Pole: Rule 15 of the Classifieds. Where to you stand?

[mooncobra]

We must adhere to the forum rules at all costs, at all times, no exceptions!

If someone dares to defy a mod, they must be put down like a crazed and rabid dog!! For the betterment of the entire forum! We must train these lunatics and bend or break their will!! These god damned dogs must learn!!

Viva la rigtalk!!

Crush all defiance!!

We are now entering the iron curtain era of rigtalk where any defiance will be snuffed out ruthlessly and mercilessly!!

I name myself chancellor of rigtalk!!

 

[thegame]

Just chisel all 15 rules onto stone tablets and most here will have no problem blindly following them.

 

[IIBornotIIB]

SOLD: Reading requires the ability to, well.... READ.... and comprehend. Based on a number of responses to various threads over the years, it seems the likelihood of both happening are very slim. May as well go buy a lottery ticket.

 

[JackBootedThug]

I want you guys to realize something….monkey is a great dude and he puts in more work than anyone on this forum….hours…all unpaid and with zero credit. I don’t want this to be an attack on him. He has a reason for doing what he does. Also remember when you’re dealing with over a thousand people daily on here….sometimes these rules are put in place to deal with a huge volume of traffic that is not as experienced as the core community. Hope this makes sense….

 

[mooncobra]

I want you guys to realize something….monkey is a great dude and he puts in more work than anyone on this forum….hours…all unpaid and with zero credit. I don’t want this to be an attack on him. He has a reason for doing what he does. Also remember when you’re dealing with over a thousand people daily on here….sometimes these rules are put in place to deal with a huge volume of traffic that is not as experienced as the core community. Hope this makes sense….

Viva la monkey! May he live forever!!

 

[Monkey Man]

Perhaps we could implement an archive forum like on TGP. Reach out to their team and ask what addon they use. Auto archive threads older than a few months in a subforum.

So if you wanted to see when the last of a rare item was bought or sold in order to help you decide whether to part with yours or not, a search for it will yield nothing if the transaction happened prior to the archive cutoff point. Not-ideal.

I appreciate the thought 'though brother; thank you.

You're missing the point I'm trying to make. I'd rather see no results than weed through 10 posts of something sold, no longer for sale or that someone decided to keep.

I members continue to abide by the rule it should be easy to scan through them. Prepended "Sold" or "NLFS" information isn't exactly hard-to-spot. Heck, I've scanned thousands of these pages these past 2 years and if it was a problem I'd have given up after a week.

I'm also not interested in seeing what a JCM800 sold for in 2017.

Search results are ordered by-date by-default, so why would you be required to view an ad from 2017? IOW, even if it's a search for a rare item and it therefore does appear near the top of the results list (a short list), the links are dated so it's a simple matter to look only as far back as you'd like.

Also, if you wanted to monitor the price trajectory or saleability of said item over the past few years, the info will be there unless of course the member removed the actual price info. This is why I've said it'd be preferable to leave that info intact but it's a "minor" issue so I never have nor will enforce it.

Viva la monkey! May he live forever!!

I'll take that brother.

No dictators here guys and you all know it. If you don't, you should.

Defy the mods all you like; there's never been a rule against or intolerance of it. Just don't disrespect us in the process is all we ask.

I normally edit the title and replace FS with SOLD and leave the rest alone. What's so hard about that?

Bingo.

 

[vultures]

So if you wanted to see when the last of a rare item was bought or sold in order to help you decide whether to part with yours or not, a search for it will yield nothing if the transaction happened prior to the archive cutoff point. Not-ideal.

I appreciate the thought 'though brother; thank you.

No, the search would not yield nothing. You'd search the Archives for sold prices or trends. Once archived, the threads can't be edited or changed by users so the subject name, prices and content all stay put. You don't have to worry about a user coming back later and changing the subject to "-" or "pls delete". I search more-so on The Gear Page for sold prices because they make it so easy. Might be something to consider to make things less frustrating for you and more organized for everyone.

 

[Monkey Man]

Interesting bro'; makes sense and thank you for elucidating.

Sounds good in-theory at least. I'll look into that.

Of course, rule 15 will ensure that the info is already in-place before threads hit the archive threshold.

Again, much-appreciated and thank you bro'.

 

[Monkey Man]

This raises an immediate question now that I think of it:

What happens if an ad hasn't resulted in a sale yet and it hits the threshold?

 

[napalmdeath]

I'd say trash it and figure out a way to implement a feature for users to delete their own threads. Kind of annoying searching for something and seeing the results:

Sold
NO LONGER LOOKING
No longer for sale
TRADED
SOLD
Gonna keep it
Sold!

