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Without even haggling with my GC guy, he quoted me $399.richedie":cuynldai said:
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Klark":k4ed8k3n said:
Maybe. But, I'm sure there are combinations that work well. I work for a design/manufacturing company. There are always compromises we must make. I see how an amp company would go for speakers in pairs. From a marketing point of view, it looks consistent and uniform.
3 Mile Stone
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Klark":3vd5vso9 said:
I told the guy I forgot my 10% off coupon (really ... I did!) and he gave it to me. Cab was $405.
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richedie
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3 Mile Stone":pm3xyqbe said:
Don't you have a Mojo as well? Comparison?
aeroic
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richedie":1vbmnxew said:3 Mile Stone":1vbmnxew said:
Don't you have a Mojo as well? Comparison?
I have both a Mojo and a TM212. But my mojo is a 1x12, and I don't run the same speakers as my TM212, so it's pretty hard to compare. The Mojo 1x12 I have is a killer sounding 1x12 though! It was exactly what I wanted. Not as much beef as a Tm212, but really cool mid-range, and warm top end.
Eric
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Yea, I have the big diagonal 2X12 Marshall 1966 style mojo.
Th eEgnater is better. I loaded it with my Eminence GB12s, that's what I had in the Mojo & I really like those speakers. I think that as much as I liked the Mojo, I prefer the Egnater. It is more focused even with the vent opened up. The Egnater is more precise, tighter and better definition. I don't know how else to say it but it sounds right.
Th eEgnater is better. I loaded it with my Eminence GB12s, that's what I had in the Mojo & I really like those speakers. I think that as much as I liked the Mojo, I prefer the Egnater. It is more focused even with the vent opened up. The Egnater is more precise, tighter and better definition. I don't know how else to say it but it sounds right.
jmgman69
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Couldn't have said it better myself!!!Hey Tommy,stay of the road for awhile man!!!Hope your feeling better again Bro!!!!3 Mile Stone":389fc8hd said:
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richedie
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GB12? Are they versatile? I might check em out!
Eric, so you basically have the large USA size Egnater 112 without the port? That is what I would like. The TM112 is too small.
Eric, so you basically have the large USA size Egnater 112 without the port? That is what I would like. The TM112 is too small.
3 Mile Stone
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jmgman69":237g4kwd said:Couldn't have said it better myself!!!Hey Tommy,stay of the road for awhile man!!!Hope your feeling better again Bro!!!!3 Mile Stone":237g4kwd said:
Thanks Jason. Having eyes transplanted in the back of my head soon. Maybe that'll help keep me injury free for a while.
Feeling better every day!!!
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richedie":1d43zngi said:
Come to think of it yea, they are pretty versatile little speakers. You know trends and fads come and go, because there are so many good products out there you just have to figure out what works for you. The Eminence GB12 has some of the characteristics of all the speakers I like. Speakers on my favored list include EV 12's, Boogie 90, CL80, G12-65 & G12 -85K. I mixed speakers for a long time too. I just really like these now.
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3 Mile Stone":3jwsxb42 said:
These speakers do sound really good. Although they are not the easiest to find anymore, but you may want to give the Private Jack a try as well as they have some of the same qualities.
jmgman69
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Agreed,Private Jacks sound great!!!Buckeyedog":2bdg8fni said:
3 Mile Stone
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Yep, I've heard there are only very slight differences between them. Good stuff.
aeroic
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Well yesterday was speaker swap day for my TM212.
Tried out a WGS Retro 30, and Reaper HP as a combo. Sounded really good if you are doing classic rock / clean stuff mainly. Heading into SL2 / EG5 territory, I really didn't like it at all. So then I tried 2 Blue Dogs. Sounded great, but just a bit dark for my tastes (I'm running 2-75 watt ceramics with pre-rolas). So I then threw a Silver Bell w/ the Blue Dog in there, and it sounded AMAZING. Sounded similar in tone to my CL80 / G12T75 combo, but more warm mids, smoother, but still chimey top end, and the same "chugga chugga" that the CL80 / T75s can do. The Webers are definitely more articulate than the Celestions which is the biggest difference.
What I've found so far w/ these cabs, is every speaker sounds great in the TM212. I'm just honing in on what I really like mostly. I've tried Scumbacks, George Scholz, Ear Candy Speakers, Webers, Celestions, EVM-12L's, etc and ALL of them sounded awesome in the TM212 (well the EVM 12L's wouldn't fit...but I tried that speaker in my 1x12 Mojo cabinet).
What I've found, is that the Webers and Celestion combos sounded best for the diverse modules I have. I look for speakers that sound great across the spectrum of DLX, BMAN, COD, SL2, EG3/4, VX, and EG5. Some speakers were good for clean...some were better for high gain. The Silver Bell / Blue Dog and CL80 / T75 combos were the only speaker sets I've found so far that are neutral enough to make ALL modules sound equally good. Granted I'm not looking for an "exact reproduction" of a AC30, or SLO100, etc. I'm just looking for good "all around tone."
