OT and Old: But XBOX360 vs. PS3 Which to buy?

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'm just about done doing my part in the remodel at my house and my present at the end of doing all this work is a new big screen TV and a new gaming system. I can't decide which one of these gaming systems to get. I know we have some guys that are as big of game nerds as I am here, so... help me choose and tell me why.

Thanks :thumbsup:
 
I own the 360 and I do like it alot. At this time its game library is far superior to the PS3 library, I think thats the biggest plus for the 360. One downside to the 360 is that it isn't the most reliable thing out there---I know several people including myself who have had problems. Also, from what I've heard Xbox live (eveen though its like $5/month) is far superior to the PS3 online network.
 
As of right now, the 360 is the system to own IMO. The PS3 will be getting some better stuff starting next year though.
 
Megadeth7684":01683 said:
As of right now, the 360 is the system to own IMO. The PS3 will be getting some better stuff starting next year though.
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On top of this, I think its been said in numerous publications that its easier to develop for Xbox...I think this has chased some of Playstations former exclusives away. For me, Ace Combat and Devil May Cry were the reasons to even consider a PS, and they're coming to Xbox...with all the other games on the 360 and those around the bend like Halo 3, Unreal 3 and others, plus the Xbox Live front end, I think its a no-brainer here. :doh:
 
Yeah, I know what you mean. Madden '08 is running at 60 frames per second on 360, and only 30 (at best) on PS3. Makes the 360 version a totally different game, and far better.
 
I have been leaning towards the 360. I just wanted confirmation that this wasn't a boneheaded move. The guys I work with play 360 online together all the time, but my brother has PS3 and is telling me I'm nuts to even consider a 360 at this point.
 
Megadeth7684":472a6 said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. Madden '08 is running at 60 frames per second on 360, and only 30 (at best) on PS3. Makes the 360 version a totally different game, and far better.
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There's another one! :D

I read an article featuring some head of Sony America, talking about how MS hasn't made cent one on Xbox 360 hardware. I think the point he missed was MS is building goodwill...making a system the right way from the developer aspect, and supporting the consumer if they make an error on their part (I'm pretty sure their service extension is unheard of in anything) while delivering the goods. Even while it may be taking a fiscal loss on the hardware, I think MS is probably earning some longterm customers, both from the consumer and developer aspects, and Sony would do well to take notes. My $.02, and I'd probably have to give you change ;)
 
Chubtone":8bce6 said:
I have been leaning towards the 360. I just wanted confirmation that this wasn't a boneheaded move. The guys I work with play 360 online together all the time, but my brother has PS3 and is telling me I'm nuts to even consider a 360 at this point.
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I think the user base and games definately make the case for 360, plus now a bulletproof warranty for a few years. Heck, I had to ship a console to MS...they sent me the box, postage, and when it came back it came with a month free of XboxLive. I don't see Sony's BluRay, more expensive hardware, and lack of games as a convincing argument. Plus, 360 came out a year before PS3 and Sony wasn't able to one-up MS' performance.
 
Yeah the Madden thing HAS to be because of the fact that the PS3 is harder to develop for, and it hasn't been out as long. It is a more powerful system than the 360 though. That doesn't really matter though since both have great looking games. The original Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 and I thought the PS2 was a far superior system, it just had way more quality games I wanted to play.
 
I used to own a 360 and loved it, especially LIVE, but sold it as I don't really play games all that much. I get pretty bored with most games relatively quickly and the only game I play over and over is Pro Evolution Soccer.
I'm thinking of picking up a PS3 in the Autumn because of the new version coming out on that, then again, it will be multi-platform and the 360 is cheaper, plus Live, so... Then again, MGS4 and the new Gran Turismo...

As of right now, I would say probably say 360, if I had to choose, and that would only be based on the fact it has Live. In the future, who knows.
 
I'd like to see some proof that the PS3 is harder to program for than the 360. What you're forgetting is that the PS3 came out in Nov. 17, 2006 in America, where as the 360 came out in May 12th, 2005. That's over a year and a half that they've had to work with the programming code and learn how to optimize games for it.

OAS had it right in that you should look at what games you want and buy the system accordingly.
 
Random Hero":c71bb said:
I used to own a 360 and loved it, especially LIVE, but sold it as I don't really play games all that much. I get pretty bored with most games relatively quickly and the only game I play over and over is Pro Evolution Soccer.
I'm thinking of picking up a PS3 in the Autumn because of the new version coming out on that, then again, it will be multi-platform and the 360 is cheaper, plus Live, so... Then again, MGS4 and the new Gran Turismo...

