RaceU4her
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im listening to the new one now, definitely pretty decent.
romanianreaper
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311splawndude":h0wfnzby said:
Yeah :46 I've always liked hearing the drums with that crashing cymbal and the riffs in the background. It has this very robotic sound to it, like someone marching. I remember hearing that in my car and just being blown away.
Slipknot is one of those bands that works so well because of all of the combined parts and the weird synergy between the players. People don't realize how different each of the members are. Just as an example, Mick is this full on metal guy and then you have Sid being a DJ. Craig barely ever talks, Clown is this guy that is the core of the band and keeps the integrity in check. It just is really interesting to see how they made this work.
As crazy as it sounds, I don't think the mask wearing can be understated with how it impacts the band. I dress up for Halloween and go all out. When I was Gene Simmons or Alice Cooper, I did the whole thing and you go into character. I think those masks over the years allowed them to turn into these other people and then leave it on the stage. Alice Cooper talks about that all the time. He says when he puts on the makeup and goes on stage, he is Alice. He feels different and acts different.
errrrrl
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I liked the first Slipknot album a little but never really got into them much afterward. I do like Volbeat though. I first heard this song on the radio and kind of dug it. Not for everyone but I like their sound/production/tones and their melodies. Its like if you mashed early Misfits Danzig with early Metallica and just a dash of Johnny Cash lol...
GregM
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311splawndude":2m0oerj4 said:
Yeah, I'd like to read or watch that also. I haven't been keeping up with all the interviews lately. He had been blending a one-off modded Uber with his Oranges for years and had asked Reinhold to duplicate the first one, but Reinhold didn't remember what he had done to it and Jim didn't want the amp deconstructed. I wonder if he did end up modding another one for him.
311splawndude
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Yeah. I dig that drumming too. Like in Psychosocial? I know 'All Hope Is Gone' album is usually people's least favorite but I like it. It was my crossover/intro to Slipknot. Really dig Gematria, Sulfer, and Dead Memories.romanianreaper":2ougm8u7 said:
There is a recent interview where Corey is asked if they would ever perform without masks. I'll find it and post it soon but basically he was saying it wouldn't be the same and they would just be making things too easy. When that day comes, he said, they will call it quits before wimping out.
And yeah - there is a lot going on inside the music. I can hear it, and that is part of the draw if you ask me. That Rick Beato vid in my OP is great example of this for those that don't know. My brother makes fun of it and calls it a cacophony of hate rap/metal but I know how easy it is to dismiss Slipknot because I used to do the same thing - until I let my guard down and gave them a chance. You then realize that the underlying message is usually positive.
crankyrayhanky":2ougm8u7 said:
That's kind of scary because I'm really looking forward to the new KSE and Korn but afraid the bar has been put too high up and it will be hard to live up to the past - although I really do like 'Disarm the Decent' by KSE - been listening to it again non stop in the truck for like a week straight
GregM
Member
I preordered the KSE album autographed a few weeks ago and hope to have it Friday. I'm sure the guitar tones will be kick ass as always, not sure what to expect with the songs themselves. I thought the first single was just ok.
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ClintN667
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I've seen Slipknot before but think maybe at an ozzfest?? I dunno... As far as Behemoth I've only casually listened to them here and there but I would absolutely love to see them live. You know when you arent in to a band but once you see them live it changes your whole opinion? I completely think that Behemoth would be one of those bands for me judging by their live concert vids on youtube. This to me is what Ghost should have been based on their hype.
skullfxr
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I could never get into killswitch. Always Lamb of God and Shadows Fall at that time. Then Unearth and Mastodon, etc.
Funny thing is that my K-tre was owned by the original Underoath guitarist who left the band in 2003, they were good then but went to shit right after. He bought the K-tre after touring with Shadows Fall and liking it.
Funny thing is that my K-tre was owned by the original Underoath guitarist who left the band in 2003, they were good then but went to shit right after. He bought the K-tre after touring with Shadows Fall and liking it.
311splawndude
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^ That's a cool story on your Tre.
Here are some recent Slipknot quotes. By recent I mean mostly in the last month. FWIW. I'm NOT going to quote all the sources but I got then all from Ultimate Guitar, which has a clearing house of reposted interviews and snippits.