Or clicking on the add and it says randomly in the post "No longer for sale". I'd rather have my search return a few things or nothing than a couple pages of things that might go back to 2016. If it's that much of a hassle to enforce the rule, just get rid of it. Prices fluctuate so much that even stuff that sold last year let alone 2018 isn't relevant to todays prices.

Agree 100%. What's worse is the douchebags that bump them to the top with a "sold" bump. I agree though, best thing to do is delete the fucking thing. ESPECIALLY if sold elsewhere.

 

[Smash]

Of course, both the list you created there and the "random" status information in a post have been taken care of by the rule.

General (not aimed at you) getting-it-off-my-chest blowoff:

It's quite simply asking members to provide an item name and sale status. Wow. What an inconvenience, and in a for-sale ad no less. What'll they think of next?


I used to do that every day or as soon as it lost top spot. I'd then delete the bumping post.

Once compliance got to the point where I was only having to notify 1 person a week I figured the majority of advertisers "got it".

As for "and then hard sticky it", there's no way to do this; if one of the other stickies receives a response (usually the Canadian Classifieds one), the position is lost

We must adhere to the forum rules at all costs, at all times, no exceptions!

If someone dares to defy a mod, they must be put down like a crazed and rabid dog!! For the betterment of the entire forum! We must train these lunatics and bend or break their will!! These god damned dogs must learn!!

Viva la rigtalk!!

Crush all defiance!!

We are now entering the iron curtain era of rigtalk where any defiance will be snuffed out ruthlessly and mercilessly!!

I name myself chancellor of rigtalk!!

I want you guys to realize something….monkey is a great dude and he puts in more work than anyone on this forum….hours…all unpaid and with zero credit. I don’t want this to be an attack on him. He has a reason for doing what he does. Also remember when you’re dealing with over a thousand people daily on here….sometimes these rules are put in place to deal with a huge volume of traffic that is not as experienced as the core community. Hope this makes sense….

Damned dirty Ape!

 

[Monkey Man]

Damned dirty Ape!

Now that's a compliment brother.

Bathing is a frustrating waste of time and I only ever do it for humans.

 

[Panhead5]

We must adhere to the forum rules at all costs, at all times, no exceptions!

If someone dares to defy a mod, they must be put down like a crazed and rabid dog!! For the betterment of the entire forum! We must train these lunatics and bend or break their will!! These god damned dogs must learn!!

Viva la rigtalk!!

Crush all defiance!!

We are now entering the iron curtain era of rigtalk where any defiance will be snuffed out ruthlessly and mercilessly!!

I name myself chancellor of rigtalk!!

I name you as chancellor of the Millenials . Who cares !

 

[Monkey Man]

He was being sarcastic.

At least, I hope so...

 

[skoora]

Just chisel all 15 rules onto stone tablets and most here will have no problem blindly following them.

 

[Panhead5]

I was -- but I hope he was too . I really don't think we need a poll to beat this to death .

 

[RedB4Black]

If i sell on RT just delete the price. Once I sell it, it’s no one’s business what the price was but the buyer. If I sell elsewhere, I delete everything but the title.

That being said, I don’t see any value add from the rule. Particularly if it doesn’t sell on RT. Or just move stuff to a sold forum like TGP. Or unless we have trader stats like TGP as well to link a sales thread to

 

[Smash]

Rule 15 is my favorite rule.
The quiet indignation of the violators, the polarizing arguments that develop from the enforcement, napalmdeath's willingness to fight to the death over bumping a sold thread to the top of the classifieds, mooncobra and I with our sarcastic submission and overdone fear. I just don't know if there is better entertainment to be found.

It is just good clean fun; up there with the old engage 757 threads, Larry threads, etc.

 

[Monkey Man]

Rule 15 is my favorite rule.
The quiet indignation of the violators, the polarizing arguments that develop from the enforcement, napalmdeath's willingness to fight to the death over bumping a sold thread to the top of the classifieds, mooncobra and I with our sarcastic submission and overdone fear. I just don't know if there is better entertainment to be found.

It is just good clean fun; up there with the old engage 757 threads, Larry threads, etc.

... and there I was thinking that all the work I've put in these past few years was unappreciated.

Thinking of ditching the rule, not because I think it's no-good; I like to keep a tidy house. I just don't need the snarky reminders, seasoned with barbs and insults, that a member feels very-strongly about this. Happened 2 years ago and again this week.

I'm over it. The effort isn't worth the reward.

Bugger it I'm doing it right now. Enjoy the newfangled messy look. Some will be happy and some won't, but one thing's for sure, no matter what I do I won't be able to please everyone.

Thank you to those who supported my efforts to tidy the sub-forum up; I appreciate it very-much.