Played an Einstein 100wt today - finally!!!!

[nbarts]

Ran it for practice with a 1x12 loaded with an EVM12L BL, Mesa Dual rec half stack standing right next to it. Sounded thick, warm, with growling midrange & yes, it does cut through. Channel 2 mode 2 is like Ubershall ch2 brother, I would recommend this head as a replacement for an Ubershall.

My overall verdict - the Herbert slays it in every department. If you think you are replacing a Herbert with an Einstein you just have no clue. The only thing that Eintein can do better is sound in a bedroom, not by much, but it did sound better than the Herbert at low volumes, it's the best bedroom amp in my book as of now for sure.

 

[Duolos]

Ahhhh but it does so much more then you commented on. Glad you got to try one.

 

[nbarts]

Well, I wasn't commenting on what it can do, I was commenting on what it can't.

 

[synchu]

Einy troops unite
I wouldn't say one slays the other or vice verse - at least without a solid written disclaimer known and abbreviated as IMNHO
They both sound great, just different. And one might fit one's needs better than the other.
Point is get the 4 of 'em, cause there's no 5 (yet).

 

[Duolos]

Einy troops unite
I wouldn't say one slays the other or vice verse - at least without a solid written disclaimer known and abbreviated as IMNHO
They both sound great, just different. And one might fit one's needs better than the other.
Point is get the 4 of 'em, cause there's no 5 (yet).

What?

VH4
VH4S
Herbert
Schmidt
Einstein 50
Einstein 100
Einstein Combo
All the cabs and some other things coming which we can't talk about just yet...

 

[nbarts]

You are right, they are different, but Herbert is better.

What surprised me the most was the loose feel of the Eisntein, especially the low end. I'm gonna be using it for a hard rock band, a tiny step away from metal & for that it works really really good, but it ain't tight metal amp.

nu-metal - no problem
chaga-chaga stuff - no problem
tight technical progressive shit - not really or at least not the way I know it

clean channel was actually better sounding than I expected, but still not Herbert ch1 good
crunch was really nice, but the loose feel makes it not as versatile as Herbert CH2-, that said this mode can do really a LOT.
mode 3 - as tight as this amp gets, really nice actually

I can see how people may like this amp better than the VH4 or the Herbert, it has more of that "traditional" feel & sound.

 

[synchu]

^^Terry, that would be an overkill even for a die hard fen as me Einy 100, VH4, Herbert and a Schmidt was what I was referring to

^nbarts
Of'course your amp is better for you huh

Speaker cab and actual speakers are the key to the Einy (and any amp best sound, if you ask me) versatility, IMNHO. 4x12" Hempcones and V30 here, for tight - I mic the V30 and mix a bit of the Hemps, dial your controls, put a (treble) booster, if you like, for extreme tightening of the low end and you can get as progressive as you want

...however, whatever floats your boat. Whenever my bank account allows (which will be not be in the next 20 years I think) I will be getting the rest of the herd anyway.

Niki

 

[eddiespaghetty]

You are right, they are different, but Herbert is better.

What surprised me the most was the loose feel of the Eisntein, especially the low end. I'm gonna be using it for a hard rock band, a tiny step away from metal & for that it works really really good, but it ain't tight metal amp.

nu-metal - no problem
chaga-chaga stuff - no problem
tight technical progressive shit - not really or at least not the way I know it

clean channel was actually better sounding than I expected, but still not Herbert ch1 good
crunch was really nice, but the loose feel makes it not as versatile as Herbert CH2-, that said this mode can do really a LOT.
mode 3 - as tight as this amp gets, really nice actually

I can see how people may like this amp better than the VH4 or the Herbert, it has more of that "traditional" feel & sound.

All what you say is fairly true - you see my friend, that is exact the the reason why I play an Einstein and no Herbert!

bw

 

[phil b]

You are right, they are different, but Herbert is better.

What surprised me the most was the loose feel of the Eisntein, especially the low end. I'm gonna be using it for a hard rock band, a tiny step away from metal & for that it works really really good, but it ain't tight metal amp.

nu-metal - no problem
chaga-chaga stuff - no problem
tight technical progressive shit - not really or at least not the way I know it

clean channel was actually better sounding than I expected, but still not Herbert ch1 good
crunch was really nice, but the loose feel makes it not as versatile as Herbert CH2-, that said this mode can do really a LOT.
mode 3 - as tight as this amp gets, really nice actually

I can see how people may like this amp better than the VH4 or the Herbert, it has more of that "traditional" feel & sound.