Corey - when asked if they would ever perform without masks:
"We are all in our 40's now and we still very much have a love/hate relationship with what we do but every-time we step on stage, we're absolutely prepared to give it everything we've got. So, for me personally, when that feeling stops, when we start trying to cut corners and try to make things easier, just so we can 'get on with it,' that's when it's gonna be time to call it a day."
Jim Root - on making the new album:
"One of the craziest things about this band is, we can not speak to each other for a couple of years, each working on whatever we're working on, and then we come together and focus on something, and it'll fall together really quickly. "Even if it's just something like playing certain songs live, we're all very passionate about what we do, we don't want to go out and embarrass ourselves, although sometimes we do! It's that drive to be the best that you can possibly be, we just are that way."
"Early on in this process, when I was going out to LA and working with Jay [Weinberg, drums], putting real drums on the demos I had written, I was driving home and talking to Clown while listening to some of the demos. And I was like, 'I don't know what we have here. I don't think we have it.' At the time we had seven or eight arrangements demoed, and I thought that maybe one was good enough to be on the record. And Clown was, like, 'No, dude, you don't understand. What we have here is great, and it's going to be great.' He was that affirming entity who was making me not want to throw my hands up and just start over. And he was right because most of those arrangements made the record.”
Corey - on how the money is split
"You do the work, you get paid. That's straight-up it. We split merch equally. We split live equally. We do everything equally. And if we're all working toward the same thing, then it just all makes sense. We're always taking care of each other.
Even though we're older now, our reasons for making music and continuing to do this are still the same. It's one of those things that, if our reasoning for doing this had changed, the band probably wouldn't have lasted as long as it did. But - and obviously I can't speak for everybody in the band - I know the OGs that are here are all still trying to just make the best music that we can. So we take care of each other."
Jim Root - on how they pick the tour set list:
"It's tough. People want to hear the new stuff and we're lucky in that way. We can sneak new songs in, probably not as many as the last album cycle. People still want to hear 'Wait and Bleed,' 'Surfacing,' 'Eyeless,' 'The Heretic Anthem' and the other staples. It's impossible to get it all in 90 minutes. "I think we'll have to come around more often. Maybe we'll do one setlist for one time around the planet and another for the next time."
Corey - on quitting smoking
"It's crazy. I'm getting a lot of my range back. I used to have a really high range. But over time, just touring as much as we did, it slowly eroded the top half, and then smoking and drinking didn't help.
Even though I quit drinking, continuing to smoke the way I did fucked it all up. It destroyed my lung capacity. But I've gone about five years without smoking now, and you can definitely feel the difference. I love it. I get pissed now because I'm, like, 'Fuck, I wish I'd done this 10 years ago.' Like, what's it gonna sound like in five more years? Honestly, it's one of the things that keeps me from even touching cigarettes anymore.
I listen to my voice and, Jesus Christ, my recovery time is half of what it was before. I can consistently sing longer and harder than I could, even when I was younger. It's definitely kept the tonality and the strength in my voice. So I keep telling singers, 'Dude, do yourself a fucking favor. Get rid of that shit because the difference is fucking night and day.'"
Clown - on how songs make the album
"There's another 15 songs that didn't make the cut - there's at least seven or eight songs that are recorded, with vocals, that did not make this album. There's so much material, but all that material whittled this down to its anomaly, and to its presentation. Usually you take your collection of records, and you make an album. So we have a bunch of records, and we have to basically decide which ones of those records can make up a thought process known as We Are Not Your Kind."
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/search. ... order=date
Here are some recent Slipknot quotes. By recent I mean mostly in the last month. FWIW. I'm NOT going to quote all the sources but I got then all from Ultimate Guitar, which has a clearing house of reposted interviews and snippits.
Corey - when asked if they would ever perform without masks:
"We are all in our 40's now and we still very much have a love/hate relationship with what we do but every-time we step on stage, we're absolutely prepared to give it everything we've got. So, for me personally, when that feeling stops, when we start trying to cut corners and try to make things easier, just so we can 'get on with it,' that's when it's gonna be time to call it a day."
Jim Root - on making the new album:
"One of the craziest things about this band is, we can not speak to each other for a couple of years, each working on whatever we're working on, and then we come together and focus on something, and it'll fall together really quickly. "Even if it's just something like playing certain songs live, we're all very passionate about what we do, we don't want to go out and embarrass ourselves, although sometimes we do! It's that drive to be the best that you can possibly be, we just are that way."
