ZEN Amps
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Probably been discussed before, but so has almost everything - so hit me with your experiences. Asking for a friend that is sliding into the Recto rabbit hole.
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Bxlxaxkxe
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Funny timing, just got a triple G to try out for a bit. Only had dual F’s but have had 3 of them so pretty familiar with their sound. The F’s all had a somewhat creamy rich sound to them- harmonically rich and really satisfying in the room. They never had enough bite and zing for me to be useful for recording for my tastes. The presence knob gets harsh pretty quickly so it’s this game of trying to get the bite without the harshness. I was never really able to solve the problem. This particular green Uber I got sent them packing for its ability to sound huge but also articulate and defined. It records a lot better because of that and is one of my favorite high gain amps of all time.
The triple G just came in a couple days ago. Loaded it with EL34s and it seems to have noticeably more bite in the highs, but is still fat and full. Maybe not quite as rich sounding as the F’s, but it just sounds a lot more useable for what I go for. I still think the Uber is king lol. But the triple G is a step in the right direction as far as rectos go. Surprisingly tighter than you’d think when boosted.
The triple G just came in a couple days ago. Loaded it with EL34s and it seems to have noticeably more bite in the highs, but is still fat and full. Maybe not quite as rich sounding as the F’s, but it just sounds a lot more useable for what I go for. I still think the Uber is king lol. But the triple G is a step in the right direction as far as rectos go. Surprisingly tighter than you’d think when boosted.
ZEN Amps
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Yeah ok cool, thanks man. I have a G that sounds great, but of course I'm curious. Well I wasn't really, until a Rev F was offered to me. Interstate, so I would be going in blind.
A friend has a Rev C that I tried recently, but the power tubes were too far gone - it sounded terrible. He'll never sell it anyway, but interested to hear that directly against the G once it's retubed.
A friend has a Rev C that I tried recently, but the power tubes were too far gone - it sounded terrible. He'll never sell it anyway, but interested to hear that directly against the G once it's retubed.
RaceU4her
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yeah my triple G is way tighter than i was expecting, mine has 6l6 though, i never tried el34's, i usually like what i hear in 6l6's more with rectos
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Bxlxaxkxe
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Going to switch over to 6l6 soon. I’ve preferred 6l6 with every dual I’ve played so won’t be surprised if I stick with them for the triple. Can’t complain about the el34s though
BesaMoogie
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To me, the difference between F and G is more an EQ thing. The F has its mids shifted a bit higher and is tighter in the bass department. But it retains the global feel of a Rectifier, overall fat, sluggy and bouncy. It`s like a classic Recto, but addresses some of the complaints, people generally have with them. The bigger step is from F to D and C. D and C have a different feel. They are faster tracking, even tighter, the gain structure is less fuzzy and clearer and instead of bounce you get push.
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itsgoodnow
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I, personally, never cared for the Gs (even with a boost). They were kind of tubby in the ass end and had a lot of flub. I just don't like them, even to this day. The F sounds really nice and a lot more grunty in the low-mids. The C and D sound tighter and more aggressive. Blake is right that the rectifiers can get really bright and gnarley with the presence knob quickly. Oddly, I found the rectifiers loaded with EL34 tend to have great cut and definition and not get that annoying presence thing going on. I like the F a lot.
Beyond Black
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A healthy C will haunt your dreams.
Beyond Black
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Totally agree about the EL34’s, and I much prefer those in Rectos. Makes them tighter, more pissed in the mids, and the highs more usable. And being a Recto, you’ll still have a ton of lows if needed.
I’ve got Winged C 34’s in my C and it’s
Shredneck
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Is there any update on when Mesa is reissuing the rev F?
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braintheory
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Yeah didn’t like as much 6L6’s in my Recto’s, but vintage US 5881’s can be very good. My fav’s are pre-WC 34’s and RFT 34’sTotally agree about the EL34’s, and I much prefer those in Rectos. Makes them tighter, more pissed in the mids, and the highs more usable. And being a Recto, you’ll still have a ton of lows if needed.
