Bram576
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Sounds great man. Very envious. After you buy every version and maybe part with one of them, DIBS.
New Wizard Model: Hell Razor
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Tone Monster
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What’s the compression level vs a normal Wizard?
RedB4Black
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It’s comparable to an MTL in terms of compression. Not much
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RedB4Black
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yeah. I’d say the HR is more modern and aggressive. It has a lot more gain. i can get good metal tones out of all my wizards… w800, MC2 included though. It’s really more in the voicing and level of gain that makes the HR different.
Thanks mhenson42 !
Tone Junkie
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I hate to be the odd guy out here and no offense meant but I don’t think it’s doing anything special that several other amps do in spades especially at that price point.
Glad you like it. But these days so many great amps at a reasonable price range. I guess I just don’t get the whole Wizard thing
Glad you like it. But these days so many great amps at a reasonable price range. I guess I just don’t get the whole Wizard thing
angelspade
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I've listened several times as I am interested in this amp, I have to say it sounds really good. I like how direct and present it feels...and it kind of sounds raw and polished at the same time, which probably doesn't make much sense.
Been in the room with one yet? That’s where it becomes apparent. It took 2 Wizards for me to figure that out.I hate to be the odd guy out here and no offense meant but I don’t think it’s doing anything special that several other amps do in spades especially at that price point.
Glad you like it. But these days so many great amps at a reasonable price range. I guess I just don’t get the whole Wizard thing
Its over the top.. but cant beat for the effort Rick puts in .... it takes lots of work on PTP amp... !I hate to be the odd guy out here and no offense meant but I don’t think it’s doing anything special that several other amps do in spades especially at that price point.
Glad you like it. But these days so many great amps at a reasonable price range. I guess I just don’t get the whole Wizard thing
Torgo2003
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Yeah the room experience and also the feel are really what sets Wizard apart. For recorded tones there isn't necessarily anything groundbreaking.I hate to be the odd guy out here and no offense meant but I don’t think it’s doing anything special that several other amps do in spades especially at that price point.
Glad you like it. But these days so many great amps at a reasonable price range. I guess I just don’t get the whole Wizard thing
Smash
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That is actually interesting. I have a good idea about how it will sound in the room based on this and playing all the wizards at your house. But i still need to try it and am interested in the feel. Sounds really good. Thought i would hate it
Tone Junkie
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No. A buddy has two and they sound fine. I don’t remember which models they are.
In the room. Yeah I play in a room with my amps. But in a band in a mix people can’t even tell the difference between a modeler and a real amp.
So I guess if your a aspiring bedroom guitar player
. In a band is what playing is all about and hearing yourself over the drummer. 
RedB4Black
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No. A buddy has two and they sound fine. I don’t remember which models they are.
In the room. Yeah I play in a room with my amps. But in a band in a mix people can’t even tell the difference between a modeler and a real amp.
So I guess if your a aspiring bedroom guitar player
That’s exactly right. No one in the audience can tell the difference nor do they care quite frankly.
I play for an audience of one, me! And for me, Wizards and Fryette are the best. If I was in a touring band, I’d use an Axe Fx, the the Wizards would shine quite well in that situation too.
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In a band, the guitarist can tell the difference..if you choose your amp on the crowd, why are you even on rig-talk? If we were just going off of drunk dipshits in a crowd, none of us would chase tone. Not tone that non guitarists think is good.. i mean if the bar is so low that you dont even have to raise the feet, it is such a poor argument in the context of guitarists.No. A buddy has two and they sound fine. I don’t remember which models they are.
In the room. Yeah I play in a room with my amps. But in a band in a mix people can’t even tell the difference between a modeler and a real amp.
So I guess if your a aspiring bedroom guitar player
It is like saying why write a great song when the music that is popular to the majority is simple three chord trash with lyrics a four year old could write.
VHTStark
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I would say live playing is where Wizards actually excel: they stay so clear and are so punchy. No mud and all the cut you would ever want. These aren't "bedroom shredder" amps by any stretch....No. A buddy has two and they sound fine. I don’t remember which models they are.
In the room. Yeah I play in a room with my amps. But in a band in a mix people can’t even tell the difference between a modeler and a real amp.
So I guess if your a aspiring bedroom guitar player
Tone Junkie
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To each their own. I’ve seen demos where amp makers can’t tell who’s amp is who’s. Or which is a modeler or a real amp.
I’m not downing the Wizards. I just don’t hear the 3+K difference to other high gain offerings. KT88 tubes have tons of headroom. I had a Diezel Einstein 100 that was insanely loud and clear with them.
Today there are tons of great amps. I like variety. Buy what you like. I’ll say it again. And it’s probably the YouTube audio I just don’t hear what’s so special about it. I’ve heard some clips of the Bogner Uber uberschall and that amp sounds mean thick and meaty.
Not trying to butthurt anyone. Just my opinion.
It’s almost like certain amps have cult like followings and you dare not say otherwise
I’m not downing the Wizards. I just don’t hear the 3+K difference to other high gain offerings. KT88 tubes have tons of headroom. I had a Diezel Einstein 100 that was insanely loud and clear with them.
Today there are tons of great amps. I like variety. Buy what you like. I’ll say it again. And it’s probably the YouTube audio I just don’t hear what’s so special about it. I’ve heard some clips of the Bogner Uber uberschall and that amp sounds mean thick and meaty.
Not trying to butthurt anyone. Just my opinion.
It’s almost like certain amps have cult like followings and you dare not say otherwise
RedB4Black
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To each their own. I’ve seen demos where amp makers can’t tell who’s amp is who’s. Or which is a modeler or a real amp.
I’m not downing the Wizards. I just don’t hear the 3+K difference to other high gain offerings. KT88 tubes have tons of headroom. I had a Diezel Einstein 100 that was insanely loud and clear with them.
Today there are tons of great amps. I like variety. Buy what you like. I’ll say it again. And it’s probably the YouTube audio I just don’t hear what’s so special about it. I’ve heard some clips of the Bogner Uber uberschall and that amp sounds mean thick and meaty.
Not trying to butthurt anyone. Just my opinion.
It’s almost like certain amps have cult like followings and you dare not say otherwise
I personally don't care what you or anyone else thinks (and don't take that as me trying to be a dick to you lol). I buy what I want, other people don't have to like it. No sweat off my back. Everyone doesn't have to like the same thing. There are amps I can't stand that other people love. That's why there's hundreds of different amps you can buy.
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There are plenty of people that dont like wizards. No big deal. But saying the crowd wont know the difference is just an argument that bears no weight to most of us. When people say they dont like wizards, everyone doesnt get angry and jump to the defense, but when someone says it in a stupid fucking way is when people get annoyed. I dont suck rick's dick. I dont even own a wizard anymore. But there is no denying they are special if you play one. Doesnt mean that you will/wont jive with itTo each their own. I’ve seen demos where amp makers can’t tell who’s amp is who’s. Or which is a modeler or a real amp.
I’m not downing the Wizards. I just don’t hear the 3+K difference to other high gain offerings. KT88 tubes have tons of headroom. I had a Diezel Einstein 100 that was insanely loud and clear with them.
Today there are tons of great amps. I like variety. Buy what you like. I’ll say it again. And it’s probably the YouTube audio I just don’t hear what’s so special about it. I’ve heard some clips of the Bogner Uber uberschall and that amp sounds mean thick and meaty.
Not trying to butthurt anyone. Just my opinion.
It’s almost like certain amps have cult like followings and you dare not say otherwise