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Detroit1973
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Just curious what didn't you like about the Zuul plus? I just got one recently & like it. never tried the OG Zuul mainly because i didn't want to have to buy a splitter.
Bash_Man
Well-known member
I had the OG Zuul and really liked it, but then I found the Guptech Gul (renamed to Sun) and ended up selling my Zuul.
katsumura78
Member
I only have experience with the G8 but I got one because the built in gate on the Revv amps was so good. Worked really well with any amp I tried it with. I didn’t notice it taking anything away from the tone, you can dial it in to cut off naturally too.
napalmdeath
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I've had the Decimator II for years myself. I've had no reason to look elsewhere.
overthemountain
Well-known member
Have relied on the Decimator for years- way better than the NS
rbasaria
Well-known member
It didn't respond as fast. I also didn't want to have a splitter on my board, so I bought the Zuul+ as soon as it was released. I had a few emails back and forth with Fortin, and they suggested that it seemed like I simply preferred the OGs response and let me return the + without a restock fee.
rbasaria
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Yeah, the SUN has been fantastic. No complaints. I now have one on each of my 3 boards. I've also sold my 3 Zuuls and Roaches. The GupTech is a lot cheaper, too. I paid $110 for them during BF sales.
Mr. Willy
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I used to hate noise gates. I’ve had the MXR Smart Gate (meh)) and the Boss NS -2 (major tone suck). I have the TC Sentry, and it’s pretty awesome. No tone suck, and a lot of tweak ability to fine tune what you need. I can’t see how there’s a better noise gate. I play mostly hard rock and use my volume knob a lot. This noise gate works with that.
romanianreaper
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I personally hated that pedal but I know everyone had different needs, etc. and might work out perfectly for you.I just ordered a sentry.
I got a Revv G8 and works great for me. I'm not even using all of the ins and outs and have it primarily to control my input thru boosts, etc. Great pedal!
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cragginshred
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The key with the Dec II G string is use the 4 cable method to rout it. It works amazingly well. The Boss NS2 is a basic np frills one that works also
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harddriver
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I also have a Revv G8 and I have no complaints about mine. Definitely a step up from an ISP Decimater II and NS2 for me. The gating works well and also allows held notes to ring through without getting cutoff and the tone suck is minimal in my application.
I only use the basic in and out as you do and it works extremely well. I am not doing the 4 cable method but people seem to recommend it.
ChuggNorris
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If you need a gate you should use a better signal path or less gain, better electronics... etc etc..
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Classic
Active member
I’ve recently gotten into noise gates. I hated them before and still hate them now. I have Neewar noise gate up front, after a drive pedal and currently using a Free The Tone IG-N1 in the fx loop. I’ve also got the Fortin Zulu+ which was wired with the key and thru signal chain.
Any gate by itself in the loop engaged for gain is fine, but I play a lot of clean; too and the gate just kills it, even with the key on the Zulu +. I end up disengaging the gate at times just to get my sound and note trails back. The FTT noise gate has midi control and since I have a midi controlled board, it makes sense.
Any gate by itself in the loop engaged for gain is fine, but I play a lot of clean; too and the gate just kills it, even with the key on the Zulu +. I end up disengaging the gate at times just to get my sound and note trails back. The FTT noise gate has midi control and since I have a midi controlled board, it makes sense.
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Detroit1973
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i play a lot of Cleans too & never have this issue. Is it possible your settings are too high? is it possible it's connected wrong?
diezelduder
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g rack and i've sold it 17 times but it's still what i like the best, some will say it does xyz to the high end or something else, but i like it
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Classic
Active member
Anything is possible. I have the gate set around 11 o’clock, hold was 10:30 and release 2:30, but bumped the hold to help.
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Jmetz
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Hello , I used to own 2 of the decimators about 7 years ago and had one going to fx loop and one to input , then I linked them together using an aux 3.5 cable . I used to play heavier music back then , and regret selling them , but it’s been so long since I used them that I can’t remember if these actually got rid of the hum behind the tone or just when the guitar wasn’t playing ? I can’t remember , I want to say it actually did get rid of the hiss while using higher gain settings , but figured I’d score the forums first before spending any dineros , thanks in advance for anyone who knows .
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Jmetz
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By the way I record mostly , and wondering if I shoulda kept my decimators especially for sweeping leads ! I do notice using a single noise gate doesn’t get rid of the slight rfe signals behind the music , but just cuts the sound of everything when set to a certain threshold without actually removing the extra noise .
Smash
Hack
I just ordered a decimator gstring x for this reason. I have always had a love/hate relationship with gates. Generally, i dont need one (even boosting) but for recording, it can be annoying not using one.
The problem with the zuul or any gate really is that hum/fizzle at the end when it gates. The way i see it, a gate in front gives you the staccato djent thing at lower setting. The gate in the loop gives you the total silence when playing.
I used to use a zuul upfront and one in loop(with key obviously) The zuul in the loop was set low as fuck. All it did was make rig silent. At that setting, it didn't fuck with your notes too much. This is the setting and placement I would recommend for rock guys.
The second gate, i also keyed and put right before my volume pedal (which was last pedal before amp) This is the secret of getting rolled back cleans with a gate. The key is based off my guitar signal, which is always full. The volume pedal was set to "clean" as the min setting(rather than off) so to get a rolled back clean, i just popped it to bottom; and the zuul still gets full signal because guitar volume is maxed.
But the gate in front of amp has a lot more actual gate ability. The one in loop is not as effective for gating but super effective for noise reduction.
Long story short, i ordered the decimator to give it a try, since i just want to quiet the hiss, including microphonics while playing. The other problem i had with gates is the silence between notes makes the bleed through microphonocs even more obnoxious.
If I want to hard gate, i will buy something for in front in addition.
Soundstorm
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Decimator II G String in 4 cable method. Works perfectly, no tone loss (actually sounds a little better with the pedal engaged).