As of right now, I would say probably say 360, if I had to choose, and that would only be based on the fact it has Live. In the future, who knows.
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I'll definitely be getting another PS3 in 2009 when Final Fantasy XIII comes out. So far away. :aww:
 
grooveHT":4d2e5 said:
I read an article featuring some head of Sony America, talking about how MS hasn't made cent one on Xbox 360 hardware.
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Uh, and Sony has? LOL

Pot, meet kettle!
 
I have both....the 360 has way more/better games right now. It's online is second to none in features and interface. However, i'm on my second 360 now because of crappy hardware.

I wish the PS3 would start getting more games because right now mine is just a big dust magnet. It's a solid piece of hardware that will only get better with time.

If presented a choice between buying the EXACT same game for PS3 or 360 i would choose 360. Simply because i know WAY more people with one and you would get more value playing an online games with friends. For example....i know Call of Duty 4 is coming for both.....that's going to be an awesome online game, so i would be foolish to buy it for PS3 and play by myself all the time.
 
Code001":c55a5 said:
I'd like to see some proof that the PS3 is harder to program for than the 360. What you're forgetting is that the PS3 came out in Nov. 17, 2006 in America, where as the 360 came out in May 12th, 2005. That's over a year and a half that they've had to work with the programming code and learn how to optimize games for it.
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I don't know how you're going to prove it to any of us. I have a basic knowledge of how some programming works, but I have literally zero understanding of video games.

I'm pretty sure that comes from what developers say, and it seems to show. It appears that most games that come out for both run quicker on the 360, and will have things like more full 3D backgrounds, whereas the PS3 version may use 2D.

If I remember correctly, the Playstations have been regarded as the most difficult to develop for for every generation of consoles. Sony just doesn't appear to be too concerned with making it any easier on anyone, for whatever reason.

And while the PS3 did come out later, I believe it was delayed because of manufacturing issues, so it's not like the 360 was necessarily just in developers' hands an entire year earlier.

The first PS3 games to come out were pretty comparable to the average 360 game of the time, whereas most of the original 360 games looked like they could have been on pretty much any console from the previous generation. From the looks of it, being later didn't seem to hurt them much, as the PS3 technically started off stronger.

The question is why games consistently run better on the 360 at the present time.
 
Code001":c83b7 said:
I'd like to see some proof that the PS3 is harder to program for than the 360. What you're forgetting is that the PS3 came out in Nov. 17, 2006 in America, where as the 360 came out in May 12th, 2005. That's over a year and a half that they've had to work with the programming code and learn how to optimize games for it.

OAS had it right in that you should look at what games you want and buy the system accordingly.
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I think its maybe its apples and oranges, certain developers go one way and some go the other. The Carmack says:

"But the honest truth is that Microsoft dev tools are so much better than Sony's. We expect to keep in mind the issues of bringing this up on the PlayStation 3... they're not helpful to the developers... I suspect they're not going to overwhelmingly crush the marketplace this time, which wasn't clear a year ago. A lot of people were thinking it's going to be a rerun of the last generation, and it's now looking like it might not be. I've been pulling for Microsoft, because I think they've done a better job for development support, and I think they have made somewhat smarter decisions on the platform. It's not like the PlayStation 3 is a piece of junk or anything. I was not a fan of the PlayStation 2 and the way its architecture was set up. With the PlayStation 3, it's not even that it's ugly--they just took a design decision that wasn't the best from a development standpoint."

http://kotaku.com/gaming/carmack/carmac ... 227899.php

Whatever, I had a PS One when it first came out, now I have a 360. I like the angle that MS took with this one as opposed to Sony, so I'm biased. I'd agree, buy it based on what games you like, but in addition the online front end and community...that makes the arguments about hardware dick-waving moot :D
 
Here is an unbiased view from a programmer....
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/games/archi ... peaks.html

Right now, I would not even think about a PS3. We shall see what happens in the next year or so. So far the games are a letdown. If you want Blu-ray, it's a good way to go. If no one buys it, then the end result will be most games ported over opposed to developed specifically for the PS3. It costs too much for a developer to work on 1 game system if the user base is not big enough.
 
Megadeth7684":396d4 said:
Yeah, I know what you mean. Madden '08 is running at 60 frames per second on 360, and only 30 (at best) on PS3. Makes the 360 version a totally different game, and far better.
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From what I have heard, Madden 08 was developed specifically for 360 and basically ported to the PS3, so it can't take advantage of PS3 architecture. I don't know if that's true or possible, but that's what's been said by more than a few people. I'm not a programmer, but this makes sense to me.
It's just not profitable to program specifically for the PS3 with no one buying it.
 
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