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"Abandon hope all ye who enter here..."

As your threads will be deleted, lol. Maybe delete this section all together and focus only on gear talk.
 
Question for you guys. Do you have freedom of speech if you walk into my house?

hypothetically speaking, you come into my house and start running your mouth on a racist rant. I say hey man that's not allowed here, you continue on, so I politely ask you to leave, you still continue so I toss you the fuck out.

Thoughts?
When you have a forum that has an open discussion section, with the subheading "abandon hope all ye who enter here...", that tells me it's a place to discuss, and if you're feeling get hurt, too bad. If you're not going to live up to that, then don't have it. Also, if the discussion is for liberal minded folks only, state as much... don't be hypocritical about it. Thoughts?
 
When you have a forum that has an open discussion section, with the subheading "abandon hope all ye who enter here...", that tells me it's a place to discuss, and if you're feeling get hurt, too bad. If you're not going to live up to that, then don't have it. Also, if the discussion is for liberal minded folks only, state as much... don't be hypocritical about it. Thoughts?
Told you those comments were coming.
 
Ok got your thoughts, thanks for that. But before we move on can you answer my question:

Do you have freedom of speech if you walk into my house?
This isn't your house. It's an internet forum made up of many members from all walks of life with all types of opinions.
 
Can I go to church, and say whatever I want? They are made up of many members from all walks of life with all types opinions.
Have you yet noticed that you are compelled to voice your OPINION on this DISCUSSION forum? To ask questions and give answers? You should thank the 1st Amendment and your rights to free speech. Imagine if every time you tried to post here, it vanished... that your Facebook account was deleted because someone in silicon valley didn't like what you had to say... perhaps your bank refused to work with you anymore and no other bank liked your opinion because you said something that was wrong-think or 'offensive' online. If that doesn't sink in, I'm not sure what will.
 
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The 1st offers 0 protection here, or on FB, or my bank. You're a fucking idiot for misinterpreting the 1st amendment. :ROFLMAO:
You're a fucking idiot for not even understanding what I'm saying, even after having explained it so that a retarded goat could understand.
 

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What I find amazing is you feel entitled to freedom of speech protection, where you have NONE.

I'm not connecting "Freedom of Speech" to Q, I'm connecting YOU to Q, because you sound just like a fucking Qtard.

I'n my eyes the constitution is damn near perfect.. Now take off the fucking Q goggles, and read the 1st amendment until you fully understand where, and what entity it protects your speech from.
I sound like a Qtard standing up for freedom of speech (including sites that WELCOME dialogue, but then censors what they don't like). Better than a CUNTZ willingly taking the jab while blowing Gates.
 
I sound like a Qtard standing up for freedom of speech (including sites that WELCOME dialogue, but then censors what they don't like). Better than a CUNTZ willingly taking the jab while blowing Gates.
You aren't standing up for freedom of speech as it is written in law. You are standing up for your personal ideals and belief system. Until you understand that and can demonstrate that you can separate the two in a discussion, you are going to have push back.
 
Question for you guys. Do you have freedom of speech if you walk into my house?

hypothetically speaking, you come into my house and start running your mouth on a racist rant. I say hey man that's not allowed here, you continue on, so I politely ask you to leave, you still continue so I toss you the fuck out.

Thoughts?
In your hypothetical situation, I would still have freedom of speech to say those racist rants, even in your house. You would have the ability to evict me from your private property. If I refused to leave, then it becomes an entirely new situation (in some states not as much so). My freedom of speech would still not be revoked the moment you decided to evict me from your house, or even after you "tossed me the fuck out" or called the police and I was arrested. My ability to lawfully remain on your property would be the only thing revoked.
 
You aren't standing up for freedom of speech as it is written in law. You are standing up for your personal ideals and belief system. Until you understand that and can demonstrate that you can separate the two in a discussion, you are going to have push back.
Since when is a person expressing his ideals and belief systems NOT freedom of speech. What speech is it limited to? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
 
Since when is a person expressing his ideals and belief systems NOT freedom of speech. What speech is it limited to? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
2 things:

1) Can you really not read? Expressing your belief about what free speech is instead of what it actually is sums up the issue. I'm not trying to prevent you from discussing it. I am telling you that you are conflating the two.

2) The keys words in the first amendment that you repeatedly overlook are "to petition the government". You are conflating defamation law and the first amendment repeatedly. Learn the difference.
 
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2 things:

1) Can you really not read? Expressing your belief about what free speech is instead of what it actually is is the problem you have. I'm not tryi f to prevent you.from discussing it. I am telling you that you are conflating the two.

2) The keys words in the first amendment that you repeatedly overlook are "to petition the government". You are conflating defamation law and the first amendment repeatedly. Learn the difference.
Explain to me what free speech is, then. As for the first amendment, the words are AND to petition the gov't for a redress of grievances. That is added AFTER "freedom of speech." It is added after a semi-colon and not as one continuous sentence to suggest that freedom of speech is ONLY available if you want to bitch to the government. How about you read and learn sentence structure.
 
2 things:

1) Can you really not read? Expressing your belief about what free speech is instead of what it actually is is the problem you have. I'm not tryi f to prevent you.from discussing it. I am telling you that you are conflating the two.

2) The keys words in the first amendment that you repeatedly overlook are "to petition the government". You are conflating defamation law and the first amendment repeatedly. Learn the difference.

Here's a real life lesson in free speech:

You're a fucking intellectually dishonest moron.

See how that works?
 
Qtard really triggers you, why? :ROFLMAO:

The Qtard version is thinking Fredom of speech is your right, all encompassing everywhere.

The constitutions version simplified so a mental midget such as yourself can understand: The government may not jail, fine, or impose civil liability on people or organizations based on what they say or write, except in exceptional circumstances.

Pay special attention to the word GOVERNMENT.
Facebook, Twitter, Walmart, the titty bar, your neighbors house, church, and Rig-talk is NOT the god damn GOVERNMENT.
What are you not understanding? Only the gov't can jail, fine or impose civil liability. That has nothing to do with one's freedom of speech in a titty bar, or your instance, a gay bathhouse. That freedom exists anyplace (in USA and more or less Canada), whereas others have the 'freedom' to sue, kick you out of their establishment, etc., which is a different right than that of speech.
 
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