So, a small "lunchbox" Diezel later this year? papa?

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I don't know where I read it, or if I indeed read it, papa's words about a possible small Diezel later this year?

Papa is it indeed what's coming next out of the Diezel factory?

I really like the fact that Peter keeps coming out with new products, makes it fresh and versatile. I'd like to see something more oriented to blues and cleans (I know the Schmidt is there, and I'm after it, but it's pretty high gain still (compared to a Fender/vox etc....) and since we have a lot of high gainers, maybe we could have another low gainer.
 
What is really needed right now is a small combo/head with no bells and whistles/ midi etc just a single ch high gain combo/head that has the exact voice from VH4 ch3...

i'd be happy as a pig in sh.. :D
 
I actually think there might be public for a low gainer.

Diezels are very well constructed amps that I think a lot of people should benefit from owning, and among those people there's the low gain crowd.

You can discuss that Diezel is a rock oriented brand, which I agree, but why not put down that wall and open up the brand to other types of players?

I'd love to have a low gain diezel that shines in the clean department and it's a great platform for fx and pedals.
 
I think the Schmidt is what you are looking for even though it doesn't have lunchbox size. However you can do low-gain stuff with all the Diezel amps perfectly with the crunch channels and by turning the gain down.

Just my two cents :)
 
I prefer to see Diezel stay the course and not follow the path of Bogner, Mesa and other lunch box marketing schemes.
 
well, Steve, remember that Diezel Co. is an enterprise, I'm sure papa could benefit from the market share that actually wants a small "lunchbox" type of amp.

it's not only hype, the market has indeed changed a bit.

Look at Olaf (duesentrieb) Little Joe amp.........it's a small compact low wattage amp that sound AMAZING. greatfor small bars and bedroom recording.
 
MourningEngine":32y4zdxg said:
I think the Schmidt is what you are looking for even though it doesn't have lunchbox size. However you can do low-gain stuff with all the Diezel amps perfectly with the crunch channels and by turning the gain down.

Just my two cents :)
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for sure, I'm gasing for a Schmidt for a LONG freaking time. As soon as I'm in europe I'm exchanging my VH4 for one.

But I'm also interested in Peter's rendition of a full on low gainer. a Marshall JTM45/Fender Bassman type of stuff..... I don't know if it's just me but I think a brilliant guy like Peter with such an awesome company can benefit from expanding the line. It's not gonna harm the "heavy music customers" or anything like that. All the contrary, it'll pull a different type of player into the brand.

just my $0.02
 
I don't fully understand the need for a specific "low-gainer" since for me (from my own experience), both the vh4 and especially the dmoll do really well there. The dmoll ch1 gives you jangly to nice purring low-gain, it's all there. I do agree, the Schmidt is special and also feels different due to class a but what else could you come up with there or between those? I think the great thing about Diezels so far has always been the versatility and doing a great job of combining clean, low-gain AND hi-gain with different twists and focus. Lots of folks seem to forget the lower gain sounds that they ALL have to offer.

Let's be honest, ultimately these discussions always seem to really be about... should they market to a below €1k crowd or not? At least for Europe prices, the new dmoll sits pretty nicely amongst the competition. Why go much below that and potentially compromise quality? If they move into heavily mass-producing cheap amps they'd be just another company on the way to becoming too big for their own good, wouldn't they?
Without trying to be a dick, I honestly think it is good if they stay premium and do their thing and don't try to cater to each and EVERY crowd at every price point. Porsche doesn't do Smart or Kia cars either and they seem to be doing fine.

I'd love to have a low gain diezel that shines in the clean department and it's a great platform for fx and pedals. ... Marshall JTM45/Fender Bassman type of stuff
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dmoll ch1. Serious! Fenderish cleans to overdrive, it's all there and pedals work fantastic! I like the vh4's ch1 and ch2 as well but dmoll ch1 is probably more what you are describing and even papa said it's his favorite low gain!
 
The local GC had a Schmidt that sat for months. It had a great clean tone warmth. The mid gain was great, the high gain was lacking, not a high gain amp. As much as one might say they love the idea, the actual buying public is not racing to get them.

The D Moll seems like a great marketing move.
 
I don't know about the 1watt, lunchbox amps. I got the Marshall 1watt stuff and still play the 100watt stuff for practice. :yes:

The D-Moll is really giving me some gas right now! :lol: :LOL:
 
MOOSEHEADS":1dho1q54 said:
I don't know about the 1watt, lunchbox amps. I got the Marshall 1watt stuff and still play the 100watt stuff for practice. :yes:
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In my own experience, the vh4 works considerably better at bedroom levels than the 5W mesa and 1W vex I tried :lol: :LOL:
Good volume pots (channel and master) and good tone from the preamps is much more important for this than anything else - despite what marketing is trying to tell you.
 
kahawe":1pgcwonh said:
In my own experience, the vh4 works considerably better at bedroom levels than the 5W mesa and 1W vex I tried :lol: :LOL:
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I have the same experience. IMHO the Diezels I had home: Einstein, VH4, and Hagen sound better at bedroom level than the 5 w mesa, the tubemeister and a ht-5. I bought 2 of these lunch boxes and they are gone already, and guess what I use to practice?
That's right, the Diezel Hagen into a 1 x 12 cab. Diezel even at bedroom level is Unbeatable!

p.s. Papa could though devise some ultimately safe dummyload box that would allow us to crank our Diezels at bedroom level without damaging the tubes.... :D
 
ProgFreak":1e8epbvl said:
p.s. Papa could though devise some ultimately safe dummyload box that would allow us to crank our Diezels at bedroom level without damaging the tubes.... :D
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Does that twonote torpedo have a headphone out and can you, despite its brandname, play more than two notes? :D
 
No attenuators please :gethim:

I have a set of 22 watt transformers here. This
should not be a lunch box amp but maybe a
Diezel for the guys who don´t need big volumes.
 
Peter Diezel":12ccdc4p said:
No attenuators please :gethim:

I have a set of 22 watt transformers here. This
should not be a lunch box amp but maybe a
Diezel for the guys who don´t need big volumes.
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This is what I mean.

I guess the word "lunchbox" has a little bit or a negative connotation in the amp world these days.

I meant a smaller chasis (yeah even smaller than schmidt), with less powerful trannies for people that dont need all that power and volume.

It is SO much comfortable carrying a smaller size/lighter amp for jams, small gigs type of situations.

Can you carry a vh4 in a car as comfortably ? Not so much.

I honestly think there's a market for that. Even the people that say their vh4's and hagen's are all they need, would jump on a smaller, less expensive diezel amp full of that magic sauce.
 
I will have to agree with Joey... It s hard to carry my Hagen to practice everytime. It's so hard to fit it in the car especially with the flight case (for the extra protection) that I am seriously thinking to either buy a power amp for my axe fx or buy a Dmoll just for band practice and keep the beast for home playing, gigs and studio.
I think Dmoll will cover it all. Low gain, high gain, clean, dirty, crunchy. It s an amazing piece of gear and lighter than its comrades.

my two cents
 
Krankenstein":1w997v3l said:
lighter than its comrades.
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Subjectively, the dmoll is definitely NOT lighter than my vh4 and while it is smaller the size difference seems not that practically relevant if you ask me...
 
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