I’ve got Winged C 34’s in my C and it’s
RaceU4her
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maybe ill try EL34's in mine, every comparison ive heard though they seem to kind of "de-recto" the things i like about rectos out
stephen sawall
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I prefer the G. I played on them all.
LPMojoGL
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Gs could be had for $1g or less all day until Covid. Parallel effects loop. Probably the one you saw when you were seeing one live, if a 2 channel.
Rev F has a serial loop, and that Mark III(?) tranny, sounds a bit more juicy. The one I had was the tighest Recto I've ever played, and the only one I ever miss. Never had a G, though. Just Mulitwatts and the F. The prices are so stupid on them now, can't see myself grabbing one again. Hated EL34s in the Recto. Took away that big wallop that was the amp, imo.
Rev F has a serial loop, and that Mark III(?) tranny, sounds a bit more juicy. The one I had was the tighest Recto I've ever played, and the only one I ever miss. Never had a G, though. Just Mulitwatts and the F. The prices are so stupid on them now, can't see myself grabbing one again. Hated EL34s in the Recto. Took away that big wallop that was the amp, imo.
Metal1977
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I had good results by trying to use what the company had in the amp tweaking it, on the bench.
Beijing square getter C8 in the preamp & Mesa 6L6 STR-420 in older rectos is pretty much how they were supposed to sound.
Beijing square getter C8 in the preamp & Mesa 6L6 STR-420 in older rectos is pretty much how they were supposed to sound.
ZEN Amps
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Good, you've just saved me some cash. A haunted dream is a nightmare in my book.
vultures
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G's are pretty sweet. I've had a few that sounded great, much better than the regular 3 channel Rectifiers. I've only had experience with one Rev F and I'm not sure if it was a lemon or not, sounded weaker, flubbier and not nearly as tight as my main Rev G at the time. Pretty big bummer, but it has permanently turned me off from the whole Rev C/D/E/F thing. AFAIK Mike B can mod a G to any revision you want, I wonder if he can somehow make it switchable?
Metal1977
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Something was definitely wrong with the Rev F. It’s not a night and day difference between both. But the F is not supposed to be weaker or flubbier than a G.
7704A
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What about haunting mids?
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Racerxrated
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I've had 2 Rev G Duals, 2 Rev G Triples and 2 Rev F Triples. Oh, and 1 Rev C which easily and without question, rules them all. No contest.
But, back to the F/G. The G duals, both small logo early versions were a tubby bloated mess that you all can have. No thanks. Gladly returned those to GC. The 2 G Triples, are much much better with less bloat, and boosted sounded great. One in particular was special. The first F Triple, was WAY more rich/3D/Harmonic laden than either G Triple, and was tighter by a good margin but still had that loose 'wall of sound' thing if you wanted it. Just an all around better tone than the G Triples. The 2nd F Triple was even better than the first one; it was so good my C+ Coliseum tone was not heads/tails above the F in richness/3D....they were about equal. That was very surprising. I ended up doing a few of the Rev C mods to it, which improved the red channel a ton. The Orange Modern stayed about the same. But that particular F Triple was special, for sure.
I found the Fs were easily a far better overall tone, than any of the Gs and a good step up from the Gs. If I'm gonna own a G though, it'll be a Triple only. Couldn't stand the Duals.
But, back to the F/G. The G duals, both small logo early versions were a tubby bloated mess that you all can have. No thanks. Gladly returned those to GC. The 2 G Triples, are much much better with less bloat, and boosted sounded great. One in particular was special. The first F Triple, was WAY more rich/3D/Harmonic laden than either G Triple, and was tighter by a good margin but still had that loose 'wall of sound' thing if you wanted it. Just an all around better tone than the G Triples. The 2nd F Triple was even better than the first one; it was so good my C+ Coliseum tone was not heads/tails above the F in richness/3D....they were about equal. That was very surprising. I ended up doing a few of the Rev C mods to it, which improved the red channel a ton. The Orange Modern stayed about the same. But that particular F Triple was special, for sure.
I found the Fs were easily a far better overall tone, than any of the Gs and a good step up from the Gs. If I'm gonna own a G though, it'll be a Triple only. Couldn't stand the Duals.