Proof the Earth is round

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water finds it's level" that's just a restatement of "I can't see the curve", not some general law of water behavior.
I don't think so. It's indeed a property of water to settle to a flat plane. I can measure it with a ruler. It's a little crazy to suggest it's another way of saying "I can't see the curve" because we CAN'T see the curve. That's the point. You guys are talking about special equipment and how lasers won't work, etc. To me it sounds like rationalizations for something no one wants to admit.
 
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Money shot picture, showing that a horizontal line connecting two points on the ends of the horizon is lower than a point in the center of the horizon, indicating that the horizon is bulging up in the middle. 'cause of the earth's curvature.
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C'mon, that's hardly an accurate or controlled demonstration. Zooming in doesn't even look like the line is on the actual horizon.
 
Why would there be a blip? In uniform circular motion, acceleration is constant, unchanging. And, why would you expect to feel anything discernible?
Because as noted there is no perfect vacuum in space. There's supposedly space debris as well. No natural phenomena here on earth have constant acceleration. Not even man made.
 
Even that's not quite correct though, as there is evidence you can collect with your senses that indicates a spherical earth.
What can you sense (In a primary manner -- IE without the use of deduction or inference) that suggests we live on a spinning ball?
 
Yeah but if you were watching it from stationary position 6 feet above Earth it would be flying by at 1000 mph. That's the relevant perspective.

Oh yeah, we're also "orbiting" the center of the milky way yummy nougat center at 448,000 mph
I think you missed the point
 
I think you missed the point
No I got it. I think you're missing my point. I'm saying that sure, if you back up it doesn't look that fast, but from our perspective around 6ft off the ground, it is. A 24,000 mile earth spinning in a day is not comparable to the surface speed of a basketball spinning around in 24 hours.
 
No I got it. I think you're missing my point. I'm saying that sure, if you back up it doesn't look that fast, but from our perspective around 6ft off the ground, it is. A 24,000 mile earth spinning in a day is not comparable to the surface speed of a basketball spinning around in 24 hours.
That’s why I said to look at it from a different perspective. A perspective different than “if I can’t replicate it in my bath tub, it doesn’t exist in the universe”. Zoom out
And made a point to say that the basketball obviously isn’t moving at the same speed.

When it comes to cosmic speed, 1,000 mph is hardly noticeable
 
That’s why I said to look at it from a different perspective. A perspective different than “if I can’t replicate it in my bath tub, it doesn’t exist in the universe”. Zoom out
And made a point to say that the basketball obviously isn’t moving at the same speed.

When it comes to cosmic speed, 1,000 mph is hardly noticeable
To be clear I appreciate the suggestion, and I'm not saying perspective isn't important in helping to grasp otherwise difficult ideas.

I'm just saying that I think the relevant perspective is our perspective, not cosmic or 100's of miles away from the earth surface. For that matter, are any video footage available that shows the earth rotation? It always appears stationary, even for the brief video clips we do get.

Regarding water, I'm saying that you all are asserting that it exhibits properties that we can't easily, if at all, detect, bathtub or otherwise.
 
To be clear I appreciate the suggestion, and I'm not saying perspective isn't important in helping to grasp otherwise difficult ideas.

I'm just saying that I think the relevant perspective is our perspective, not cosmic or 100's of miles away from the earth surface. For that matter, are any video footage available that shows the earth rotation? It always appears stationary, even for the brief video clips we do get.

Regarding water, I'm saying that you all are asserting that it exhibits properties that we can't easily, if at all, detect, bathtub or otherwise.

Well obviously you would need to be far enough away from the earth to see the entire earth… to be able to see the earth spin. And again, it spins slow. A brief clip won’t show much because it takes an entire day to spin around.

When I say perspective, I am talking about you perceive your and our place in the universe. Shrink it down to a basketball and you can see how innocuous the spinning is.

But even those “brief clips” you mention do not show all of the countries at once… because the earth is round. We can see that it’s round bro.