"Early on in this process, when I was going out to LA and working with Jay [Weinberg, drums], putting real drums on the demos I had written, I was driving home and talking to Clown while listening to some of the demos. And I was like, 'I don't know what we have here. I don't think we have it.' At the time we had seven or eight arrangements demoed, and I thought that maybe one was good enough to be on the record. And Clown was, like, 'No, dude, you don't understand. What we have here is great, and it's going to be great.' He was that affirming entity who was making me not want to throw my hands up and just start over. And he was right because most of those arrangements made the record.”
Corey - on how the money is split
"You do the work, you get paid. That's straight-up it. We split merch equally. We split live equally. We do everything equally. And if we're all working toward the same thing, then it just all makes sense. We're always taking care of each other.
Even though we're older now, our reasons for making music and continuing to do this are still the same. It's one of those things that, if our reasoning for doing this had changed, the band probably wouldn't have lasted as long as it did. But - and obviously I can't speak for everybody in the band - I know the OGs that are here are all still trying to just make the best music that we can. So we take care of each other."
Jim Root - on how they pick the tour set list:
"It's tough. People want to hear the new stuff and we're lucky in that way. We can sneak new songs in, probably not as many as the last album cycle. People still want to hear 'Wait and Bleed,' 'Surfacing,' 'Eyeless,' 'The Heretic Anthem' and the other staples. It's impossible to get it all in 90 minutes. "I think we'll have to come around more often. Maybe we'll do one setlist for one time around the planet and another for the next time."
Corey - on quitting smoking
"It's crazy. I'm getting a lot of my range back. I used to have a really high range. But over time, just touring as much as we did, it slowly eroded the top half, and then smoking and drinking didn't help.
Even though I quit drinking, continuing to smoke the way I did fucked it all up. It destroyed my lung capacity. But I've gone about five years without smoking now, and you can definitely feel the difference. I love it. I get pissed now because I'm, like, 'Fuck, I wish I'd done this 10 years ago.' Like, what's it gonna sound like in five more years? Honestly, it's one of the things that keeps me from even touching cigarettes anymore.
I listen to my voice and, Jesus Christ, my recovery time is half of what it was before. I can consistently sing longer and harder than I could, even when I was younger. It's definitely kept the tonality and the strength in my voice. So I keep telling singers, 'Dude, do yourself a fucking favor. Get rid of that shit because the difference is fucking night and day.'"
Clown - on how songs make the album
"There's another 15 songs that didn't make the cut - there's at least seven or eight songs that are recorded, with vocals, that did not make this album. There's so much material, but all that material whittled this down to its anomaly, and to its presentation. Usually you take your collection of records, and you make an album. So we have a bunch of records, and we have to basically decide which ones of those records can make up a thought process known as We Are Not Your Kind."
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Apex1Rg7X
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ClintN667":2cn69qqx said:
Exactly. I never would have listened to Behemoth but I saw them open for Lamb of God earlier this year and was like Woah!! Now I just saw them open for Slipknot and man they are legit. There have been many bands that I started checking out more because they opened a show I went to but Behemoth ranks pretty high up there.
I've heard Ghost puts on a good live show but I cant stand their music whatsoever. They look the part at least Lol
311splawndude
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^ Apex
I just realized you are from South Dakota and have a Single Rec.
Me too
(although we moved away from SD when I was 10 years old. About the time I started getting into KISS and The Beatles. And Elvis.)
I just realized you are from South Dakota and have a Single Rec.
Me too
(although we moved away from SD when I was 10 years old. About the time I started getting into KISS and The Beatles. And Elvis.)
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Apex1Rg7X
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311splawndude":1g2nfo5j said:^ Apex
I just realized you are from South Dakota and have a Single Rec.
Me too
(although we moved away from SD when I was 10 years old. About the time I started getting into KISS and The Beatles. And Elvis.)
Nice man!! where in SD did you live?
311splawndude
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Aberdeen
Here is my Rectoverb. I play/abuse it the most - more than the Splawn.
Here is my Rectoverb. I play/abuse it the most - more than the Splawn.
skullfxr
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311splawndude":3sbdfcmh said:Aberdeen
Here is my Rectoverb. I play/abuse it the most - more than the Splawn.
I have to fire up one of my Splawn big boys one of these days, I have been so happy with the SS that they have not seen much action.