So, where that leaves me, is I'm going to grab another Silver Bell and a Weber 12M next. I'm going to see how 2 Silver Bells work in the TM212, and see how the Weber 12M (with pre-rola treatment) compares to the Blue Dog. I'm going to try the 12M in my 1x12, and also in my TM212 w/ a Silver Bell. Depending on the results from there, is how I will go.
The Webers I actually like more for Egnater stuff than the Scumbacks. The Scumbacks for me, which sounded AWESOME by the way...were not "neutral" enough for me to get the clean tones - mid gain tones - high gain tones across the spectrum for me. The Webers I felt reproduced what the module was shooting for the best.
Best Weber I've played to date is definitely the Silver Bell. For guys that like a bit darker tone, the Blue Dog is awesome too!!!
I've realized that the speakers I compare EVERYTHING against is a Blue Dog, Silver Bell, CL80, and a G12T75. I like all of those speakers A LOT! Nothing else for me has stacked up to those 4 speakers.
Eric
Tried out a WGS Retro 30, and Reaper HP as a combo. Sounded really good if you are doing classic rock / clean stuff mainly. Heading into SL2 / EG5 territory, I really didn't like it at all. So then I tried 2 Blue Dogs. Sounded great, but just a bit dark for my tastes (I'm running 2-75 watt ceramics with pre-rolas). So I then threw a Silver Bell w/ the Blue Dog in there, and it sounded AMAZING. Sounded similar in tone to my CL80 / G12T75 combo, but more warm mids, smoother, but still chimey top end, and the same "chugga chugga" that the CL80 / T75s can do. The Webers are definitely more articulate than the Celestions which is the biggest difference.
What I've found so far w/ these cabs, is every speaker sounds great in the TM212. I'm just honing in on what I really like mostly. I've tried Scumbacks, George Scholz, Ear Candy Speakers, Webers, Celestions, EVM-12L's, etc and ALL of them sounded awesome in the TM212 (well the EVM 12L's wouldn't fit...but I tried that speaker in my 1x12 Mojo cabinet).
What I've found, is that the Webers and Celestion combos sounded best for the diverse modules I have. I look for speakers that sound great across the spectrum of DLX, BMAN, COD, SL2, EG3/4, VX, and EG5. Some speakers were good for clean...some were better for high gain. The Silver Bell / Blue Dog and CL80 / T75 combos were the only speaker sets I've found so far that are neutral enough to make ALL modules sound equally good. Granted I'm not looking for an "exact reproduction" of a AC30, or SLO100, etc. I'm just looking for good "all around tone."
So, where that leaves me, is I'm going to grab another Silver Bell and a Weber 12M next. I'm going to see how 2 Silver Bells work in the TM212, and see how the Weber 12M (with pre-rola treatment) compares to the Blue Dog. I'm going to try the 12M in my 1x12, and also in my TM212 w/ a Silver Bell. Depending on the results from there, is how I will go.
The Webers I actually like more for Egnater stuff than the Scumbacks. The Scumbacks for me, which sounded AWESOME by the way...were not "neutral" enough for me to get the clean tones - mid gain tones - high gain tones across the spectrum for me. The Webers I felt reproduced what the module was shooting for the best.
Best Weber I've played to date is definitely the Silver Bell. For guys that like a bit darker tone, the Blue Dog is awesome too!!!
I've realized that the speakers I compare EVERYTHING against is a Blue Dog, Silver Bell, CL80, and a G12T75. I like all of those speakers A LOT! Nothing else for me has stacked up to those 4 speakers.
Eric
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Eric is your eggie Mojo 1x12 a sealed / open back design or just sealed? Im thinking about an open/closed back eggie 1x12 for the mod 50.
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jlbaxe":ztnnkux5 said:
My Mojo is a closed back / sealed cab with no port. It's the same exact width as my Mod50 1x12 combo (same width as the head too). So, it's about 2-3 inches different in width vs the Eggie 1x12 OS USA made cab. For me, I really dig the custom one Mojo made me. Enough so, that I'm most likely going to get another one made here soon!!! Dual use here...can use w/ the Mod50 head, or with my rack rig as a stereo setup!!!
I definitely recommend Mojo cabs. I'm very pleased with the ones that I have so far. As I am very pleased with the Tourmaster series 2x12 / 4x12. I'm really not gas'ing for anything at this point speaker cab wise. Speakers...well that's a different story though! But honestly, Weber has pretty much hit the head on what I like w/ the Silver Bell, Blue Dog, and I can't wait to see how the Weber 12M w/ pre-rola compares to those SB / BD.
Eric
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I might check out Mojo for a 1x12 open closed matching cab for my mod50. That is a large 1x12 cab though. I'm thinking of using the tm412 for dry and my pair of tm 212s for wet.