Loose feel in the low end??? errr.... Yikes!

 

[nbarts]

Definitely nowhere as tight as Herbert.
It felt like Bogner Ubershall to me, if you've ever played one, ch2 mode 2 at least. ch1 mode 3 was tighter.

 

[scottph]

I'm gonna have to agree, and as much as I love the Eini I have right now, it doesn't come close to the Herbert, BUT it's not supposed to either....two different cups of coffee, but great, but with different flavors...
Having said that, I liked the Herbert better.

 

[RedB4Black]

Definitely nowhere as tight as Herbert.
It felt like Bogner Ubershall to me, if you've ever played one, ch2 mode 2 at least. ch1 mode 3 was tighter.

You need to try the new Twin Jet. I love that amp. Big improvement over the previous incarnations. I couldn't play my Rev. Blue without a boost to tighten it up, otherwise it was too loose. With my TJ, no boost is required.

I had an Einstein at the same time as my Herbert, while I loved the amp, I felt I could get everything I liked about the Einstein from my Herbert, so I ended up selling it. I wouldn't mind getting another one someday though.

 

[nbarts]

So I ditched the 6550s & switched to a quad of E34Ls. 6550s were good for playing a bass guitar though it, now E34Ls brought the guitar sound where it needs to be. Compared the 6550s had a huge & loose low end which were taking a lot of frequencies that should be left for the bass guitar; E34Ls tightened things up, better midrange, good crunch, improvement all over the place IMO. It's not a Herbert, but it's really good. Fits right there with drums & bass perfectly, just an astounding sound in the room. I used mainly ch2 mode 2 with gain around 8:00 & there were times it was more than needed & I wasn't even using my high output pickups, I had my Les Paul with Emeralds. As far as cleans go in a band mix I found them weak. Crunch sounds on the other hand were great!

Overall the Einstein kicks ass, left aside a few things that ridicule me, like the loop that is always on, what the hell is up with that?

 

[uwgestein]

Having said that, I liked the Herbert better.

Scott

do you have regrets?

 

[Anonymous]

Depending on your style and type of tone you like, no one Diezel will be better then the others for everyone. That is why there is the variety.

I had a VH4 and a Herbert and found them to be too much power for the venues I was playing, including the concerts, as everything is mic'd anyway, and the soundmen want a low stage volume to be able to control the overall mix. I could never turn them up to be able to use nearly half of all the power they had. With tubes, in my humble opinion, that is a waste.

My Einstein combo is plenty for me, and I am looking forward to a Schmidt as well.

We all have different ideas of what is the best for each of us. I like to run the crap out of my tubes, so the lower wattage Diezels are my personal preference.

 

[scottph]

Having said that, I liked the Herbert better.

Scott

do you have regrets?

Na, not really. Herbert is just too much for me. I love the tone it has, but I just can't play it the way I would need to play it at home. It may sound weird, but I can get the tone I like out of the Einstein at levels I can justify, which I can't with the Herbert at my new place. My old apartment was very new with thick walls and I played in the basement...at my new place the walls are much thinner cos it's an old house...

 

[uwgestein]

Aha, OK!!

 

[White_Van]

For what I do, the Einstein slays the Herbert and VH4 tonally.

 

[eddyrox]

My overall verdict - the Herbert slays it in every department. If you think you are replacing a Herbert with an Einstein you just have no clue.

I completely disagree. I've been using my 100W Einstein for all of our gigs (over the last 3 months). The differences are pretty noticable - as you observed. However IMHO, the Einstein has a more organic and appreciable mid-range. Not that the Herbert can't be dialed up for more mids. It's just that the Einstein has a Marshall-esque tonality in its voicing that is really noticable to my ear. Both fucking rock, but for my cover band gigs, the Einstein SLAYS.

 

[Rob Tahan]

My overall verdict - the Herbert slays it in every department. If you think you are replacing a Herbert with an Einstein you just have no clue.

I completely disagree. I've been using my 100W Einstein for all of our gigs (over the last 3 months). The differences are pretty noticable - as you observed. However IMHO, the Einstein has a more organic and appreciable mid-range. Not that the Herbert can't be dialed up for more mids. It's just that the Einstein has a Marshall-esque tonality in its voicing that is really noticable to my ear. Both fucking rock, but for my cover band gigs, the Einstein SLAYS.

Dude! I totally agree
I dont know why but i also think it has to do with that whole mid frequency thing. The herbert is bigger and tighter in the low end but i think the Einstein has more pleasant rounder mids.