Said “fuggit” - ordered some Weber’s…

[JerEvil]

Not sure what the hell I was even looking up but stumbled across some speaker shootouts, and there were some Weber Silver Wolf tones I was really digging. Poked around a bit more and found a huge Weber shootout and loved what I was hearing.

Grabbed a Silver Wolf and Gray Wolf with heavy “Dope” and standard cone. Pretty stoked to get them in and load them into the V-Boutique 212. It currently has Redbacks in it but I’ve been looking to use that cab for speaker demos.

 

[fearhk213]

Those sound interesting. I’ve only tried their ceramic Blue Dog, which is pretty cool. That Gray Wolf sounds particularly cool.

 

[JerEvil]

Those sound interesting. I’ve only tried their ceramic Blue Dog, which is pretty cool. That Gray Wolf sounds particularly cool.

Yeah man, one of the guys at Weber recommended it as the pairing for the Silver Wolf. This is the vid that sold me



And oddly this vid of some IR’s didn’t help my wallet! Lol!

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I have that combo in my 412 and have been recommending them for a while now. 100 watt with heavy dope on all. They both sound great on their own. Together though, they put out a massive wall of sound. The Grey Wolf covers the upper-mid grind and the Silver Wolf fills in the lower-mid girth.

I put mine as Grey Wolfs on top and Silver Wolfs on the bottom. It works well in a X pattern too and is more personal preference on the configuration.

Edit: @JerEvil If you didn't already request it, Weber will do a break in for you if you ask.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Here's a good comparison video of Weber's ToneCult line against several other popular speakers. Along with Weber's demo video, this is the comparison that sold me on them.

 

[JerEvil]

I have that combo in my 412 and have been recommending them for a while now. 100 watt with heavy dope on all. They both sound great on their own. Together though, they put out a massive wall of sound. The Grey Wolf covers the upper-mid grind and the Silver Wolf fills in the lower-mid girth.

I put mine as Grey Wolfs on top and Silver Wolfs on the bottom. It works well in a X pattern too and is more personal preference on the configuration.

Edit: @JerEvil If you didn't already request it, Weber will do a break in for you if you ask.

Awesome. I’ll ask them about that.

 

[JerEvil]

Here's a good comparison video of Weber's ToneCult line against several other popular speakers. Along with Weber's demo video, this is the comparison that sold me on them.

This might be the first recording of the DV 77 that actually makes me think it could work for me. Also, again, something makes me glad I ordered the silver wolf and gray wolf! They sounded stellar here as well. Also, that damn Fane sounds excellent, too… And of course the Swamp Thang!

 

[Jay Cee]

Not sure what the hell I was even looking up but stumbled across some speaker shootouts, and there were some Weber Silver Wolf tones I was really digging. Poked around a bit more and found a huge Weber shootout and loved what I was hearing.

Grabbed a Silver Wolf and Gray Wolf with heavy “Dope” and standard cone. Pretty stoked to get them in and load them into the V-Boutique 212. It currently has Redbacks in it but I’ve been looking to use that cab for speaker demos.

No offense to whiever but it's hard to tell. I been looking for some vids with like non doom demos just straight through a 6505, Engl or Marshall with an od but i'm leaning towards Gray wolfs because i hate low mids and they have an upper mid thing going, so i guess i'll try them. I was wondering what cone, doping, wattage best fits my situation though.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

No offense to whiever but it's hard to tell. I been looking for some vids with like non doom demos just straight through a 6505, Engl or Marshall with an od but i'm leaning towards Gray wolfs because i hate low mids and they have an upper mid thing going, so i guess i'll try them. I was wondering what cone, doping, wattage best fits my situation though.

I'm a big fan of Weber speakers. I have a couple of cabs loaded with Weber's and will eventually load a few more cabs with them. Of what I have now, one is a 4x12 with Grey Wolf/Silver Wolf mix, the other is a 212/1x15 that has Grey Wolfs and a 15" Blue Dog.

If you're not a fan of lower mids stay away from the Silver Wolf. That one is lower mid heavy. Not in a bad way, but if you don't like lower mids you probably wouldn't like the Silver Wolf. It does complement the Grey wolf extremely well, but it must have a bit higher SPL. I have the Silver Wolfs on the the bottom of my mixed cab and it's a little more prominent that the Grey Wolfs.