311splawndude
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godgrinder":39gdtvb6 said:
I checked out 'The Satanist'. Video reminds me of 'The Negative One'. Also checked out the first part of the album you posted IIRC - Return of the Northern Moon. I really like the guitar tone and the tunes I've heard so far but I tire quickly with all growl and no signing voice. Probably why I struggle with Black Metal so much. Checking out 'Demigod' the song and will give the album a fair shake too.
Thanks man
Price
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NWAHV
311splawndude
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Set List examples.
This is what I'm going to focus on all day today. Slipknot and Behemoth setlists have not changed much so far on this tour from one show to the next. Gojira and Volbeat do seem to be changing it up a fair bit but this gives me something to focus on as I don't have time to listen to entire albums. I do appreciate all the suggestions so far.
Slipknot
People = Shit
(sic)
Get This
Unsainted
Before I Forget
Solway Firth
The Heretic Anthem
Psychosocial
The Devil in I
Prosthetics
Vermilion
Custer
Sulfur
All Out Life
Duality
Spit It Out
Surfacing
'Til We Die
Volbeat
Born to Raise Hell
(Motörhead song)
The Devil's Bleeding Crown
Lola Montez
Sad Man's Tongue
Black Rose
The Everlasting
Slaytan
Dead but Rising
A Warrior's Call / I Only Want to Be With You
Last Day Under the Sun
Pelvis on Fire
Seal the Deal
Still Counting
Sawdust in the Blood
Gojira
Toxic Garbage Island
Backbone
Stranded
Flying Whales
(Without instrumental intro)
Love
The Cell
Silvera
The Gift of Guilt
Behemoth
Wolves ov Siberia
Daimonos
Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer
Bartzabel
Conquer All
Sabbath Mater
Chant for Eschaton 2000
This is what I'm going to focus on all day today. Slipknot and Behemoth setlists have not changed much so far on this tour from one show to the next. Gojira and Volbeat do seem to be changing it up a fair bit but this gives me something to focus on as I don't have time to listen to entire albums. I do appreciate all the suggestions so far.
Slipknot
People = Shit
(sic)
Get This
Unsainted
Before I Forget
Solway Firth
The Heretic Anthem
Psychosocial
The Devil in I
Prosthetics
Vermilion
Custer
Sulfur
All Out Life
Duality
Spit It Out
Surfacing
'Til We Die
Volbeat
Born to Raise Hell
(Motörhead song)
The Devil's Bleeding Crown
Lola Montez
Sad Man's Tongue
Black Rose
The Everlasting
Slaytan
Dead but Rising
A Warrior's Call / I Only Want to Be With You
Last Day Under the Sun
Pelvis on Fire
Seal the Deal
Still Counting
Sawdust in the Blood
Gojira
Toxic Garbage Island
Backbone
Stranded
Flying Whales
(Without instrumental intro)
Love
The Cell
Silvera
The Gift of Guilt
Behemoth
Wolves ov Siberia
Daimonos
Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer
Bartzabel
Conquer All
Sabbath Mater
Chant for Eschaton 2000
GregM
Member
Solway Firth would be good live. I'd like to see AOV put back on the setlist too, but I think they were only doing that one on the first tour after Gray Chapter came out. Surprising because it's really popular and is an ass kicker live.
311splawndude
Well-known member
^ Yeah. Solway Firth is my favorite song right song right. I wish I knew more about what that song is about. A little research tells me it is a geographical area inbetween England and Scotland. With the references to 'standing on this hill' and 'dying on the front lines' and 'set your ships on fire' I have a feeling it is in regards to ancient battles in England?
Bad Ass song right there. Has an interesting verse/chorus
At first I was like:
Then I was like:
I thinking this song is really hard for Corey to do live hence why I can't find any live versions.
But yeah AOV kicks all kinds of ass
GregM":2sx7jo1a said:
Bad Ass song right there. Has an interesting verse/chorus
At first I was like:
Then I was like:
I thinking this song is really hard for Corey to do live hence why I can't find any live versions.
But yeah AOV kicks all kinds of ass
311splawndude
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Jim Root Says People Underrate Clown as Songwriter, Names New Slipknot Song That Demonstrates His Talent
"He's an amazing songwriter, and I don't think he gets a lot of credit for being such," the guitarist says.
