neural amp modeler....

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If you want profiling, it's worth a try at the price.

I prefer the modeling approach over profiling.

Now I prefer tone sculpting over modeling (e.g., Blue Cat Audio Destructor / Axiom plugins, and most recently PolyChrome DSP McRocklin Suite plugin). Really need to see a portable VST Host with enough processing power and storage; like the never released SM Pro Audio V-Pedal, or V-Machine (I had one of these, but it was underpowered even at the time) with floor controller.

Here's the never released V-Pedal:

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I saw this yesterday and have heard about it here and there.

For a free plugin and free profiles, this thing sounds and plays great.

Feels great too.

If they’d come out with a dedicated box for like $200 it’d blow people’s minds.

Some guys I know on another forum are huge tech guys and love all this stuff along with AfeFxs, Helixes and the ToneX box.

This gets great reviews over there.

I just DLed it to mess around, haven’t tried profiling anything yet.

If I get some time in the next week and it’s not too complicated I’m going to do some captures of my Herbert with a couple different boosts. I think it’d be sick to have those on my computer to take it on the road with me.
 
Wow.

I kept waiting for him to switch rigs and the video ended lol.

Another 5 years and I think paid modelers might be obsolete.

Not surprising given the computing power available on the tiniest of devices.

Very cool time to be a guitar player!
 
Spaceboy said:
I intend to try it out this weekend. I already have ToneX and think it’s pretty bomb and simple to use though.
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Regardless, the ToneX will be relevant for decades to come, just like the Kemper, Helix, old ADA, Digitech and Boss rack units
 
I downloaded the Neural amp modeler the other day and I really dig it. I’m using the Splawn and the 5150 profile. I will say I’ve owned a. QC, Kemper, and a couple of HX stomps and I prefer the Neural amp modeler feel and sound
 
I've tried it against my ToneX setup and it's definitely good. I had less issues trying to get an accurate capture on it with some amps, but I continue to use ToneX instead because... The pedal and the shear amount of profiles available on ToneNet for free. The pedal is the real selling point to the whole system and until NAM comes up with their own (which seems very unlikely), it's likely far less useful for a large amount of guitarists.
 
Seems like ToneX , is the new Sheriff in town and Kemper isn't the talk of the town anymore .
Last week end a guy had one and was nice enough to educate me on the device at sound check .

Very, very impressive .
He copied some of my presets from my gear and seems to be much faster and snoother than the Kemper's " Capture / Copy " downloads.
 
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Diary of a Axeman said:
He copied some of my presets from my gear and seems to be much faster and snoother than the Kemper's " Capture / Copy " downloads.
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Faster? I doubt it; the Kemper takes, IIRC, well under a minute to make a Profile (40 seconds?).

Smoother? I doubt it; the Kemper has an analogue-mojo feeling and sound about it, rare in digital-outboard guitar-am emulation and quite likely the first of its kind (December 2011).
 
It’s 100 percent the real deal. I mean literally 100 percent.there’s absolutely nothing closer that I’ve heard, or FELT. If you’ve ever played a real wizard, you know how insane they feel to play. The models a few have done on their wizards are incredible to play on and the feel is dead on in my opinion.

I think what I love most about it, is that it’s more idiot proof than the kemper for instance. NAM generally works with capturing the DI of your amp with no cabinet: not necessarily a “full rig” ( amp cab mic etc). What this means is, its really hard for people to fuck this up with no shitty micing of their amp getting in the way. You can then use your favorite IR’s and have a much better chance of getting a fantastic tone with this thing than the kemper.


It also captures full blown studio gear like eq’s, saturation devices, mic pres, Etc. There’s a few who have modeled preamps and seperate power amps as well. There’s a set of VHT 2902 power amp models that I’ll use with peoples preamps models or pedal preamp models and it’s fantastic.


For sheer accuracy, NAM smokes kemper, tonex etc. 100 percent the real deal.
 
DanTravis62 said:
What's this now?

A Quad Cortex software bundle or something?
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It’s basically a free plugin that you “profile” your amp through. Think of it as a kemper ( but much better and more versatile) in a free plugin form. It is really incredible. Several guys have done null tests comparing profiles of their amps with the kemper, tonex, and now NAM, and NAM is by FAR the closest. I mean they almost null out completely compared to the real amp…. I’d pay you big money to download this and give it a shot, im sure many would here too.

They have a pretty solid Facebook group going, I would check it out, download some models ( now on tonehunt.org I believe is where they upload them now) and see for yourself.

I can’t remember who said it but they were dead on with the way to describe the users of this and the vibe of the group: it’s very android vs iPhone. For those that have been on the forum they will probably get what I’m saying, it’s just very…. Android haha. The entire plugin is open source at this time too, so it’s kind of the wild Wild West with it right now, but it is no doubt to me the real deal.

This dude does a pretty good job of explaining it, shows some tones, and does a null test for you to see just how accurate this thing really is. The video is all time stamped so scroll to the sections you would like.

 
VESmedic said:
It’s 100 percent the real deal. I mean literally 100 percent.there’s absolutely nothing closer that I’ve heard, or FELT. If you’ve ever played a real wizard, you know how insane they feel to play. The models a few have done on their wizards are incredible to play on and the feel is dead on in my opinion.

I think what I love most about it, is that it’s more idiot proof than the kemper for instance. NAM generally works with capturing the DI of your amp with no cabinet: not necessarily a “full rig” ( amp cab mic etc). What this means is, its really hard for people to fuck this up with no shitty micing of their amp getting in the way. You can then use your favorite IR’s and have a much better chance of getting a fantastic tone with this thing than the kemper.


It also captures full blown studio gear like eq’s, saturation devices, mic pres, Etc. There’s a few who have modeled preamps and seperate power amps as well. There’s a set of VHT 2902 power amp models that I’ll use with peoples preamps models or pedal preamp models and it’s fantastic.


For sheer accuracy, NAM smokes kemper, tonex etc. 100 percent the real deal.
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Yeah I must say the 5150 profile is spot on to my amp. The bass is there the feel is even there. It actually is the closest to amp in a room I’ve experienced
 
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