channel on the Splawn very nicely.

Tone (sound and controls): Both amps basically have 2 "true" channels and on both amps, the 2nd and 3rd channels share an EQ. The bonus to the Egnater is it has a separate Gain and Volume for Channel 2 and Channel 3, which is great because it allowed me to use the same guitar volume and tone (bass/mid/treble) on both the low drive settings and heavy settings, without having to sound weak or loose sustain because you have to turn down the guitar volume. Aside from that, both amps can get some great sounds, the Splawn can get very heavy and tight without needing all those additional controls, but they're definitely a bonus to have to produce more sound/tone options.

Noise: the Egnater has a built in ISP Decimator G-String in the amp, which is great not having to carry an extra pedal. The Nitro I use an actual ISP G-String with. With the ISP Engaged on either the Egnater or Splawn, both amps are quiet, even on the high gain sounds. However, I do find the Egnater to be quieter amp overall, even without the ISP Decimator engaged, I barely had any buzz or feedback while muting the strings. I couldnt say the same about the Splawn. The Splawn I found to have "amp noise/hun" when everything is muted and ISP Is on.. but in a live situation, no one is gonna notice (except for the guitar player playing the amp :lol: :LOL: )

Options: The Egnater definitely has more options built in and no contest sadly between the Egnater and the Splawn. Egnater has Midi controlled channel switching and other features switching such as loop, reverb, mid boost. The Egnater also has a direct out as well for recording or run into a mixing board. Loop on the Egnater has 2 separate volume controls for each of the Send and the Return as well as a Master Volume. The Egnater also has a master volume. The Splawn has a "Master volume" that's on the Effects loop circuit, which works great by allowing you to drive the amp harder without making your ears bleed. The egnater allows manual channel switching via front panel button, which is great. Splawn however requires the Foot switch to switch channels. The Egnater also has additional toggle switches on each channel that are Tight, Bright and Gain. All 3 switches make quiet bit a difference, but its a matter of taste when using these switches. I found my self using the tight switch on the Clean channel, but not on the Gain Channels. same with the Gain switch, I have it ON on the clean channel to give it more volume but its off on the Gain Channels.

Volume/Power/Tubes: Splawn is a 100watts with a selectable 50watts switch on the back. Egnater is 120watts with a selectable 60watts switch on the front. To be honest, I cant tell you how loud 100watts and 120watts can get.. but even with the splawn 50watts mode, its LOUD. They're both powerful amps. Splawn has 4 12ax7s/4 EL34s and Egnater has 6 12ax7s/4 EL34s.

"Cool Factors": the Splawn i had ordered was a plain black chasis with White chicken head knobs. only light on it is the power light. The Egnater has lots of fancy lights, channels have dedicated lights to them and the full tone control panel is top lit with an LED strip. that LED strip also seems to somewhat light up the inside of the Egnater's chasis... now I think if I switch the Nitro's chassis to one of the ones that have the front mesh or glass, I could install some LED lights and make it fancy.

Overall/Final Thoughts: Both amps are great amps. Even with all the above content I wrote, I truly believe both amps are great. They both excel at what they do and they both do it well. There's a reason why I've owned and still own the Splawn Nitro (bought it in 2008 or so), I fell in love with the Nitro from the first video Scott Splawn posted on youtube 12 years ago (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFEd342t5Ig). My main reasons for getting the Egnater is I wanted to get a 2nd amp because I wanted something different to play with and try out that's not marshall, peavey, or Mesa (though i would've liked a Mark IV or V :) ).


I hope the above gives you guys some ideas. Feel free to ask any questions that I didn't answer above.

Cheers and thanks
 
Nice, congrats. Glad you like it, i couldn't get along with it. For the price, man it is such a solid built amp with some awesome features but I just couldn't get a tone that did it for me. I thought something was wrong with it because it sounded so weird to me but tech says no issues. Just wasnt my thing i guess.
 
Egnater's have always had a smoother sound to them so I am not surprised that you noticed it as well. Works great for most stuff but sometimes I missed the Marshall'ish kerrang that an amp like the Splawn will give up all day. Not a dig on the Eggy at all. It's just different.
 
maddnotez":2kxqem3p said:
Nice, congrats. Glad you like it, i couldn't get along with it. For the price, man it is such a solid built amp with some awesome features but I just couldn't get a tone that did it for me. I thought something was wrong with it because it sounded so weird to me but tech says no issues. Just wasnt my thing i guess.
Yeah.. I also feel like the Egnater is one of those Like/Dislike amps. its got so much happening, it could go either way really.
 
fek":3gkuf0sb said:
Egnater's have always had a smoother sound to them so I am not surprised that you noticed it as well. Works great for most stuff but sometimes I missed the Marshall'ish kerrang that an amp like the Splawn will give up all day. Not a dig on the Eggy at all. It's just different.
I am definitely keeping the Splawn, that amp isnt going anywhere.. :D..
 
Duke of Metal":17cfs44y said:
maddnotez":17cfs44y said:
Nice, congrats. Glad you like it, i couldn't get along with it. For the price, man it is such a solid built amp with some awesome features but I just couldn't get a tone that did it for me. I thought something was wrong with it because it sounded so weird to me but tech says no issues. Just wasnt my thing i guess.
Yeah.. I also feel like the Egnater is one of those Like/Dislike amps. its got so much happening, it could go either way really.
well im glad you like it. I think having the isp should be mandatory in every amp. Was seriously amazing to have that function.
 
I have a armageddon. I turned the input switch thingy off. The one on top of the chassis that in the manual says "ODS/ODV". Made it sound less flat. I had to cut the fan ziptie to take off the back grill. Killer features. I don't like the tight setting, takes away low end balls, but doesn't tube scream it. I like boosting with an SD1. It seems to need active pups, too smooth. I'm still evaluating. I might mod to brighten, but that will be a major bitch, total spaghetti inside.
 
I got one. Run it thru two 4x12 cabs. Sounded good with my guitar. ESP with a dimarzio x2n.
Sounded good. Buddy brought over his Wolfgang. Lower output pick and it just CRUNCHED!
Funny the tiniest things in the signal makes huge difference :thumbsup:
 
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