Posted 8 hours ago
Jim Root Says People Underrate Clown as Songwriter, Names New Slipknot Song That Demonstrates His Talent
During a conversation with Kerrang Magazine, guitarist Jim Root talked about the new Slipknot album "We Are Not Your Kind," touching on the creative contributions of percussionist Shawn "Clown" Crahan.
Before we even started writing this record, Clown had been, like, 'I want to get a choir,'" Jim said while discussing the "Unsainted" track, adding:
"He was thinking in terms of a children's choir, like a Pink Floyd - 'The Wall' kind of thing, but we ended up getting a regular choir, and they took a version of the melody line from the original guitar line that started the demo song, which is a variation of the chorus riff.
"The choir did what they did, and to me, it turned out to be pretty epic. I heard someone compare it to 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' by The Rolling Stones, and I think that's a pretty ambitious comparison, but I'll certainly take it."
Focusing on "Death Because of Death," Root commented:
"This is another one from the mind of Clown. While we were tracking in the other room, he was just diving really deep into this stuff.
"'Death Because of Death' is an example of Clown's talent; he's an amazing songwriter, and I don't think he gets a lot of credit for being such, but there's a couple of songs here, that came from his brain, heart, and soul, which are probably some of the best songs on the record."
Switching to the album's fifth track, "Nero Forte," the guitarist added:
"This is also a Clown song, which is amazing. This one is going to be great live. It’s very percussive, and reminiscent of [2008's] 'Psychosocial' - but maybe an evolution of 'Psychosocial.'
"Obviously, Clown is a drummer and percussionist, but he's also a songwriter - and he always has been. Now we're able to collaborate as songwriters, and this is what we end up with.
"When Corey came in and started diving into the vocals, he came up with this extra melody in the chorus line, very late into the process. That really drew me into this song."
While discussing "What's Next," Jim said:
"I don't know how I'd describe this! That's another of the segues, that was from the mind of Clown.
"And, actually, some of these arrangements had working titles, which then changed, and we've been working on them for so long that, unless I hear it, I don't really know which is which. [Laughs]
"You get used to something being called a certain name for two years, and then it changes and you're, like, 'What song is that now?!'"
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... alent.html
"He's an amazing songwriter, and I don't think he gets a lot of credit for being such," the guitarist says.
Posted 8 hours ago
Jim Root Says People Underrate Clown as Songwriter, Names New Slipknot Song That Demonstrates His Talent
During a conversation with Kerrang Magazine, guitarist Jim Root talked about the new Slipknot album "We Are Not Your Kind," touching on the creative contributions of percussionist Shawn "Clown" Crahan.
Before we even started writing this record, Clown had been, like, 'I want to get a choir,'" Jim said while discussing the "Unsainted" track, adding:
"He was thinking in terms of a children's choir, like a Pink Floyd - 'The Wall' kind of thing, but we ended up getting a regular choir, and they took a version of the melody line from the original guitar line that started the demo song, which is a variation of the chorus riff.
"The choir did what they did, and to me, it turned out to be pretty epic. I heard someone compare it to 'You Can't Always Get What You Want' by The Rolling Stones, and I think that's a pretty ambitious comparison, but I'll certainly take it."
Focusing on "Death Because of Death," Root commented:
"This is another one from the mind of Clown. While we were tracking in the other room, he was just diving really deep into this stuff.
"'Death Because of Death' is an example of Clown's talent; he's an amazing songwriter, and I don't think he gets a lot of credit for being such, but there's a couple of songs here, that came from his brain, heart, and soul, which are probably some of the best songs on the record."
Switching to the album's fifth track, "Nero Forte," the guitarist added:
"This is also a Clown song, which is amazing. This one is going to be great live. It’s very percussive, and reminiscent of [2008's] 'Psychosocial' - but maybe an evolution of 'Psychosocial.'
"Obviously, Clown is a drummer and percussionist, but he's also a songwriter - and he always has been. Now we're able to collaborate as songwriters, and this is what we end up with.
"When Corey came in and started diving into the vocals, he came up with this extra melody in the chorus line, very late into the process. That really drew me into this song."
While discussing "What's Next," Jim said:
"I don't know how I'd describe this! That's another of the segues, that was from the mind of Clown.
"And, actually, some of these arrangements had working titles, which then changed, and we've been working on them for so long that, unless I hear it, I don't really know which is which. [Laughs]
"You get used to something being called a certain name for two years, and then it changes and you're, like, 'What song is that now?!'"
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/ge ... alent.html