NPD! VFE Standout. holy crap boost.

[psychodave]

I took the plung and ordered one. lol

 

[stephen sawall]

Only issue I had with it was the HPF/LPF was sensitive and difficult to recreate settings. But close enough.
I don't know if it was the chip but it has a inherit bright sound. It was the same with whatever amp I used.
It can get super tight. Only thing I have seen get tighter was the Precision Drive with the Attack turned up.

 

[braintheory]

Only issue I had with it was the HPF/LPF was sensitive and difficult to recreate settings. But close enough.
I don't know if it was the chip but it has a inherit bright sound. It was the same with whatever amp I used.
It can get super tight. Only thing I have seen get tighter was the Precision Drive with the Attack turned up.

I agree about its inherent brightness. That’s maybe partly why I don’t use mine as often, but I found the Standout to be tighter and have more attack when I compared it to the precision drive (even with its attack all the way up) and the precision drive sounded to me more nasally, smaller and almost like a toy, so I sold it fast

 

[mchn13]

I loved it with the recto module at home, but with the evh, it was too much. I still like the red channel un boosted for broots stuff better. just smoother and more natural. the standout gets wicked effin tight, and very modern. I think I'm just stuck in my ways.... ill try to get it and a few others I'm not using on the classifieds soon.

 

[psychodave]

I only ordered it only because I get 14 days to return it. Haha

 

[stephen sawall]

Only issue I had with it was the HPF/LPF was sensitive and difficult to recreate settings. But close enough.
I don't know if it was the chip but it has a inherit bright sound. It was the same with whatever amp I used.
It can get super tight. Only thing I have seen get tighter was the Precision Drive with the Attack turned up.

I agree about its inherent brightness. That’s maybe partly why I don’t use mine as often, but I found the Standout to be tighter and have more attack when I compared it to the precision drive (even with its attack all the way up) and the precision drive sounded to me more nasally, smaller and almost like a toy, so I sold it fast

I think your right. It could get tighter. The voice of the PD was not for me.
I have returned to using a Tube Screamer and RAT. They just sound right to me.

 

[psychodave]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

 

[DeathbyButterslax]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

Just curious, but before you gave up on it did you turn down the internal trim pot? I found that makes a huge difference

 

[psychodave]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

Just curious, but before you gave up on it did you turn down the internal trim pot? I found that makes a huge difference

Yes, I turned it all the way down and found that choked the sound. I ended up liking it about a 1/3 of the way up... but it still isn’t for me.

 

[mchn13]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

damn I need to try that too. I put mine up for sell, just because it doesn't work with my evh(none of mine do), but it sounds killer with my treadplate module on the randall.... gonna have to try it again.


Just curious, but before you gave up on it did you turn down the internal trim pot? I found that makes a huge difference

 

[mchn13]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

Just curious, but before you gave up on it did you turn down the internal trim pot? I found that makes a huge difference

looks like there are 2 trim pots??

 

[Metal1977]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

Just curious, but before you gave up on it did you turn down the internal trim pot? I found that makes a huge difference

looks like there are 2 trim pots??

If i remember correctly, the other trim pot is to adjust the brightness of the led.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

As standout adds almost no discernible THD the overdriven response is solely up to how hard you hit the front end. It is nothing more than a high pass filter and a low pass filter in series. An EQ pedal of sorts.

Did you set for unity gain or below?

As for the cocked wah sound, standout easily dials to ts808 or much fatter, full lows even. similar filter slopes. Pretty much any sound available as long as you use the 6db setting.

A far as i am concerned its the best front end for high gain amps available at this time, odd you disliked it so much to me.

 

[psychodave]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

As standout adds almost no discernible THD the overdriven response is solely up to how hard you hit the front end. It is nothing more than a high pass filter and a low pass filter in series. An EQ pedal of sorts.

Did you set for unity gain or below?

As for the cocked wah sound, standout easily dials to ts808 or much fatter, full lows even. similar filter slopes. Pretty much any sound available as long as you use the 6db setting.

A far as i am concerned its the best front end for high gain amps available at this time, odd you disliked it so much to me.

I didn't return it yet, give me some settings . Also, where do you have the internal trim pot at?

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

As standout adds almost no discernible THD the overdriven response is solely up to how hard you hit the front end. It is nothing more than a high pass filter and a low pass filter in series. An EQ pedal of sorts.

Did you set for unity gain or below?

As for the cocked wah sound, standout easily dials to ts808 or much fatter, full lows even. similar filter slopes. Pretty much any sound available as long as you use the 6db setting.

A far as i am concerned its the best front end for high gain amps available at this time, odd you disliked it so much to me.

I didn't return it yet, give me some settings . Also, where do you have the internal trim pot at?

Admittedly I have never touched the trimpots in my pair so Id say stock.

I only use the 6db filter setting/up.

Ok I set the blend to fully EQ, no blend/ fully clockwise.

For an 808ish eq curve

I set the HPF dial to between the 6db print mark and center of the filter switch. (Around 750k, dial a bit to taste)

The LPF I set around “9pm”/fully horizontal or pointed at the “430” label. (Around 750hz) for leads.

Sometimes I set this to the 1.2k mark for brighter rythyms.

As for output use the bypass switch to set the pedal for unity gain (same volume on/off and dial from there.) easier to discern volumes on clean channel IMO.

Now these are guideline, youll want to make small/tiny adjustment from these starting points to find the sweet spots for your rig.

Remember that even the cuts alone will change your distortion amounts some, just use the mypass to find unity, mine is about 9pm for my settings.

 

[mchn13]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

As standout adds almost no discernible THD the overdriven response is solely up to how hard you hit the front end. It is nothing more than a high pass filter and a low pass filter in series. An EQ pedal of sorts.