I know you have a hard on for lasers and water, but there are other “mechanical” things that show the earth is round. GPS shows it. Radio signals show it. Telescopes show it. It’s old hat at this point
 
C'mon, that's hardly an accurate or controlled demonstration. Zooming in doesn't even look like the line is on the actual horizon.
It's showing you can observe the curvature with the naked eye like you were wanting to see.
The dot is on the middle of horizon. The line connects to 2 points at each end of the horizon.
The horizon at the 2 points on each end are lower than the horizon in the center (marked by the dot. It shows the curve.

Exaggerated depiction of picture for clarity.
Blue line is the horizon
Red dots note horizon at center and each end
Black line is straight/level line
Red line is distance b/w blue & black showing curvature.
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It's showing you can observe the curvature with the naked eye like you were wanting to see.
The dot is on the middle of horizon. The line connects to 2 points at each end of the horizon.
The horizon at the 2 points on each end are lower than the horizon in the center (marked by the dot. It shows the curve.

Exaggerated depiction of picture for clarity.
Blue line is the horizon
Red dots note horizon at center and each end
Black line is straight/level line
Red line is distance b/w blue & black showing curvature.
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Yeah, I get it. The distinction between the earth and horizon is blurry.
 
Well obviously you would need to be far enough away from the earth to see the entire earth… to be able to see the earth spin. And again, it spins slow. A brief clip won’t show much because it takes an entire day to spin around.
So do know of any clips that last an hour or more so we can see the visible land masses rotating?

Speaking of radio, Exalt Wireless has a line of site microwave link which is a straight line over water to a receiver on the other end, 150 miles away. There should be three miles of curvature but the connection is mounted at less than fifty feet on both ends. How does that work?

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-...World-Record-for-Microwave-Link-Distance.html
 
I can distinguish it easily and my eyes suck without my glasses.
I can't. Should be easily replicable with a hi-res pic on a clear day. Most people don't think you can see curvature at 35k feet anyways, but whatever.
 
It's showing you can observe the curvature with the naked eye like you were wanting to see.
How does this mean the earth is a ball? If it were round but flat and you went to 70k feet it would appear to be curved because you'd be seeing an edge.
Most people that believe the globe earth don't think you can see curvature at 35k feet
I thought you gotta be at 70k feet to see the curve?
 
I can't. Should be easily replicable with a hi-res pic on a clear day. Most people don't think you can see curvature at 35k feet anyways, but whatever.
Seems to be a mixed bag at 35k feet. On a clear day with no cloud obstruction most people can positively observe a curve between 50k & 60K feet.
 
How does this mean the earth is a ball? If it were round but flat and you went to 70k feet it would appear to be curved because you'd be seeing an edge.
It shows there is a curve. If you continued to move in 3 dimensions above the earth and observed that curvature everywhere you'd be able to composite your observations which would resemble a ball.
 
So do know of any clips that last an hour or more so we can see the visible land masses rotating?

Speaking of radio, Exalt Wireless has a line of site microwave link which is a straight line over water to a receiver on the other end, 150 miles away. There should be three miles of curvature but the connection is mounted at less than fifty feet on both ends. How does that work?

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-...World-Record-for-Microwave-Link-Distance.html
I don’t know of any hour long clips of the earth, especially from a video camera that isn’t moving. You’d have to be about a million miles away for that. Also, it would be a pretty boring video.

I also don’t know anything about exalt wireless and very little about microwave transmitting, so I can’t help ya there. Unless you know something about microwaves yourself, it would be silly to think it means the earth is flat
 
I don’t know of any hour long clips of the earth, especially from a video camera that isn’t moving. You’d have to be about a million miles away for that. Also, it would be a pretty boring video.
I'd love to see a video of a real life spinning earth ball.
I also don’t know anything about exalt wireless and very little about microwave transmitting, so I can’t help ya there. Unless you know something about microwaves yourself, it would be silly to think it means the earth is flat
The radio transmission towers are line-of-sight — that is they have to have a direct path from one to the other. The radio waves don't curve. This is similar to 5g tech.
 
I feel like I'm talking to a serial liar when trying to get to the bottom of the globe earth debate. Every conceivable obvious question has an excuse for why even though it seems flat it's not: too far to see, too big to feel, too small to detect, mirages, refractions, gravity, and so on.
 
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