The Grey Wolf is my favorite of their speakers and a great choice if you want upper mids. The quote in their description about familiarity and not having to relearn the amp's EQ is from me and I still feel that way. The Grey Wolf takes the core tone of the Blue Dog (sounds similar to a Celestion Blue) and blends in the best parts of the Vintage 30, Classic Lead. It has a great upper mid character without being in that frequency range that gets ear fatiguing like a V30 can be.

Since you mentioned Marshall, ENGL & a 6505 I'm assuming you'll be going for heavy crunch to high gain saturation. For options I suggest:

Power - You want the total watts of the speakers/cab to be at least as much as the amp you're using. It's best to go for 1.5-2x the watts of the cab. Basically more watts is better in that regard. There may be a very slight difference between the 15-50 watt and 75-100 watt ones, but it's minimal enough to not worry about.

Dope - Go for heavy dope. This will control the cone movement and cone cry with heavy distortion. Using distortion with speakers that have no to medium dope sounds like shit. The speakers sound like they're screaming and not in a good way. You can go pre-rola if you want a little smoother top end, but with the Grey Wolf I don't think that's necessary.

Dustcap - Do the standard british dustcap. The large dust cap; like the pre-rola dope, will smooth the high end a bit, but the Grey Wolf was designed to sound best with the standard.

This is the best video I've found that demos the tone cult line and isn't doom. It's IR's but sounds near spot on to what the Grey Wolf and Silver Wolf sound like in the room.

Hope this all helps you out.

 

[Jay Cee]

Not sure what the hell I was even looking up but stumbled across some speaker shootouts, and there were some Weber Silver Wolf tones I was really digging. Poked around a bit more and found a huge Weber shootout and loved what I was hearing.

Grabbed a Silver Wolf and Gray Wolf with heavy “Dope” and standard cone. Pretty stoked to get them in and load them into the V-Boutique 212. It currently has Redbacks in it but I’ve been looking to use that cab for speaker demos.

No offense to whiever but it's hard to tell. I been looking for some vids with like non doom demos,just straight through a 6505, Engl or Marshall with an od but i'm leaning towards Gray wolfs because i hate low mids and they have an upper mid thing going so i guess i'll try them. I was wondering what cone, doping, wattage best fits my situation though.

I'm a big fan of Weber speakers. I have a couple of cabs loaded with Weber's and will eventually load a few more cabs with them. Of what I have now, one is a 4x12 with Grey Wolf/Silver Wolf mix, the other is a 212/1x15 that has Grey Wolfs and a 15" Blue Dog.

If you're not a fan of lower mids stay away from the Silver Wolf. That one is lower mid heavy. Not in a bad way, but if you don't like lower mids you probably wouldn't like the Silver Wolf. It does complement the Grey wolf extremely well, but it must have a bit higher SPL. I have the Silver Wolfs on the the bottom of my mixed cab and it's a little more prominent that the Grey Wolfs.

The Grey Wolf is my favorite of their speakers and a great choice if you want upper mids. The quote in their description about familiarity and not having to relearn the amp's EQ is from me and I still feel that way. The Grey Wolf takes the core tone of the Blue Dog (sounds similar to a Celestion Blue) and blends in the best parts of the Vintage 30, Classic Lead. It has a great upper mid character without being in that frequency range that gets ear fatiguing like a V30 can be.

Since you mentioned Marshall, ENGL & a 6505 I'm assuming you'll be going for heavy crunch to high gain saturation. For options I suggest:

Power - You want the total watts of the speakers/cab to be at least as much as the amp you're using. It's best to go for 1.5-2x the watts of the cab. Basically more watts is better in that regard. There may be a very slight difference between the 15-50 watt and 75-100 watt ones, but it's minimal enough to not worry about.

Dope - Go for heavy dope. This will control the cone movement and cone cry with heavy distortion. Using distortion with speakers that have no to medium dope sounds like shit. The speakers sound like they're screaming and not in a good way. You can go pre-rola if you want a little smoother top end, but with the Grey Wolf I don't think that's necessary.

Dustcap - Do the standard british dustcap. The large dust cap; like the pre-rola dope, will smooth the high end a bit, but the Grey Wolf was designed to sound best with the standard.

This is the best video I've found that demos the tone cult line and isn't doom. It's IR's but sounds near spot on to what the Grey Wolf and Silver Wolf sound like in the room.

Hope this all helps you out.

Thanx man. I was told go with moderate doping. Was gonna do that with standard dust cap and go with 75 watts. Doping cuts yout high mids down but it still has a good amount with heavy dope eh? I don't play in a band or gigs if that makes much difference. Fairly loud bedroom stuff...