Did you set for unity gain or below?

As for the cocked wah sound, standout easily dials to ts808 or much fatter, full lows even. similar filter slopes. Pretty much any sound available as long as you use the 6db setting.

A far as i am concerned its the best front end for high gain amps available at this time, odd you disliked it so much to me.

I didn't return it yet, give me some settings . Also, where do you have the internal trim pot at?

Admittedly I have never touched the trimpots in my pair so Id say stock.

I only use the 6db filter setting/up.

Ok I set the blend to fully EQ, no blend/ fully clockwise.

For an 808ish eq curve

I set the HPF dial to between the 6db print mark and center of the filter switch. (Around 750k, dial a bit to taste)

The LPF I set around “9pm”/fully horizontal or pointed at the “430” label. (Around 750hz) for leads.

Sometimes I set this to the 1.2k mark for brighter rythyms.

As for output use the bypass switch to set the pedal for unity gain (same volume on/off and dial from there.) easier to discern volumes on clean channel IMO.

Now these are guideline, youll want to make small/tiny adjustment from these starting points to find the sweet spots for your rig.

Remember that even the cuts alone will change your distortion amounts some, just use the mypass to find unity, mine is about 9pm for my settings.

I think you just saved this pedal. the matching unity is key. I just figured half on the level was unity, but it was adding gain.....

 

[psychodave]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

As standout adds almost no discernible THD the overdriven response is solely up to how hard you hit the front end. It is nothing more than a high pass filter and a low pass filter in series. An EQ pedal of sorts.

Did you set for unity gain or below?

As for the cocked wah sound, standout easily dials to ts808 or much fatter, full lows even. similar filter slopes. Pretty much any sound available as long as you use the 6db setting.

A far as i am concerned its the best front end for high gain amps available at this time, odd you disliked it so much to me.

I didn't return it yet, give me some settings . Also, where do you have the internal trim pot at?

Admittedly I have never touched the trimpots in my pair so Id say stock.

I only use the 6db filter setting/up.

Ok I set the blend to fully EQ, no blend/ fully clockwise.

For an 808ish eq curve

I set the HPF dial to between the 6db print mark and center of the filter switch. (Around 750k, dial a bit to taste)

The LPF I set around “9pm”/fully horizontal or pointed at the “430” label. (Around 750hz) for leads.

Sometimes I set this to the 1.2k mark for brighter rythyms.

As for output use the bypass switch to set the pedal for unity gain (same volume on/off and dial from there.) easier to discern volumes on clean channel IMO.

Now these are guideline, youll want to make small/tiny adjustment from these starting points to find the sweet spots for your rig.

Remember that even the cuts alone will change your distortion amounts some, just use the mypass to find unity, mine is about 9pm for my settings.

Thanks for taking the time. I’m tinkering tonight.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Got the standout last night. Played it for an hour, put it back in the box and got return authorization. I would have liked it more if it added “less” drive to the sound. It almost has that cocked wah sound. I much prefer the Timmy pedal with the bass turned down. The Timmy is more musical sounding.

As standout adds almost no discernible THD the overdriven response is solely up to how hard you hit the front end. It is nothing more than a high pass filter and a low pass filter in series. An EQ pedal of sorts.

Did you set for unity gain or below?

As for the cocked wah sound, standout easily dials to ts808 or much fatter, full lows even. similar filter slopes. Pretty much any sound available as long as you use the 6db setting.

A far as i am concerned its the best front end for high gain amps available at this time, odd you disliked it so much to me.

I didn't return it yet, give me some settings . Also, where do you have the internal trim pot at?

Admittedly I have never touched the trimpots in my pair so Id say stock.

I only use the 6db filter setting/up.

Ok I set the blend to fully EQ, no blend/ fully clockwise.

For an 808ish eq curve

I set the HPF dial to between the 6db print mark and center of the filter switch. (Around 750k, dial a bit to taste)

The LPF I set around “9pm”/fully horizontal or pointed at the “430” label. (Around 750hz) for leads.

Sometimes I set this to the 1.2k mark for brighter rythyms.

As for output use the bypass switch to set the pedal for unity gain (same volume on/off and dial from there.) easier to discern volumes on clean channel IMO.

Now these are guideline, youll want to make small/tiny adjustment from these starting points to find the sweet spots for your rig.

Remember that even the cuts alone will change your distortion amounts some, just use the mypass to find unity, mine is about 9pm for my settings.

I think you just saved this pedal. the matching unity is key. I just figured half on the level was unity, but it was adding gain.....

The pedal has a HUGE ouput available. Easy to boost amp into surplus distortion and add noise if set too high. A boost is ok but noon Is far more than Ive ever used. Typically between 9-10 o clock.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

For tight rhythm these guys and the Savage drive are the best boosts you can get. Did you get one with the charge pump? I’m considering one to see if it stays cleaner at higher boost levels

I wouldn’t say cleaner really, I would say headroom, BUT the charge pump is about 20 when fed 9, the non charge pump can take 18. 2v is negligible. I prefer 18 for all situations unless I want dynamic compression from the pedal. Then 12 mostly, occasionally 9.

Now to play devils advocate I wish I had a charge pump version to feed it 12 volts which is 27 or so to see what that is like, might need a third one.

 

[psychodave]

Ok, I hate to admit it, but I didn’t realize the HPF was on the left and LPF was I the right. I was just looking at the curve diagram and applying it to how all EQ’s have lows on the left and highs on the right. Needless to say, the pedal sounds a lot better now. A lot!

I’m still curious how that inside trim pot affects things.