OKAY CHUGG….IT’S THUNDERDOME TIME!

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Nashville Riff Co said:
I have no idea what that is…just looks like a giant bottle of piss with a miller logo photoshopped lol
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"I don't drink" says TN man. Meanwhile in a remote cabin outside Nashville....

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DanTravis62 said:
I don't care about the shidd pant tone, and I do care about @stratjacket drum sound tho - that shit sounds really nice, especially the cymbals
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Thanks Dan, I appreciate that. I spent a good bit of time on it and the bass, more than the guitars and everything else combined. Happy to give a more detailed rundown over PM if you'd like, but basically this should explain everything:
  • It's Superior Drummer 3
    • The Bob Rock sound pack. I played around with various snares until I found one I liked and I adjusted some of the effects that was already on them inside SD3 mixing console a little, but not very much.
  • I have a shitload of midi packs so pulled from various packs for intro, verse, chorus, etc...and then edited the midi a bit to match the kick pattern and fills I wanted
  • I sent all the drum parts out as separate tracks (kick, cymbals, snare, toms, etc...) from SD3 to Pro Tools.
  • Then I recorded the bass through my AxeFx playing as close to following along with the kick drum as I could
  • I spent time with the bass and kick on an EQ curve to carve off space for each
  • Then I used the kick to key the bass to knock a few dB off the bass each kick. I just learned how to do this and it made a huge difference. It really let the kick come through where it was hard to hear before. This helped the overall drum sound.
  • I used Isotope Neutron on each drum and bass part, it was the only insert I used, nothing else. Did all the tweaking in Neutron.
  • After that, it was just mixing it together, creating space for each part.
  • I have the cymbals panned to the left about midway as I had nothing else panned there. You can hear them on the right side because there are Ambient and Dry Drum mics in SD3, they are more stereo but lower in the mix but enough to hear in both speakers
Hope that helps.
 
stratjacket said:
Thanks Dan, I appreciate that. I spent a good bit of time on it and the bass, more than the guitars and everything else combined. Happy to give a more detailed rundown over PM if you'd like, but basically this should explain everything:
  • It's Superior Drummer 3
    • The Bob Rock sound pack. I played around with various snares until I found one I liked and I adjusted some of the effects that was already on them inside SD3 mixing console a little, but not very much.
  • I have a shitload of midi packs so pulled from various packs for intro, verse, chorus, etc...and then edited the midi a bit to match the kick pattern and fills I wanted
  • I sent all the drum parts out as separate tracks (kick, cymbals, snare, toms, etc...) from SD3 to Pro Tools.
  • Then I recorded the bass through my AxeFx playing as close to following along with the kick drum as I could
  • I spent time with the bass and kick on an EQ curve to carve off space for each
  • Then I used the kick to key the bass to knock a few dB off the bass each kick. I just learned how to do this and it made a huge difference. It really let the kick come through where it was hard to hear before. This helped the overall drum sound.
  • I used Isotope Neutron on each drum and bass part, it was the only insert I used, nothing else. Did all the tweaking in Neutron.
  • After that, it was just mixing it together, creating space for each part.
  • I have the cymbals panned to the left about midway as I had nothing else panned there. You can hear them on the right side because there are Ambient and Dry Drum mics in SD3, they are more stereo but lower in the mix but enough to hear in both speakers
Hope that helps.
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Yep it does! especially about the cymbals panned left but the ambience being there in the other side, that's a very natural and realistic way to do it and I dig it. I really like that idea.

How do you like neutron? I've never tried it but I hear good things.
 
DanTravis62 said:
Yep it does! especially about the cymbals panned left but the ambience being there in the other side, that's a very natural and realistic way to do it and I dig it. I really like that idea.

How do you like neutron? I've never tried it but I hear good things.
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I really like it. It took some time to get used to it and I have so many other plugins it's always tempting to overdo it. I did try others, but then I ripped them all off and just decided to do it all in neutron and see how it comes out.This was the first time I did that.

It helps in that you can let it "learn" as it listens to the track and then it will make a good starting point. Then edit from there. I did not like that at first because I have my own way and favorite plugins to put on certain tracks, but I held back and just tried to edit inside neutron. You basically create a full channel strip on each track, it's very powerful.

Oh and last thing I did put a compressor, maximizer and things like that on the Master track to bring up the loudness. But the track and mastering part are not done yet, that's just where things are as of last night.
 
stratjacket said:
I really like it. It took some time to get used to it and I have so many other plugins it's always tempting to overdo it. I did try others, but then I ripped them all off and just decided to do it all in neutron and see how it comes out.This was the first time I did that.

It helps in that you can let it "learn" as it listens to the track and then it will make a good starting point. Then edit from there. I did not like that at first because I have my own way and favorite plugins to put on certain tracks, but I held back and just tried to edit inside neutron. You basically create a full channel strip on each track, it's very powerful.

Oh and last thing I did put a compressor, maximizer and things like that on the Master track to bring up the loudness. But the track and mastering part are not done yet, that's just where things are as of last night.
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I am debating grabbing it just for instruments, sounds, and music i'm not used to recording - it seems like it would be an awesome tool just for that, even for veteran/experienced peeps.

I did a similar "downsizing" in that I basically use scheps omni strip for almost everything dynamics related, nowadays.

I really like the idea of being able to use Neutron for say, mixing rap or r&b music or something that I'm really unfamiliar with, though.
 
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