Pickup for LP with big bottom

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Anyone have ideas for a bridge pickup with big bottom end? Not interested in it being tight- would actually prefer some sag. Guitar is already bright and tight so looking to add some cushy beef to it. High gain Hard rock type tones into Marshalls. Medium to higher output preferred but I like low output pickups too so whatever will work
 
A vintage Tim Shaw Dirty Finger is the best for this I’ve played for sure. An ‘80’s Schaller Hex Neck (NOT bridge pickup) would also be amazing for this

I haven’t tried yet a low output pickup with truly huge low end. Not their general forte, but if I had to pick I’d say ‘70’s Japanese PAF copies (thicker sounding than real PAF’s) or vintage Gretsch Supertrons or TK200
 
Duncan 78 model 9K A-2 nice bid bottom but with some greasy sag to it and it's hot PAF, great harmonics, nice clarity, nice highs and grinds when you dig in

Duncan Whole Lotta Humbucker 8.78K Short rough cast A-5, a little warmer than the 78 with a bit more body, lows are nice and big but still with a bit of sag, nice highs, also grinds when you dig in.

If you still want hotter but not Duncan Custom 14K hot where the mids tend to dominate:

Duncan SH-6N 12.6k-13K Ceramic, is more balanced more PAF like with less mid emphasis than the SH-5 custom, nice perscussive lows but you know it's high output pickup.

I have not played the Jalen FW but the clip sound like what you describe: And you can't beat the price. I do have a Jalen Pinnacle and the build is on par with Seymour Duncan.
Jalen Fair Warning: Bascially a very early Duncan JB with a short rough cast A-5 which warms it up some, big bottom like a JB.

Fair Warning P/U Wound to ~15.5kΩ with mismatched coils and a short rough cast Alnico 5 mag.
 
Find it kinda crazy that long out of production and/or super expensive/hard to find pickups are always mentioned.
Maybe it's time to take of the rose colored ears and try something new :ROFLMAO:
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Find it kinda crazy that long out of production and/or super expensive/hard to find pickups are always mentioned.
Maybe it's time to take of the rose colored ears and try something new :ROFLMAO:
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I can only offer suggestions based on my own experience thus what I posted. Not rose colored at all. Most of my pickup choices land in the hot PAF world so the DF is pretty outside the box for me but damn do they sound nice for hard shit, but I would never imply it's the be all end all when there are so many modern pickups that kick ass. Hopefully someday Scott/Tonenerd will be able to start winding again because his p'ups are the shit. I'm certainly not a vintage snob and I'm not wearing tan pants.

Edit: Ok, I AM wearing tan pants. But they're not Dockers...I promise.
 
Findthetone1 said:
I can only offer suggestions based on my own experience thus what I posted. Not rose colored at all. Most of my pickup choices land in the hot PAF world so the DF is pretty outside the box for me but damn do they sound nice for hard shit, but I would never imply it's the be all end all when there are so many modern pickups that kick ass. Hopefully someday Scott/Tonenerd will be able to start winding again because his p'ups are the shit. I'm certainly not a vintage snob and I'm not wearing tan pants.

Edit: Ok, I AM wearing tan pants. But they're not Dockers...I promise.
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Apologies, was more thinking of Brain Theory.
Don't at all disagree with any of what y'all are saying, just that they're like $800-1k for a set nowadays :oops:
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
Anyone have ideas for a bridge pickup with big bottom end? Not interested in it being tight- would actually prefer some sag. Guitar is already bright and tight so looking to add some cushy beef to it. High gain Hard rock type tones into Marshalls. Medium to higher output preferred but I like low output pickups too so whatever will work
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Is this a CS shop guitar? Like an R8 or something? If so, Before you try a pickup change, try replacing the aluminum tailpiece with a good old Zinc version. That extra weight adds bottom end to the guitar. I will go to my grave on that one. Cheap to try anyway.
 
NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Find it kinda crazy that long out of production and/or super expensive/hard to find pickups are always mentioned.
Maybe it's time to take of the rose colored ears and try something new :ROFLMAO:
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I get what you’re saying, but I can assure you there are no rose color glasses or nostalgia bias since these pickups were made before I was even born lol. If anything it’s the complete opposite of me trying for well over a decade now only recent made boutique pickups from all the brands until going deep down the vintage pickup rabbit hole about 3 years ago just to realize just how much plain better and more inspiring they are. No contest for me and most of the vintage pickups I recommend here go for under $200 per pickup, some under $100 (super underrated). I specifically don’t talk as much about my favorite expensive ones since guys here don’t like hearing about that lol, but what do you want me do: cut to the chase and say what are the very best products I’ve tried period (regardless of price) or diplomatically lie and say the stuff guys recommend here is great or good enough? Personally I like to be out of the matrix with the red pill. I can send you some of these to try. I’ve done that for a few here. The only non-vintage pickups with a place for me now are Lundgren M6’s, but they wouldn’t be still top 10 for me probably with all these great vintage pickups I’ve discovered, some of which are about the same prices anyway

I’m also very precise with comparing these pickups in the same exact guitar, multiple types of guitars to be more thorough. It’s tedious, but I have to do it. In my experience these pickups most here love are just boring/sterile/uninspiring vs good vintage pickups and you don’t need to spend tons of money for many hidden gems. Yes, many are noisy since they’re unpotted, but not all are
 
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I get what you’re saying, but I can assure you there are no rose color glasses or nostalgia bias since these pickups were made before I was even born lol. If anything it’s the complete opposite of me trying for well over a decade now only recent made boutique pickups from all the brands until going deep down the vintage pickup rabbit hole about 3 years ago just to realize just how much plain better and more inspiring they are. No contest for me and most of the vintage pickups I recommend here go for under $200 per pickup, some under $100 (super underrated). I specifically don’t talk as much about my favorite expensive ones since guys here don’t like hearing about that lol, but what do you want me do: cut to the chase and say what are the very best products I’ve tried period (regardless of price) or diplomatically lie and say the stuff guys recommend here is great or good enough? Personally I like to be out of the matrix with the red pill. I can send you some of these to try. I’ve done that for a few here. The only non-vintage pickups with a place for me now are Lundgren M6’s, but they wouldn’t be still top 10 for me probably with all these great vintage pickups I’ve discovered, some of which are about the same prices anyway

I’m also very precise with comparing these pickups in the same exact guitar, multiple types of guitars to be more thorough. It’s tedious, but I have to do it. In my experience these pickups most here love are just boring/sterile/uninspiring vs good vintage pickups and you don’t need to spend tons of money for many hidden gems. Yes, many are noisy since they’re unpotted, but not all are
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Trust me in that I agree with you on those pickups all being awesome. It's more of a shame that so many are going for more than the guitars were that they came in a few years ago. Haven't personally done a lot of swapping of vintage pickups, more than just the guitar they came in, so it's def interesting to hear your experience on swapping between guitars vs mine of dealing with them in the original guitar with original pots/wiring/whatnot.
 
Bxlxaxkxe said:
Anyone have ideas for a bridge pickup with big bottom end? Not interested in it being tight- would actually prefer some sag. Guitar is already bright and tight so looking to add some cushy beef to it. High gain Hard rock type tones into Marshalls. Medium to higher output preferred but I like low output pickups too so whatever will work
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I went through a Similar issue. I use an 81 in my Les Paul that was lacking bottom end, then i added the 24v Mod & that helped a little bit. I Swapped the 81 for an 85 & that was much better. Passive pickup wise i've only tried the MCP Afwayu or Nuke. Also check out the Alnico Warpig.
 
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NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
Trust me in that I agree with you on those pickups all being awesome. It's more of a shame that so many are going for more than the guitars were that they came in a few years ago. Haven't personally done a lot of swapping of vintage pickups, more than just the guitar they came in, so it's def interesting to hear your experience on swapping between guitars vs mine of dealing with them in the original guitar with original pots/wiring/whatnot.
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That’s the crucial part IME: hearing these pickups in more regular guitars than what they came in. For examples I’ve tried in modern guitars I’ve had like Charvel’s, Marchione’s and Etherial, as some examples, all these vintage pickups including ‘50’s PAF’s, Gretsch’s, Gold Foil’s, mini-humbuckers, Hofner’s, etc. Because these pickups came in such specific types of guitars it can give us very wrong ideas of how the pickups themselves would sound in other guitars. For example, when I play my old Gretsch pickups in my guitars they sound like nasty grindy metal pickups with nothing rockabilly or twangy about them lol

Other than ‘50’s & ‘60’s Gibson & Fender pickups I’m not sure which other vintage pickups go for more than guitars go for. Otherwise I find there’s lots of hidden gems with these vintage pickups that I often recommend here, but few care about them it seems. I’ve thought about maybe doing some vintage pickup give away of some sort inspired by your’s so that others here can hear what I hear and feel
 
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